Submitted 4 weeks ago by caseyclysm@lemmy.world to games@lemmy.world
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/593110/view/529834914570306831?l=english
SteamOS is where I hang a LOT of faith now. Just, like, generally.
Here’s hoping this is the beginning of a freer world from the personal technology standpoint.
I love my Steam Deck. I’m browsing the Fediverse on it right now. Desktop mode is a bit of that unpolished Linux experience you can get but it’s really not bad at all. I mean, I fucking love it!
That’s nice and all. But can it run Doom?
Yes?
I think this is an incredible development, and will be a big boon for PC gaming on handhelds. Those SOCs/APUs are going to get better and better…
But, can I install it on a badger?
i would like to play video games without windows computer. thank you jesus Goldman or whatever his snake is
That’s great if you don’t care about playing online games and are okay with games you buy becoming incompatible.
Said the person who did no research has no idea what they’re talking about. Steam OS has been pushing game devs and publishers to be more compatible with Linux, not less. Additionally, the only online games that really have problems with steam OS are ones that require kernel level anti-cheat, and we all should be pushing for the downfall of that. It isn’t necessary.
Linux supporting kernel level anti-cheats is an amazing feature, in my honest opinion.
And so Cod works now? Yeah, that’s not a thing. Does Paladins work? Oh, yeah crap. Was GTA V online compatibility killed? It was? Oh, damn. Does Destiny 2 work? Oh, you mean the developers threatened people with bans if they tried to play the game on Linux? Oh, oh crap. How is VR going on Linux? Not well.Oh, damn. 🤔
All the talk the last few months about SteamOS and Bazzite (plus Windows 10’s imminent death) got me to finally let up a Linux dual boot. Choosing a distro is a fairly contrary process with half the review lists being useless “tech media”, half AI buzzword word salad, and half distro stans trying to sell you on their version by pointing out flaws in the others.
I jumped in and am now on Manjaro as I use my computer primarily for gaming and media consumption. I originally planned this because of Manjaro Gaming edition, but Manjaro Gaming edition hasn’t been updated in years so looks like abandonware. Regular Manjaro it is, and add what I need as I go. I hope.
I decided to try Manjaro over PopOS due to enough anecdotal reviews about PopOS stability issues to make me second guess it. I have used Mint on old hardware in the past, and it was ok but I was concerned about gaming support and Nvidia drivers (accidentally jumped from Nvidia to Amd anyway, but that’s another story). Ubuntu has the same issue as PopOS on top of being the corporate distro. I also still have a bad taste from trying Ubuntu years ago and gaming attempts on it sucked.
I do not want to distro hop to find the promised land or just to see what the other grass is like, it’s just not something I am interested in and never have been. As bad as Windows can be, I have usually been able to ride an installation for multiple years barring external incident. I want to primarily sit down and use my computer. Reinstalls should be reserved for hardware refreshes and new builds.
If SteamOS can simplify the decision paralysis involved in making the jump to Linux, it is going to be an absolute win. As a hard core techie with decades of experience building PCs, if I had this much trouble making the switch then I expect an even worse experience for the regular Joe.
To slot machines?
deegeese@sopuli.xyz 4 weeks ago
Here’s hoping it matures enough for desktop use by the time my Win10 desktop is EOL.
4am@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
My man, have you heard of Bazzite?
kadup@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 4 weeks ago
Or literally any other distro.
Pop is probably much easier to be up and running vs. Bazzite.
Cethin@lemmy.zip 4 weeks ago
Dude, you don’t need SteamOS for a desktop. Just download a more widely used desktop distro. I use Garuda, and it’s great for starting up gaming.
SteamOS will be great for a console-like experience out of the box, which is not what you want for desktop.
LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 4 weeks ago
Sturgist@lemmy.ca 4 weeks ago
Bump for Garuda. It’s decent, as simple as any installation I’ve ever had to do, comes well configured out of the box, and has a very active forum that the Devs keep an eye on and answer questions quite quickly.
sunbytes@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
The main thing stopping me is that I only use my PC for gaming, and I know the support for drivers etc isn’t as good on Linux (though I know this is debated).
However if Linux became more centralised, with a “gaming first” distro like this, the graphics drivers would have a “main test case” to work with.
This is my theory anyway.
Old_Yharnam@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Not necessary, you can use dozens of distros where playing Steam games is pretty much plug and play
Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
What about my alternatively acquired games? I’ve tried using Mint and Steam with whatever that is that runs compatibility. Sometimes doesn’t work for them.
b34k@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
What about non steam games? Maybe I’m in the extreme minority, but my most played games are things like Microsoft Flight Sim, DCS, Star Citizen, Elite Dangerous, which not only have their own launchers etc (one of which is tied directly to MS), they also require peripherals… sometimes lots of em, that have config and/or telemetry software that is all built in windows.
BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 4 weeks ago
It’s just arch isn’t it?
dyc3@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
No, it’s based on arch. There’s a bunch of polish on top of it that makes it more stable and such
chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz 4 weeks ago
I didn’t think it’s just Arch , though. IIRC it’s also immutable.
x00z@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Yeah I don’t see any need for desktop use, except for making a Steam console under your TV.
You can use Steam with Proton on whatever distro you want.
Cethin@lemmy.zip 4 weeks ago
It’s built on top of Arch. The distro I’m using is Garuda, which is also built on Arch, and there’s a gaming version that includes everything you need to play games immediately. No one should use SteamOS probably for a desktop. They should use something like Garuda. SteamOS is for a console-like experience.
AngryRobot@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Man, Steam has a real opportunity here to make Linux desktops more palatable. Imagine a SteamOS computer that’s as easy to use as Windows for people who don’t know Linux…
Old_Yharnam@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
There are plenty of distros that have been doing that for years now
argarath@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I think that the big thing for the general public is not that Linux will now be easy to use/accessible, it currently is pretty much there with many different distros, it’s that there’s a known face behind it. In the general public Linux is just this weird thing that isn’t really attached to anything besides the super tech savvy, so they think they can’t use it because they aren’t super tech savvy. By making it steam’s Linux, they can go “oh I know steam, they do stuff really well for people like me! This is probably easy enough that I can use!”
Another thing that will help is a centralization of support. With enough people using it questions and bugs will be more common and more accessible as well as answered. Currently for you to find help for your issue you need to look for your specific distro and try to also parse if the answers for other distros would help you with your issue.
pathief@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
It’s not going to happen in this iteration of SteamOS. It remains mostly a gaming “only” distribution.
JDPoZ@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I really want to switch my main desktop to Linux, but use it for remote work too, so I have MS Teams… is there a way to reliably virtualize it?
tgxn@lemmy.tgxn.net 4 weeks ago
Teams can run as a chrome app, I use it daily.
whostosay@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Krdc
itsfoss.com/remote-desktop-tools/
jj4211@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Using it from chrome is how I use it.
Two limitations:
Case@lemmynsfw.com 4 weeks ago
I’m on W11 with my daily driver.
I don’t like it. I didn’t like it from the start.
So why?
Because W10 will hit EOL sooner than later; and I have to support that shit professionally.
Doesn’t matter that no one is testing or building applications for W11, no security patches mean any employer worth their salt will switch over to W11, despite not having the infrastructure to do it.
Admin VS IT. I’m nearly 40, and that story is older than I am.
Nexy@lemmy.sdf.org 4 weeks ago
I already jumped to linux and I abandoned adobe as a graphic designer. I feel so free now. The tool don’t make the profesional.
Nibodhika@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Don’t use SteamOS as a desktop OS, that’s not what it’s meant to. You might be used to Windows and think that a different distribution of Linux is just a different customization of the OS, but it’s almost an entirely different OS that happens to run the same binaries.
If you’re interested in getting an alternative to Windows, try some beginner friendly Linux distros on a Virtual Machine or an old laptop. I recommend Linux Mint to newcomers, but if you’re used to the desktop mode on SteamOS maybe Kubuntu. The closest you can get is Bazzite but that’s also not a desktop OS so I wouldn’t use that unless it was for a Steam Machine. The second closest (that’s also somewhat beginner friendly) is Manjaro K DE version, but being Arch based I don’t tend to recommend it to new Linux users, but of you’re dead set on getting something as close as possible to SteamOS that’s it.
agelord@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
What?
As far as I know, it’s literally just an immutable build of Arch Linux.
LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 4 weeks ago
Leax@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
Bazzite is full fledged desktop OS. Perfect for beginners
Kolanaki@yiffit.net 4 weeks ago
It originated as a desktop os…
Fizz@lemmy.nz 4 weeks ago
No this is a super out of date version that was not designed for general desktop use. It is specifically designed for the steam machine which was a failure. Value really needs to take this page down so people arent downloading a 9 year old version of linux.
repungnant_canary@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
You can quite safely jump onto any distro recommended for gaming. From me I would recommend PopOS, especially when 24.04 releases - easy install and Nvidia drivers work out of the box, and the super rare issue Linus encountered is long fixed
Katana314@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Anecdote alert: I mean, I went to Mint thinking this to be true. The first release I tried didn’t even support my (years old) WiFi drivers, and then the second couldn’t run levels in Hitman. (Bazzite did, however, so distro apparently matters)
Lightsong@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
massgrave.dev
Here you go.