Make a radio station and broadcast whatever you want.
If me and a bunch of my lemmy friends got on a yacht. Went into international waters what could we get away with legally and what would still be illegal?
Submitted 4 months ago by Patnou@lemmy.world to [deleted]
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j4k3@lemmy.world 4 months ago
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 months ago
akwd169@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
Chopper Dave!!
sit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 months ago
Your username cracks me tf up lmao
stinerman@midwest.social 4 months ago
Rebroadcast Major League Baseball with implied oral consent.
TehBamski@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Check out The Boat That Rocked. It’s based on true events from the 1960s.
felbane@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Top cast:
- Phillip Seymour Hoffman
- Bill Nighy
say no more, you son of a bitch. I’m in.
dgriffith@aussie.zone 4 months ago
Akasazh@feddit.nl 4 months ago
There was a literal pirate radio station in (or technically just beside) the Netherlands, they broadcasted off a ship and because it’s a small country, had nearly national coverage.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Veronica
They have since become a legal broadcaster.
DannyBoy@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
Would be cooler to steal a boat and do this.
DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
A terrific film
mechoman444@lemmy.world 4 months ago
It’s actually really super simple. You would be subject to the laws of the country you reside in or are a citizen of.
Laws don’t magically stop working just because you’re out of jurisdiction.
There’s also, admiralty law, Maritime law and international law, all of which have courts in designated countries. These laws are usually governed by treaty amongst many countries.
MutilationWave@lemmy.world 4 months ago
How is it that a US citizen, for example, is allowed to purchase and consume alcohol in intentional waters at age 18 when the law is 21 in their country?
Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 4 months ago
Laws don’t magically stop working just because you’re out of jurisdiction.
Actually I would say that most do. Extraterritorial jurisdiction is the exception, not the rule. Many countries apply it for cases of Genocide and War Crimes for example. You are right though that the US does apply a lot of its laws on US persons or vessels in international waters.
rollerbang@lemmy.world 4 months ago
What about cruise ships and their changes to gambling when in international waters? I’ve read quite a few times that the rules their machines work with change dramatically in that case. And they’re mostly still registered in countries with more strict rules otherwise.
Provided the above is true of course. Or could they be sued in this case?
mechoman444@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Gambling is generally a regional thing and is subject to each state. Usually it’s governed by where you are currently.
Cruise ships on the other hand are governed by the country the ship is registered in and/or by whatever country they’re docked at.
So a law will state specifically that there is no private gambling allowed within the confines of a certain geographical area such as the state of Washington, for example. The law can also make provisions that gambling is allowed on Indian reservations or within certain city limits.
The cruise ship leaves the geographical area where gambling is not allowed and allows gambling to occur in international waters which is fully law-abiding.
Also, most states and governments will provide licensing for casinos. If you qualify you may proceed with gambling in that jurisdiction.
Taalnazi@lemmy.world 3 months ago
What if you’re stateless?
mechoman444@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I assume when you say stateless you are probably referring to the United States. Although there are other country’s with states but nevertheless the same would still apply.
You gotta be from somewhere. If you’re indigenous in the state of Ohio you’re still a resident of Ohio in the country of America. All laws still apply.
If you’re referring to something like a sovereign citizen all laws still apply regardless of what people like that may believe.
ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
Casual Navigation talks a bit about this: What Law Applies In International Waters? Essentially, the ship needs to be registered to a country and the laws of that country apply while on the ship. Most ships register themselves in a country with very lax laws, known as a “flag of convenience”. The laws of Libera, Panama, and Marshall Islands must be pretty convenient since those are countries most ships get registered.
What happens if you don’t register your ship? It’s the same as not having a passport. You’re going to have a hard time when you want to dock at a port.
agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
Panama is mostly because of cheaper rates to go through the canal, if I’m not mistaken.
Kolanaki@yiffit.net 4 months ago
What if I don’t want to dock at a port? What if I just want to live on a boat in the middle of international waters?
ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
Theoretically, the ship could be seized by the military of any country. Not following international laws means not being protected by international laws.
OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
I hope you brought water purifiers.
marcos@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Theoretically, the yacht follows the laws of the place it’s registered. On practice, the country you and your friends live will be the one that cares about it… so, it’s not any different from what you can do at home.
Cuberoot@lemmynsfw.com 4 months ago
I think you can get away with just about anything, so long as it doesn’t piss off anyone with a bigger navy than you own.
tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 months ago
Asking for a Lemmy friend?
LouNeko@lemmy.world 4 months ago
We could kiss each other on the mouth.
rimmedalpha@lemmynsfw.com 4 months ago
Pwomise? 👉👈🥹
Foni@lemm.ee 4 months ago
I’m not sure but I think you would have to comply with the laws of the yacht’s flag country. Not carrying the flag I think is a big crime basically everywhere
dgriffith@aussie.zone 4 months ago
Not carrying the flag I think is a big crime basically everywhere
Hence why flying the pirate flag is a big deal. You’re indicating “no laws here”.
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 4 months ago
“Me got on a yacht?”
NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 4 months ago
As long as you stay out of any land (+x miles distance), and no one of your people calls for help, you can get away with anything, because nobody is coming to check on you, ever.
TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip 4 months ago
God can see you, do you better not be commenting any sins out there.
NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I’ll try my best. It is probably somewhat helpful for me that I do not have an appropriate boat.
But regarding these people with their huge luxury boats out there: I am pretty sure that they are doing it for the sole purpose of committing all kinds of sins.
parody@lemmings.world 4 months ago
Upvoted to compensate for the two masturbators who downvoted you
qyron@sopuli.xyz 4 months ago
We’re assuming they are making a sin live broadcast or recording, for there to be any sort of commenting? Is it like a strange new radical sports event?
Valmond@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Not stealing a yacht!
lath@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Legally, you can get away with anything as long as you don’t get caught.
Subnet64@lemmy.world 4 months ago
This applies to land also
lath@lemmy.world 4 months ago
And space!
OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
And sometimes even when you do get caught but you’re rich.