Maybe we should just start nuking the most densely packed cities/countries. Sorry NYC, Tokyo, and basically all of India.
But would this not solve the problem?
The thing is that that’s an extremely fucked up and evil thing to do
If global warming is a biproduct of humans, wouldn't the logical answer be to kill 2/3rds of the humans?
Submitted 4 months ago by Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world to [deleted]
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theywilleatthestars@lemmy.world 4 months ago
actionjbone@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
I’ll say. Even Thanos only wanted to kill HALF the population.
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Well, I was going to say just kill ALL the humans, but then I thought people would get mad that I’m killing all the humans. So I said 2/3rds.
zbyte64@awful.systems 4 months ago
You could accomplish the same CO2 reduction with fewer deaths if you start with the richest and work your way down.
MacroCyclo@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
Good point, you might only need to knock off a very small fraction.
KISSmyOS@feddit.org 4 months ago
But then everybody will starve cause there’s no one left to create jobs.
samus12345@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Bubs12@lemm.ee 4 months ago
Nice try, ChatGPT
Delphia@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I actually think this is a great idea.
We should probably start with the people who think that killing off large portions of the population is a great idea and stop once we run out of those people.
KISSmyOS@feddit.org 4 months ago
No, the reason we want to stop global warming is to prevent the death of 2/3 of all humans.
spittingimage@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Well I mean… initially you’d have a whole bunch of dead humans emitting carbon dioxide and methane as they decompose.
PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 4 months ago
“We have Thanos at home”
The Thanos at Home:
Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Thanos was fucking stupid and no amount of “cold logic” bullshit will justify the fact that unlimited cosmic power could have just doubled the universe.
PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 4 months ago
Or just the fact that achieving space farring tech in effect makes you a post scarcity civilization.
Thanos wasn’t called Mad because his people deemed his ideas too radical, it was because even the premise of his plan was based on him being as dumb as a sack of rocks.
MNByChoice@midwest.social 4 months ago
At least in the comics he wanted to impress the personification of Death.
Rhaedas@fedia.io 4 months ago
Neither addresses the problem, they just both push it into the future. Half the population/double the resources isn't even a reasonable amount to give much more time. It's better for drama though, because disappearing 99% or more of the universe would have really set back the Avengers, if any of them made the cut at all.
etchinghillside@reddthat.com 4 months ago
Calm down Thanos.
sxan@midwest.social 4 months ago
Good answer! Nuking ruins valuable resources, like plants that help reduce greenhouse gases, and animals that help ecosystems thrive.
What we need is some sort of pandemic, that targets the especially stupid (refusing to take protectionary precautions, idiotically increasing their risk of exposure). It’s hard to go without also catching people with comorbidities in the net, but acceptable losses, I guess.
If only there was such a disease…
CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 4 months ago
If you find a GoFundMe for this, let me know.
cygnosis@lemmy.world 4 months ago
It might have helped solve the problem if we did it 50 or 60 years ago, along with global EMP strikes to disable all the vehicles and industrial equipment, and a global commitment to return to an agrarian low-energy lifestyle. But the sad truth is that, right now, it’s already too late. We have already released so much carbon into the atmosphere that we are more or less guaranteed to see 4 degrees C above pre-industrial. And if you aren’t already retired you will probably see it in your lifetime. Along the way that triggers a series of cascading feedback loops which, all-told, will likely take the planet to about 10C above pre-industrial. We continue to release something like 40 billion metric tons per year. And the best CCS facility we have, in Iceland, can sequester about 4,000 tons per year. We are racing toward the cliff with the throttle at full speed and no corrupt government scientist is going to take away my truck or make me eat bugs.
fern@lemmy.autism.place 4 months ago
OP convenient that your living location isn’t on the list. Maybe start looking inward? If you remove 2/3 of your mass you’d be doing your part, right?
southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
I mean, nuking? That ain’t exactly going to fix anything.
Like, the whole idea is bad, but dropping nukes is it’s own environmental disaster as bad or worse than global warming.
Even using conventional munitions is going to cause fires and literal megatons of debris to be released into the atmosphere and water. This ain’t going to fix anything.
It also assumes that population control is the fix in the first place, and it isn’t. The population levels would only shift the speed of change, not the fact of it. To stop or reverse the changes, you have to change the underlying cause of the change, which is pretty much down to industrial processes across multiple areas, including agriculture.
Yeah, you kill off enough people, industrial efforts might cease, but it’s more likely that the remaining people are going to have to rely on the most effective methods to stay alive and functional, rather than the methods that are environmentally best.
lemmefixdat4u@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Logically, killing humans would be way down on the list of potential Global Warming solutions. We would have to exhaust all other methods first. Just banning private vehicles would save a few billion from extermination. Green energy tech and Nuclear power would save more. Vegetarian diets even more. Reducing organic waste, involuntary birth control, carbon sequestration - it’s a long list of better incremental solutions. They may be more costly than extermination, but they’re infinitely more ethical. It’s only logical if that’s the sole solution that ensures some of the population survives. We’re a long way from that condition.
A_A@lemmy.world 4 months ago
“… involuntary birth control …”
We are the only two contributors here rising this topic. How do you see it ?
Please also read my root comment.lemmefixdat4u@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I see it as one possibility of many. Measures currently employed are limited because most countries are democratic, where politicians must appease the people to stay in office. China could implement one-child because they are a de-facto dictatorship.
dan1101@lemm.ee 4 months ago
Bill Burr said we should start sinking cruise ships.
Today@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Covid tried. Eventually the earth will win.
CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Username checks out.
palebluethought@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I almost hesitate to bring up the other problems with your plan since, obviously the total monstrosity of it. But that’s anyway pretty well covered so I’ll just throw in that blowing enough nukes to kill that many people would create considerably worse environmental disaster
KittenBiscuits@lemm.ee 4 months ago
But if enough were detonated, would it create a nuclear winter thereby offsetting the warming trend? Image
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 months ago
The Mojave wasteland makes me wish for one though…
bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 4 months ago
The problem to this solution is who chooses the humans. The only moral way would be to accept volunteers.
actionjbone@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
Or to start with the wealthiest people and biggest corporations.
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Thats easy. Smokers. They die first. If they are willing to accept that they’re using products that give people cancer, they die first.
I didn’t agree to smoke cigerettes. Or vapes. Or cigars. Yet I have to smell cigerettes everyday, because they don’t care if they give you cancer.
First to die.
zazo@lemmy.world 4 months ago
That’s easy. People who wish others to die. They die first. If they are willing to accept sacrificing others, they die first.
I didn’t agree to die. Or to be killed. Or murdered. Yet I have to be executed all the same, because they don’t care if you die or not.
First to die.
Surp@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Ok Hitler…
problematicPanther@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Nuking wouldn’t really be the way to go, it’ll destroy the world in other ways.
lordnikon@lemmy.world 4 months ago
oh 2/3s will die just not by humanity hands directly. heat, extreme weather, more pandemics. it’s all coming earth will get it’s payment in blood.
iiGxC@slrpnk.net 4 months ago
If people who hunt with population control as the excuse were logically consistent then they’d say yes
A_A@lemmy.world 4 months ago
The one child policy as was imposed in China is the most drastic that is ethically feasible.
XeroxCool@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I don’t think limited resources ever results in reduced births. 100 years ago, US parents were making lots of kids and not naming them for the first year because infant mortality was so high. Education is what slows the birthrate.
A_A@lemmy.world 4 months ago
You are right that it happened in the past and it still happens in many countries today : without education we are going toward disaster.
But i was trying to have a somewhat optimistic view and if you consider China’s one child policy it necessitated more education but this policy was sparked by a lack of resources.
We could find more examples where education combine with lack of resources would go the way i was saying.
InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 4 months ago
It is man made and the answer is to make better use of our resources to limit pollution where a green alternative is not possible.
Fah_Q@lemmynsfw.com 4 months ago
It would be more fair to kill off the larger population how many Chinese are there again? Probably smarter to kill off the population who are producing the most offspring per family though.
BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
If the goal is reducing emissions, taking out the highest carbon emitters per capita would make the most sense. That’s the developed countries, with the US leading the pack.
Fah_Q@lemmynsfw.com 4 months ago
We’re already killing off the all the rich ultra polluters in all countries I thought. Lol also just like COVID stats USA leads the pack in “reported” pollution. Wether that be do to lack of funds or good old fashioned propaganda for our “less developed” earth friends.
smer@slrpnk.net 4 months ago
no, just kill the system we live in, which is fueling the climate catastrophe.
MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I know the name of the community is “no stupid questions”, but you managed to power through somehow anyway
An excellent trolling if ever I’ve seen one
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EleventhHour@lemmy.world 4 months ago
i have observed that many people interpret the community title as a dare
fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 4 months ago
If I’m really honest I often feel that way about the questions here. I suspect that most of us are here just to gawk at how truly stupid some of us are.