You guys have much bigger problems to worry about right now tbh
How Trump's Tariffs Could Cost Gamers Billions
Submitted 5 months ago by Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world to games@lemmy.world
https://kotaku.com/switch-2-ps5-prices-trump-tariffs-china-nintendo-sony-1851704901
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Renacles@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Tyfud@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Yeah, if the fascist overthrow of democracy only had tariffs to worry about, we’d be doing well.
slaacaa@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Not my president 😡
Tap for spoiler
(I live in Germany)
Etterra@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Well to be fair you already went through this shit once. Speaking of which, you’re gonna send troops over here to help us out this time, right?
Strider@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Schwein gehabt!
radicalautonomy@lemmy.world 5 months ago
It ain’t gonna cost me shit because I’m spending next to nothing for the foreseeable future apart from necessities, and what little I do spend is gonna be bought as locally as possible. Fuck this country.
OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 5 months ago
For how much people are worrying about tariffs I’ve lived my entire life with a 66% alcohol tax, 75% electronics tax, 240-380% vehicles tax and recently even saw 150% inflation.
Let’s play a game!
Where do I live?
catsrcool@lemmy.world 5 months ago
[deleted]OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 5 months ago
DING DING DING DING YOU WON!!!
troybot@midwest.social 5 months ago
Ooh I’ll play. Australia?
OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 5 months ago
Wow Australia has it like that? Nope. A lot less isolated
egonallanon@lemm.ee 5 months ago
Argentina?
driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 5 months ago
Recently 150% inflation, not Argentina, based on the “Recently”
kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 months ago
LodeMike@lemmy.today 5 months ago
Piracy 😍
chillhelm@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Unfortunately, the only hardware component you can actually download is RAM. And increased hardware prices are going to be the primary cost factor.
Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world 5 months ago
The funny thing is, I believe RAM is actually one component that isn’t manufactured as much in China (compared to other components).
LodeMike@lemmy.today 5 months ago
Oh sorry I didn’t read the article. Hardware makes more sense. Sorry.
GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
Then it isn’t so much playing games, it’s the death of the entire industry. If no one can play anything, there’s nothing to sell.
Neato!
Guess I’ll have to keep my steam deck in good working order and enjoy gaming in a tribute sense.
DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
Until untracked VPNs are made illegal due to “security.”
GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
…make your own. Destroy it and remake it with a new IP once every few months.
I am this petty, absolutely.
SpitSalute@lemmy.world 5 months ago
We as leftists, must organize in ways that match the fascists. Subversion of their goals is our goal. The class and culture war is in full effect and we must not be complacent.
Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I’m not at all sure you can assume gamers are leftists. An awful lot seem to be pretty hard right.
iheartneopets@lemm.ee 5 months ago
Yeah, gamer gate was one of the things that lead to Trump being elected in the first place. Plus the outcry that still happens when BIPOC, LGBT, or women protagonists are used. Hell, just look at any steam discussion board sometime and you’ll see it.
As someone who games, gAmERs are the fucking worst
darthelmet@lemmy.world 5 months ago
It’s a shame. Seeing the bullshit companies have done to games for the sake of profit ought to be a pretty easy on-ramp to anti-capitalism. But just like in the real world, racist shit distracts them from any of that.
Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Is this satire? :)
This is a gaming community and judging by the most upvoted comment, there are many non-Americans on this community.
Apologies if I missed the satire, just in Lemmy you often see “leftist” rants about how USSR splitting up Europe with Nazi Germany was a good thing and how genocidal invasions should actually be supported.
SpitSalute@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Apologies, I’m not on Lemmy very much, nor the gaming community. I’m an American distraught by Trump right now. I’m no communist. Just an impassioned and anxious progressive American. Thank you for telling me.
GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
go on Counter Strike
constant n words
“your body my choice.”
…yeah, y’all got this. Lmao. Gamers unite! 😂
SpitSalute@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Omg, are you a professional comedian!!! You could make millions!!! 😂😂😂 thats some original humor right there!!! You genius you
misk@sopuli.xyz 5 months ago
Won’t the tariffs incentivise domestic production and give work to more regular folks? Sounds like a leftist idea to me.
GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
If you gave it thirty years and the entire world paused and waited for us, sure,… but, we have a global economy and old people need medications, cars need chips and batteries. We all depend on each other. We can’t charge a toll and pretend everything won’t see any ill effects
ampersandrew@lemmy.world 5 months ago
We don’t have infrastructure to produce a lot of the components in the things we buy, and even if we did, it would inherently cost a lot more to produce than in the countries that are about to have tariffs placed on them. That the US ever was a manufacturing powerhouse was, in my understanding, a very “place and time” sort of deal after World War II. Not only were all of our competitors recovering from being bombed, but we also advanced to a services based economy very quickly, raising the standard of living beyond a point that manufacturing jobs can typically afford to support. I’m no economist though; I just watch one on YouTube, and “the middle income trap” is a frequent topic.
SpitSalute@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Tell me you don’t know how the world works without telling me you don’t know how the world works.
OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 5 months ago
Half right half wrong, would benefit USA a lot more if they were a developing market, not the center of the modern world
HerrVorragend@lemmy.world 5 months ago
‘American gamers must return to buying American for their gaming needs. That’s why I have talked to Microsoft and they will lower their prices considerably. You are welcome, nerds.’ -DT, probably soon
ch00f@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I think the most made-in-America gaming hardware is probably the mac pro
takeda@lemmy.world 5 months ago
You’re forgetting that they have to import all the components that are inside. Also mine says “Assembled in China” lol.
icecreamtaco@lemmy.world 5 months ago
No amount of tariffs would get me to buy an Xbox lol
surph_ninja@lemmy.world 5 months ago
What’s a better way to build up local manufacturing? The oligarchy says this is a good idea for solar panel & EV imports. What’s the difference?
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
*American?
Tilgare@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Mostly I suppose - but in the example/hypothetical given in the article of Sony moving it’s manufacturing from China to India, it would take 6-24 months minimum to find/develop the space they need and move the equipment. This cost to move all of the equipment half way across the world and the opportunity cost of out of stocks at stores worldwide when your distribution chain finally drys up - the cost was sited at 10%. If they MOVE a facility, I think that cost gets passed on to everybody worldwide.
There may be situations where JUST American production is moved to another country with more favorable tarrifs and worldwide production continues out of the existing facility, and probably in a situation like that, only the American costs would increase to cover the facility/equipmemt costs. But for that to make fiscal sense, this would have to be somehow CHEAPER than the price already elevated by the tarrifs. Companies could even in this case, theoretically hike prices worldwide to subsidize the impact to everybody. More people paying a higher prices mean everybody pays less.
Now, I couldn’t say if there’s any precident for the last line there. Purely hypothetical. But regardless - it’s entirely possible it WON’T be JUST Americans paying higher prices.
dabu@lemmy.world 5 months ago
In the US.
Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I was borderline thinking of re-editing the headline to something along the lines:
But then decided against it as I generally think it’s best to avoid title edits (other than minor corrections/edits that are explicit).
Poopfeast420@discuss.tchncs.de 5 months ago
Companies will find a way to apply this also to the rest of the world, citing some bogus reasons.
Stovetop@lemmy.world 5 months ago
It’s like how back when the Euro or the Pound were worth nearly 2x what the dollar was, a new device or piece of hardware would sell for $399/€399/£399.