Don’t threaten me with a good time.
There’s a lot of confusion about what democratic socialists want, and that’s fair. Even within our group, there are differences among us.
Submitted 2 days ago by sanitation@lemmy.today to workreform@lemmy.world
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dephyre@lemmy.world 2 days ago
BassTurd@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Even for people that think that they are against democratic socialism, there’s no way they read this and think that’s a bad thing. This reads like something that’s used to promote DSA rather than fear monger. It’s out of character for Republicans to slander something so softly without any sort of hate rhetoric or other blasphemy.
Really, who can read this and say, yea, I want the power to stay with the wealthy and not be with the people other than wealthy people? I would have guessed this were satire if I just saw it in passing.
schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Feel free to listen to their FO News attacks on AOC. Their audience has been trained to automatically hate her and anything she does, so they can present her platform straightforwardly and without fear of losing their audience.
Hassan Piker is another guy that often gets criti-praised.
uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
Tineye only reveals a couple of hits on imagur. This isn’t an official image coming from the Republican party, but a mock-up done privately.
mufkin@lemmy.zip 18 hours ago
It’s pretty clear that they, whom ever that might be, is already trying to split the democratic vote. Stay focused my people.
starik@lemmy.today 1 day ago
Anyone thinking this is real (“dOnt TheaTeN mE wiTh a gOOd tIMe”, “They’re trying to scaremonger”) is a fucking moron. Republicans are evil and often stupid, but not stupid enough to word an ad like that. They’re well aware that “corporations and wealthy owners” has a negative connotation and “workers and the public” has a positive one. Please be more skeptical.
Tilgare@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
You heard Mike Johnson campaigning for the DSA in front of the whole country, right? Using scary Boogeyman language to describe perfectly reasonable and honorable things?
BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
Yeah it’s highly satirical, but I don’t doubt some of MAGA will think it legit. How they react though…
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 2 days ago
The details are academic unless we can get them in power. One step at a time. We all need to pull together.
slingstone@lemmy.world 2 days ago
“…replace capitalism with democratic socialism…”
Don’t threaten me with a good time.
Snapz@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Yes, but message is too stuffy. Just say,
“Billionaires, who are predators, stole the world. They made life terrible for everyone without a private jet and now we want to take it back for all of you, because we are also you.”
VitoRobles@lemmy.today 1 day ago
I know a lot of conservatives because I work at a national company and have to deal with these cucks. But this message would absolutely align with them and make them pro Democratic socialists.
They aren’t friends with billionaires. They’re complaining about gas prices and food prices like all of us. They are sick of our taxes going to war.
humblearrogant@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Yes
OldChicoAle@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Yes! Yes! A million times yes!
daychilde@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Well, here’s my take: I don’t know for 100% sure exactly what the US looks like if all the DSA goals are met. But I know what it looks like now, and I know that at least MOST of what they’re proposing sounds pretty damned useful.
If DSA can win, I suspect some of the more fringe stuff might not make it as-is. But the things most people actually support - wealth equality, social safety nets, universal healthcare, livable wages and mayve even universal income… we can agree on enough basics that I feel confident we can work out the rest.
BadmanDan@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
The DSA dosent even know what it wants? They’re literally campaigning and endorse capitalist who owns rental rental properties, but won’t endorse actual socialist.
mrsilkworm@piefed.social 2 days ago
If this is real, then its the best advertisement the DSA could have
boaratio@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Yes. This is what I want.
sepi@piefed.social 1 day ago
You threatening me with a good time?
cAUzapNEAGLb@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Why is this image stamped by a republican party?
A party is not a unity, it is an amalagamation of people aligned under a set of common goals
The less common goals there area the bigger the tent and the higher probability of those common goals passing, but also a higher probability of group discors as more and more diverse ideas find polarizing topics
It is party leadership, and thus the people already within the tent, to carefully determine which goals to propose, because too few or narrow goals and the niche is too small to find majority support, but if the goals are too many or top broad then the group can become too big and rip itself apart like an overblown balloon
So, its a fine balance of making goals wide enough to capture enough to get them acheived, but not so much that it stalls or pops
Its up to the individual to look at a party’s goals and their own goals and determine if they can tolerate being under that tent or not .
I think under the current election system, all individual voters are having to tolerate so much to receive so little - i dont know if there is any person who truly feels seen and represented by their state and federal elections - i hope at least a few are in city and county elections
could be better, i think a lot about liquid democracy and consent based voting
blackbelt352@lemmy.world 2 days ago
They’re trying to fear monger. They have their constituents trained to short circuit and hate anything they label as communist/socialist. Its like that Fox News screenshot with all the barely centrist very normal stuff that “lEfTiStS” want to do.
CMDR_Horn@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Looks like a news letter from comal county Texas Republican HQ. Most likely to fear monger their base
OccamsRazer@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Tbh a ton of people across the political spectrum agree with that statement. Unfortunately the only tool dsa seems to bring is price controls, basically trading corporations for a completely inept and unaccountable government body. It’s a short term solution with populists blundering around implementing controls over stuff they don’t understand. Why would we trust these politicians to make economic decisions that have huge impact, despite a complete lack of qualifications?
compostgoblin@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 days ago
If you think the only tool the DSA brings is price controls, I invite you to read their platform
OccamsRazer@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Fair enough, I guess that’s just the one i hear about, and it’s obvious to me that it will fail. Maybe other policies are legit.
blackbelt352@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Its working pretty good for Mamdani.
OccamsRazer@lemmy.world 2 days ago
He got a degree in Africana studies. I’m sure you understand being skeptical of his knowledge on economics… his policies are popular, but that’s not at all the same as being good in the long term. I guess time will tell.
redparadise@lemmy.ml 2 days ago
Yes… completely unelected undemocratic, actually non-transparent and greedy/profit seeking by design private companies will certainly be more effective, the government totally can’t hire their skilled folk.
OccamsRazer@lemmy.world 1 day ago
One of those is accountable to the actual value of goods, and the other is not.
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
Yeah and that’s a really big problem. There’s no cohesive plan for anything. Mostly the polices are just vague “socialism and stuff” and a hatred of Jews. Some DSAs hate just the Jews in Israel and others hate all Jews.
Everyone in the DSA seems to look the other way about antisemitism because they’ve been given the permission structure to consider any hateful comments about Jews to be “criticizing Israel” even when it’s about Jews in their community that have never set foot in Israel. If anyone in the DSA calls out the antisemitism they know they will be harassed by the hatemongers within the group. Seems the common thread in the group, denial of antisemitism.
The DSA is to Democrats as MAGA is to Republicans. A group that’s all about grievances and racist dog whistles that is trying to take over a mainstream political party to force their will onto others. But just like MAGA, there’s no real policies, just vague vibes that are centered around “owning” their political enemies. And like MAGA there’s a genuine fear of harassment that keeps everyone in the group in line.
Just another brand of fascist in fascist America.
belunos@lemmus.org 2 days ago
That’s a lot to say without backing it up. Got any links?
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
I could just link to the site you’re currently on. Just read the comments in leftist threads. I’ve had people tell me they’re for genocide of all Jews, and it’s the general consensus on leftist lemmy that harrrassing the Jews in their communities is completely fine. Stochastic terrorism is commonplace here.
You just need to google any story posted by leftists and find it on another source to get more information to understand that what gets posted here is propaganda. They leave out any information that’s inconvenient to their narrative. They’ll say someone got arrested for protesting when they actually get arrested for violent crimes, which they leave out because they want the narrative to be that they’re being oppressed peaceful protesters.
The number one target for hate crimes are Jews these days. These hate crimes spike whenever there’s activity in the middle east. You will never hear about that in leftist circles. Too inconvenient. So you need to goolge the data on that yourself.
And if you ask a “socialist” about anything to do with public policy, they don’t have any cohesive answers. Just vague slogans and repeating whatever wealthy monetized influencers tell them to say.
Just read lemmy, not from the perspective that these are your “allies” but from a more critical perspective. Socialism is just an aesthetic for most people. Put on a Che Guevara T-Shirt in your college dorm and say some slogans about the “workers of the world uniting” despite the fact that the university crowd is not the working class. The actual working class is generally despised by leftists, it’s mostly a fantasy where college kids pretend they are the oppressed working class. But that’s just half-hearted bullshit they’ll grow out of. The real driving force of the present day leftist movement is hatred of Jews and that’s what will stick with people for the rest of their lives.
Leftists do everything they can to avoid having any discussion about antisemitism, even when it’s painfully obvious to anyone outside their group. They dismiss any claims of antisemitism as an attack originating from… well guess who? So these problems will not be addressed by leftists and the movement will continue to degrade further into becoming a fascist hate movement.
HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Why do Republicans insist on making DSA sound so fucking cool?
_stranger_@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I came into the comments to see if this was satire. That’s a fucking great ad for DSA.
chuckleslord@lemmy.world 2 days ago
“The children these days are still afraid of the communism, yeah? Just paint them as commies, that’ll solve 'em.”
rayyy@piefed.social 1 day ago
The majority of people are afraid of things they are told to be afraid of. Education dispels the fear. That’s why the GOP loves the poorly educated.
thecaptaintrout@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Saw an attack ad against Abdul here in MI yesterday, that honestly made me want to vote even more for him by pointing out how ‘dangerous’ he is to establishment.
jimmy90@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
lol there’s been a couple of great interviews with the leaders of the DSA attempting to explain their policies
“oh no we don’t mean that we mean, err something, err, whatever i can make up right now”
at least try to make the policies on your website make some sense so your people don’t look like clowns when asked about them
HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
I think DSA spokespersons candidates like Mamdani have actually done a wonderful job at explaining their policies, idk what you’re on about.
jimmy90@lemmy.world 1 day ago
ah yes let’s just look at that record of socialist wins when they’re not masquerading as regular dems
oh is a big fat zero
that’s the real threat of a good time we’re looking forward to