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Existential trolley problem

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Submitted ⁨⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨fossilesque@mander.xyz⁩ to ⁨science_memes@mander.xyz⁩

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  • PP_BOY_@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Are we even sure that Sisyphus can make it to either location? Because in order to reach a destination he must first make it to the halfway point, right? But to make it there, he’s gotta make it to that point’s halfway point, but before he gets there he need to…

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    • DancingBear@midwest.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      He doesn’t actually have to make it there he just has to pull that lever with a force an omnipotent being would have trouble accomplishing

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      • WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Just make the lever longer.

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    • xlash123@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Instead, let’s aim for double the end location. Then all he has to do is travel half that distance

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      • Belgdore@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        But he must first travel half the distance to that line, leaving us where we started.

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    • Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It depends on whether Sisyphus has learned calculus.

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      • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I hear they only have pomegranates in hell. Neither calculus nor gravity for them!

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  • driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Dosen’t matters what you choose, given that for sisifus to reach his destination first he have to reach half, then half of it, then half again and again making movement impossible.

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    • NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Ah, so the answer must be no.

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    • Sanctus@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Stands up and walks away

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    • repungnant_canary@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      “Hołd my limes!” - said Sisyphus

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  • loaExMachina@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Why are these the passengers

    oo yeah

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    • deaf_fish@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I think that is how I would be if on a ship.without a computer, going insane.

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    • blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      … Millennial squats.

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  • GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yes, because he’s finally rolling the boulder down a hill.

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    • nicknonya@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      it says “towards” so not necessarily downhill

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      • jawa21@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Not necessarily downhill, but the possibility of downhill is implied. Both of these locations would need to be infinitely high in order for the direction to be uphill.

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  • ummthatguy@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Image

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  • affiliate@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    you can always add an empty room without changing the total number of rooms, so there should be plenty of room for sisyphus and his boulder at the hotel

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  • FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    He did it. He beat philosophy, this is the question that we’ve been searching for.

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  • hexaflexagonbear@hexbear.net ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I can get him a room at the Hilbert Hotel, I know a guy.

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    • Nougat@fedia.io ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I know infinite guys.

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      • BodilessGaze@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I know aleph-null guys. All in the same family. Parents were lazy and named all their kids after the positive integers. 42 is my best friend.

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    • dumbass@leminal.space ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Dude stfu, that was supposed to be between us!

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  • StoicLime@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    We won’t know until we open the box…

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  • beefbot@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Sisyphus is both happy and not happy, as long as we don’t ask. But the instant we ask, it’s one or the other

    (surely someone already made this joke)

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  • Hugh_Jeggs@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I feel really sorry for the cleaning crew at the hotel

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  • PrinceWith999Enemies@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    If he goes to the hotel, though, he will get to hear a great story from the owner of the hotel about a once beautiful but now decaying resort that includes a sweeping adventure involving a not-exactly-straight con man, an art theft that was not a theft, Willem Dafoe, and Tilda Swinton.

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  • Etterra@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It depends on how much it costs to rent a room at the hotel. If it’s exorbitantly high, then the hotel can just be knocked down it’s no problem, you’re only going to risk endangering rich people and so that’s a victimless incident. The ship of Theseus on the other hand is most likely manned by ancient Greeks, who while not necessarily the best people by modern standards, are probably mostly poor or even slaves.

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    • NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Right you are! So, how does this help us answer the question?

      P.S. Sometimes I wonder how many people on here actually believe that human value is inversely proportional to wealth with no other factors. Repeat it enough times, even as a joke or hyperbole, and you start to believe it.

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  • Nom@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    When the math professor does philosophy questions.

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  • Utter_Karate@hexbear.net ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Won’t the boulder roll back to the intersection anyway?

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  • No_Change_Just_Money@feddit.de ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    42

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  • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Sisyphus is rolling his boulder along a track toward the ship of theseus. It has had all its constituent parts removed and replaced and reconstructed along an alternate track. You may pull a lever and divert Sisyphus toward the reconstructed ship. How big of a dick would that make you toward the shipmaker?

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  • Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    He can’t go to the hotel because infinite cannot divided by zero, which is his boulder

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  • GarbageShoot@hexbear.net ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Isn’t there a version of this with like 5 intersecting thought experiments?

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    • fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I hate them all.

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    • NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Not quite what you asked for but here: xkcd.com/1531/

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  • Hello_Kitty_enjoyer@hexbear.net ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    death to america

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  • xia@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The real question is… will it take him more than a day to reach either one?

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  • lugal@sopuli.xyz ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Hell is other people

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    • wieson@feddit.de ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Someone’s read Sartre’s Huis Clos (⁠ ⁠´⁠◡⁠‿⁠ゝ⁠◡⁠`⁠)

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    • AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Decent game. 4/5

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  • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    theseus can eat shit so fuck that nerd.

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  • merari42@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Na, I am pretty sure that sysiphus sees tracks that are only the result of a shwadow play in a cave and you have to exit the cave to truly experience reality

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