remember when employers actually paid a living wage and didn’t exploit their employees? … oh, wait …
Remember when 15% was the expected, not the minimum?
Submitted 9 months ago by PP_BOY_@lemmy.world to [deleted]
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cerement@slrpnk.net 9 months ago
PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Tipped employees generally make way more than anything they’d realistically get on a wage but yeah counter staff gets the worst of it. Shitty wages and they have to deal with people like me who specifically ask where’s the “no tip” button on the screen
recklessengagement@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I hate how every transaction now forces me to pass monetary judgment.
I’d much rather a gratuity be pre-baked into menu prices, so I can easily make purchasing decisions that reflect my financial situation, rather than being surprised at the end.
I hardly go out to eat at all nowadays, partially due to this.
ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 9 months ago
Surprised at the end? Just thumb through and click no tip. Stop caving to tipping everyone or avoiding things you like. Don’t effing tip.
FelixCress@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Tipping is a reward for the good service and it is optional.
chickenf622@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
Maybe originally, but now a majority of people in the service industry rely on tips cause they are paid like $3/hr
redisdead@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Genuinely not my problem. If you’re not paid enough, there’s plenty of low qualification jobs out there.
EABOD25@lemm.ee 9 months ago
You could make a decent wage being a server without tips, but there’s legislation saying that they are going to take your proposed taxes from your paychecks before it even gets to your hand. That’s why you make $3/hr. Because the government said they’re taking their money up front. That’s why I think if you do depend on tips, you shouldn’t have to report them because then it just turns into the government double dipping. Also restaurant owners have full control to give you more pay, but they won’t because it’s cheaper for them to depend on customers to pay what they don’t want to
yourrestaurantbusiness.com/is-it-legal-to-pay-wai…
PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I got a coffee the other day on a date night. Girl (I can say that, she had her pronouns on her nametag) turned the iPad around for me to pay. I shit you not, the options were 0%, 25%, 50%, and “100% if [barista’s name] knocked it out of the park today!” Who tf is falling for that?
Korne127@lemmy.world 9 months ago
What the fuck
grue@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Of course I remember; it’s now!
And anybody who claims otherwise can go fuck themselves.
MehBlah@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I’ve quit tipping for the most part. Unless the service was top notch. I don’t tip on payment systems either. When I do tip, I tip the person not the pay app. I get dirty looks but since some businesses have started putting it on my bill I’ve stopped. Tipping doesn’t help the person who deserves the tip. It helps the businesses avoid paying the employee a decent wage.
null@slrpnk.net 9 months ago
You aren’t helping anyone. Ask a few servers what they think about your opinion.
MehBlah@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Don’t care. I know its the solution. When it was voluntary, I tipped. Now that its some kind of requirement I refuse. The whole thing about tipping was to reward good service. When you got bad service you didn’t tip. Now its a farce. Now greedy businesses are using it to avoid paying a living wage. Tipping isn’t helping those people in any way. Its just guaranteeing they wont ever be paid enough.
Zoot@reddthat.com 9 months ago
Neither are you. Tipping culture needs to die, and it either starts with the waitresses unionizing or something similar, or when no one tips forcing the prior to happen.
PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Former server, but still: no-tippers stung for about five minutes but I almost always forgot about them by the end of the night. The only times I’d remember if someone didn’t tip was if they’d made a fuss beforehand, but if you were quiet and just didn’t leave a tip, I’d assume you just didn’t have the money and forget about it.
Most servers won’t tell you this, but they’re usually making several times over what they’d realistically be getting for a wage (think $20-$50/hr on a given night). One table isn’t killing them.
Thcdenton@lemmy.world 9 months ago
PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 9 months ago
Tipping culture is fucked.
Tips shouldn’t be allowed to be deducted from wages, and minimum wage needs to be way higher. If this puts some places out of business then good, those places were exploiting their staff, and they’ll be replaced. Prices will go up, but they won’t go up more than how much it cost before with tip included.
alienanimals@lemmy.world 9 months ago
If everyone stopped tipping servers would realize it’s their boss who is not paying them a livable wage in the first place. Stop subsidizing employers.
NaoPb@eviltoast.org 9 months ago
I’ve heard someone say that if we pay people working at restaurants a living wage, it would become more expensive to eat out.
I personally only eat out a couple of times a year, so that wouldn’t matter to me. But what’s your take on this?
alienanimals@lemmy.world 9 months ago
If costs go up because people need more money to earn a living wage, then we should 100% do it. Everyone deserves a living wage.
MewtwoLikesMemes@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I refuse to tip on anything except things that are traditionally tipped, e.g. haircuts, non–fast food establishments, delivery, etc.
But that being said, when I do tip, I tip exceedingly well. Typically a minimum of 80–100%. I know how much they rely on tips, and I love seeing them smile. :)
Downside is I can’t afford to go those places or do those things very often. But what can you do? ¯\(ツ)/¯
ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 9 months ago
I remember when it was 10%
Tipping only exists because people tip.
Leg@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
Tipping actually exists because it was an effective way to avoid paying newly freed slaves a fair wage. We just kept kept doing it because it became “what has always been done”.
Rolive@discuss.tchncs.de 9 months ago
I only tip when on vacation in countries like Vietnam. Since a few euros is a lot of money there.
Anywhere else not.
HawlSera@lemm.ee 9 months ago
I’m actually surprised I’m not asked to tip the cashier when I buy gas at the pump…
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 9 months ago
What I find worse is when I go to a resteraunt that I went to today. It was a mexican resteraunt. And it was a sit down resteraunt. However, the food was basically fast food. This was a fast food place, better than taco bell, but maybe worse than chipotle. It was priced higher than chipotle by about 30%. And then you have to tip because its a sit down resteraunt. Except…my server took my order, and then I never saw him again. Never refilled my drink. Never came over to check if everything was ok. And it wasn’t a packed house. I was one of 5 tables, and 3 of the other tables had a different server.
Meaning, this guy had 2 tables to attend to, ignored both, someone else brought my food out, and then I sat there, waiting for the check…and he just stood at the bar, and conversed. Finally I went to the hostess table, and said “do I pay here? Orrr…” and she said “No, your server will be by with the check.”
I felt like asking “Will he though???” After like 15 more minutes he came by, meal clearly done, and he says “So, did you want another root beer?”
And then it asked for tip. Tip for what??? You pressed a few buttons on an iPad, and then ghosted the whole dinning room for 45 minutes.
coffeejoe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 months ago
And it shouldn’t be your job to reprimand them. And they shouldn’t be financially reprimanded. They should be taught better by mgmt or let go. Not on you to manage someone else’s employees or wages. Wish we would all stop tipping at the same time.
udon@lemmy.world 9 months ago
huh, tipping as outsourced management. Never thought of it like that. So it’s a win-win: Lower wages and less work to do!