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We need a larger one. Yes, for the last time. Pleeeeeeeeeease!

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Submitted ⁨⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Peter_Arbeitslos@discuss.tchncs.de⁩ to ⁨science_memes@mander.xyz⁩

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  • neidu2@feddit.nl ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Just get it over with and start building an equatorial particle collider already.

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    • OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Unironical support

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      • Peter_Arbeitslos@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Can we get a collider between moon an earth? I know, a lot of particles out there, but if we isolate it?

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      • webghost0101@sopuli.xyz ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Put one of them magnet floating trains on top please.

        The equator express.

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    • RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      … around the sun.

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      • neidu2@feddit.nl ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Free power as well. I see no downside to this.

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    • DefinitelyNotAPhone@hexbear.net ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      A gaggle of particle physicists standing in a circle chanting “RING! WORLD! RING! WORLD!”

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      • neidu2@feddit.nl ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Surely the collective noun for a group of particle physicists has to be A Theory.

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    • Socsa@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Orbital particle collider or bust

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      • threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        The GEO Particle Collider.

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      • pelya@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        That’s what the asteroid belt is for!

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    • KazuyaDarklight@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Just put it in orbit! Let’s commit and put a ring on this planet!

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    • Duamerthrax@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Skip that. Put it in orbit and make it double as a solar collector array and beam the extra energy back down.

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    • Asidonhopo@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Honest question could this be feasible with a few dozen satellites positioned above the Van Allen Belts to accelerate particles, and just letting the particles raw dog the solar wind and ride around Earth’s gravity well between each acceleration satellite? Cause that would be badass

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  • GravitySpoiled@lemmy.ml ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Saturn is one step ahead of us

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    • threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Perfect! A bunch of raw materials are already there! We just need to refine them and assemble them into a particle collider.

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    • AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      They’ll be gone in another 15 million to 400 million years.

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  • Posadas@hexbear.net ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Image

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  • Iheartcheese@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Image

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    • pigup@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Fr no solid theoretical basis, just trust me bro

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  • breakcore@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The two first are the same?

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    • Peter_Arbeitslos@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Ops, I meant the Proton Syncrotron.

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  • Black_Mald_Futures@hexbear.net ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Decades of colliding hardons and what do we have to show for it

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    • reaper_cushions@hexbear.net ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Just the Higgs boson, which is exactly what the LHC was originally built for. But other than the intended results, it’s been basically useless!

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      • Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        But other than the intended results, it’s been basically useless!

        Tbf, there are quite a few big experiments that have been done and will be done with the LHC, not just the Higgs boson search.

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    • Omegamint@hexbear.net ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The hardons haven’t been colliding fast enough. Sorry boys, I don’t make the rules

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    • Adkml@hexbear.net ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Confirmation of the principles they built the thing to demonstrate.

      Every time so far.

      This isn’t far off from some dipshit saying the place program was a waste of resources.

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      • CommunistBear@hexbear.net ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I think they were making a hardon joke more than questioning scientific research

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    • Nachorella@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      it was about the hardons we collided along the way

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  • mindbleach@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It’ll still be called the Future Circular Collider when it’s shut down after forty years of service. You gotta commit to a scale in the proposal, like the Overwhelmingly Large Telescope.

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    • Klear@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Relevant xkcd

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  • FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Orbital collider when?

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    • liam070@sopuli.xyz ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Maybe that’s the real Kardashev scale…

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  • mcz@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Just one more collider bro I swear just this one and we’ll fix the standard model bro just one more I swear

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  • NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Is we even sure Geneva hasn’t already been overrun by the Combine?

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    • uis@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      No, that would be Bulgaria

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  • iAvicenna@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Larger Hadron Collider

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  • DannyMac@lemm.ee [bot] ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    [So I says, “Super collider? I just met her.”.

    Then they built the super collider. ](youtu.be/BFE0RcnAt74)

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  • BoxedFenders@hexbear.net ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    When I see massive and highly technical projects like this I wonder where they find enough skilled labor to build it. Just look at the immense complexity of this and they have build miles and miles of it underground. I’m imagining that all of the construction workers have PhDs in physics or some shit. Or am I overestimating the demands here?

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    • porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Overestimating it a little, the construction workers just need to be good. But there are indeed literally thousands of PhDs working on it for decades, from all over the world.

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  • uis@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I like how it went from second to third picture. Borders? Who needs borders?

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  • pudcollar@hexbear.net ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    What’s the new one for?

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    • Peter_Arbeitslos@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      More particles. MOOOOOREEEE!

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    • Alawami@lemmy.ml ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      AI particles & AI physics 🤡

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    • catch22@startrek.website ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      For smashing things

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  • MotoAsh@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The last time? aaaahahahaa… no. There are several phenomenon that require energy levels that only stellar objects can throw off. They’ll be asking for bigger colliders even when they’re dedicated space stations firing what would be equivalent to weapons of mass destruction at each other.

    Unless scientists can figure everything out just by observing space, there will always be a demand for a bigger collider. Since scientists like to control variables and don’t like waiting for random events that they then almost have to reverse-engineer to explain (without most all of the sensitive detectors built in to these colliders), there will always be a demand.

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    • breadsmasher@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      “We just want to smash two little planets together at the 99% speed of light!”

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      • FuglyDuck@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I’m inclined to let them. I wanna see that,

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  • CobblerScholar@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Why does a larger loop mean better results?

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  • nintendiator@feddit.cl ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Honest question: why is a larger collider even needed? Just make the particles run more loops around your track.

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  • Dagamant@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I can probably look this up but how does size effect the result in these things?

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    • cynar@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The limiting factor is the bend. The subatomic particles want to go in a straight line. A magnetic field is used to bend the beam around into a circle. The faster the particles are moving however, the more energy is needed to bend them. A larger circle has less bend. This lets you get your particles faster.

      Since E^2 = M^2 C^4 + P^2 C^2 (the full form is E=MC^2 ). If you can force the particle to stop rapidly, then you can force the energy from momentum into mass. This is done by hitting 2 beams into each other. The faster the beams, the more energy is available to convert to mass.

      Most of the time, this creates a lot of mundane particles. However, ever so often it creates something interesting. They rapidly decay into mundane particles, but the shower they create tells us a lot about them. The catch is that all the energy needs to be present at once. You can’t use more particles, you need to make them move faster.

      As for why. The more particles we have to study, the more we can figure out about the underlying rules. We have a number of theories. They all agree at lower energy levels, but disagree at higher energy levels. By knowing which is correct, we can pry deeper into the workings of reality.

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      • Dagamant@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Thanks!

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      • LesserAbe@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Thanks! I’m personally in favor of doing things for knowledge’s sake. That said, what is the stated practical benefit when some government body is writing a check?

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  • Etterra@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Just wait until the day somebody makes one that’s a full 1 AU in radius.

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  • FuglyDuck@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Of course they need a bigger one. They haven’t spontaneously created a world-ending black hole yet.

    (Actually? They should build one looping around the meridians. Maybe build a turret at each pole. You know. In case aliens show up.

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    • marcos@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Unironically, getting to watch short-lived black holes explode could be really, really useful.

      But no, the larger one on the picture isn’t anything near big enough for that.

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      • FuglyDuck@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Didn’t stop some festmongering from the last one that went operational.

        “The new supercollider could cause BlAcK hOLeS; ExPeRtS SaY!!!1!1!1!1!2!?3!!4!!!

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  • Glowstick@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    10 years? Hahahahahaha, sure

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