They can’t possibly hold a different opinion from me, it must be that they don’t truly understand! I’d better explain it again.
perplexing
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Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 21 hours ago
Saapas@piefed.zip 19 hours ago
Nah, just say “read theory” or “google it” or whatever
BewareOfIdiot@nord.pub 18 hours ago
Don’t forget to raise your voice, get flustered, and start pointing out their character flaws irrelevant to the issue at hand
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 17 hours ago
“Oh yeah? Well you’re just a fascist zionist shitlib defender of empire!”
“What does that have to do with my favorite Spice Girl?”
popekingjoe@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
bryophile@lemmy.zip 18 hours ago
Context really matters.
Although I agree these people are just annoying in most cases, not all disagreement is equally valid. In too many discussions today, facts get dismissed as “that’s just, like, your opinion, man.” Facts really should change your mind when explained well.
It’s frustrating how predominant this anti-intellectualism has become.
Tiral@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
Kinda depends on what you’re talking about. Most things sure, others are legit kinda fucked full stop regardless.
slaacaa@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
“Why are people mad at Playstation going full digital? I haven’t bought a game on a disc in years”
honesthenery@thelemmy.club 21 hours ago
context matters
Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 19 hours ago
Today I heard that they have to design slaughterhouses with twists and turns so the cows can’t see what’s happening up ahead while they wait in line. Because if the cows can see the slaughtering being done to the cows ahead, they panic. Because,
COWS DON’T WANT TO DIE
I don’t know if this fact is true, but I’ve heard a lot of other facts like it that turned Me vegan. And uh, yeah, meme. Humanity actually needs to quit eating meat or humanity is going extinct. They’re chopping down the rainforests to grow soybeans, and 80% of the soy we grow is fed to livestock. If we didn’t eat milk, eggs, and dairy, then we could just eat the soy ourselves and skip all the inefficiencies of animal metabolism. Humanity is doomed if it can’t reduce meat consumption. The EAT-Lancet report recommended halving human meat consumption globally, in order to save the planet and humanity.
You should react to the fact that cows don’t want to die by going vegan. The fact that people don’t, is dooming humanity.
Forester@pawb.social 18 hours ago
While nothing you have said is incorrect, your tone and messaging is more likely to drive people to the opposite position.
Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 18 hours ago
I disagree. I think when people encounter extremist speech, they have an initial strong reaction, but then the idea sticks in their head and becomes normalised. Over time, that reaction subsides. The overton window shifts. Those Nazis in the whitehouse have been shifting the overton window right for more than a decade. At first, the public had an initial strong reaction. But then their fascist ideas stuck in their heads and became normalised. And now look where we are! The mainstream left has been pushing moderates like Joe Biden, who don’t provoke any initial strong reactions, but they don’t inspire people either. Their ideas don’t stick in people’s heads. We need more extremists in left wing politics, and we need more extreme leftist messaging.
COWS DON’T WANT TO DIE
We need to keep yelling it until it becomes normalised, and then people will take it seriously. Most people are conformists and will react to anything they haven’t heard before by shutting down. It’s actually kind of useful, evolutionarily, to be a little bit of a conformist, because it helps you fit in and avoid in-group conflict. It lets people work together more easily. But we also need radicals who are willing to shift the normal in a positive direction. And once radical ideas become normalised, only then do most people take the ideas seriously and evaluate the evidence.
Also I did go and research the claim, and it’s true. Temple Grandin designed modern slaughterhouses with semicircular arcs for the cows to walk down, which match their natural herding behaviour. The serpentine passages minimise visual distractions which spook cows, and then lead to a ramp which takes them to the stunning area. The ramp keeps them from being able to see what’s going on until they’re stunned. And then a human knocks them unconscious with a bolt to the brain and slits their throat.
grrgyle@slrpnk.net 17 hours ago
What tone? I’m not even vegan, but like you said, they’re just saying all true things. Didn’t denigrate meat eaters as people once except to point out our cognitive dissonance, which I think any reasonable person can cop to.
Imho any friction felt in tone or messaging is coming from within (our own minds, about our discomfort with our choices).
makeshift0546@lemmy.today 18 hours ago
Lemmy in a nut shell.
grrgyle@slrpnk.net 17 hours ago
Everything in a nutshell
makeshift0546@lemmy.today 17 hours ago
I disagree. Physical interaction is necessary for real empathy. People should get offline more, volunteer, hangout out with their community. Just seeing a person’s face, even over video conference charges interactions.
Phantaloons@piefed.zip 18 hours ago
It’s also why we can’t move forward.
“Welcome to Lemmy, how leftist are you?”
grrgyle@slrpnk.net 17 hours ago
I’m not sure exactly which policies you’re referring to, but if it’s the main one which is workers owning the tools that produce value, it’s hardly surprising that a bunch of people who weren’t cool with a big centralized corporation making decisions without consulting them would feel that way.
Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 18 hours ago
The answer is also “too much”.
Phantaloons@piefed.zip 9 hours ago
The aye of the bee holder and all that.
zxqwas@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
This made me snort, then nod while thinking “so true” to myself.
ramble81@lemmy.zip 17 hours ago
not_woody_shaw@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
We call that a marriage.
slothrop@lemmy.ca 20 hours ago
wRoNg ReSeArCh!!!
icelimit@lemmy.ml 20 hours ago
Different from me.
Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
Makes me think of I Am Legend
grrgyle@slrpnk.net 17 hours ago
Me
Objection@lemmy.ml 18 hours ago
It’s actually impossible for two people to have different reactions to something, no matter how different their beliefs or life experiences are. There are only two reasons a person might disagree with you are that they’re being paid off by sinister forces or they’re a bot.
grrgyle@slrpnk.net 17 hours ago
I think they’re in love with me but afraid to show it
ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 17 hours ago
Sounds like sinistsr forces.
Or a bot.
Objection@lemmy.ml 16 hours ago
That’s a ridiculous thing to assume just because someone disagrees with you… b-baka!