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  • fleck@lemmy.world ⁚3⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

    I had an argument with my uncle once. In Germany, there is “Pfand” on bottles and soda cans. You pay a little extra when you buy one and when you return it to the “Pfandautomat” you get back the extra amount. He was arguing that this is somehow indoctrination by the state to condition us to follow rules. I have avoided conversations with him since

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    • Viceversa@lemmy.world ⁚3⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

      this is somehow indoctrination by the state to condition us to follow rules

      Will, it is, but that’s not the bad case of it.

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      • fleck@lemmy.world ⁚3⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

        Haha touchĂ©. Maybe I should have added that he is a conspiracy theorist (of the ReichsbĂŒrger kind)

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    • krisevol@lemmus.org ⁚3⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

      In California you pay “crv” of 10 cents on a can, and you really can’t get it back. The can has to be in perfect condition, you can only return a few at a time, and most places don’t even do crv returns. It’s literally a scam that we have accepted.

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      • SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

        What? Why in perfect condition? Aluminum is aluminum. Is only taking a few at a time protecting against fraud or homeless people trying to make some money?

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      • fleck@lemmy.world ⁚3⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

        I would say the German system works pretty well and is well accepted but the outrage when they ruled that the lid on plastic bottles needs to be attached to the bottle was beyond infantile

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    • lechekaflan@lemmy.world ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

      He was arguing that this is somehow indoctrination by the state to condition us to follow rules.

      Has to be trauma of living in a police state.

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  • Bonsoir@lemmy.ca ⁚3⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

    I’m always amazed to think that my life sometimes only holds to a red light and the drivers’ willingness to obey the law. If either were missing, only their will to keep their car clean could save me.

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    • yermaw@sh.itjust.works ⁚3⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

      I got mocked a few times as a kid for waiting until I see the cars stop at the red light before crossing. “Mate you can go, the lights red, they HAVE TO stop!”

      No pal. They’re supposed to stop. Doesn’t mean shit until i see it happen

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      • tiramichu@sh.itjust.works ⁚3⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

        My friend asked why I’m looking both ways before crossing when it’s a one-way street.

        Same deal. It’s legally one-way, but that doesn’t mean there isn’t some impatient dickhead driving down it the wrong way regardless.

        First rule of road safety (as either a pedestrian or a driver) is to assume everyone else on the road is an absolute moron with no ability to drive.

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      • BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁚3⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

        Law of physics versus law of man, physics win every time.

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      • FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world ⁚3⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

        Yeah I wait until the man goes green because there are some crossings at intersections where people will go “Oh but but I have to turn here, so I’m GONNA TURN HERE” and come right throught when it’s clearly red. Maybe they’re allowed to or used to be allowed to. Maybe they only look at the light for the perpendicular intersecting road and don’t realise intersections literally alternate. I hate the drivers where I live.

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      • AbsolutelyClawless@piefed.social ⁚3⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

        Yep, I still check regardless.

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    • GreenShimada@lemmy.world ⁚3⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

      I’ve lived in plenty of places where when the lights worked, they were optional.

      What you’re forgetting is that the other people don’t want to fuck up their car by hitting your car. Usually. Like 98% of the time. It’s the people looking for some mutually assured destruction that are the hazard, and they’re few and far between.

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    • saltesc@lemmy.world ⁚3⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_contract

      It’s why you can go to the store and not worry about being murdered even though there’s nothing preventing that from happening.

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      • Zwiebel@feddit.org ⁚3⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

        It’s more like empathy making people not want to murder others

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      • Bonsoir@lemmy.ca ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

        And the social contract accepts that cars kill pedestrians and cyclists every once in a while for the sake of efficiency. It’s dangerous, it’s legalized murder, and we choose to accept it.

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    • ayyy@sh.itjust.works ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

      It’s not just a cleanliness thing. Skeletons can cause expensive damage.

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    • Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz ⁚3⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

      My first motorcycle accident was swerving around someone who decided to go on red.

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    • placebo@lemmy.zip ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

      Other people is only half of the equation. You have a responsibility to ensure that the cars did in fact stopped.

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  • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁚3⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

    “Heh, fuckin’ sheep.”

    t-bones a minivan full of kids at 60 mph

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  • WereCat@lemmy.world ⁚3⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

    Sometimes I go on the last second of green light and think “that was close!” and then look into a mirror and there are 2 cars and truck behind me.

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    • Zwiebel@feddit.org ⁚3⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

      We call that “dark yellow” around here

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      • Quantenteilchen@discuss.tchncs.de ⁚2⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

        Which, in English, sounds like some cyberpunk band or organisation!

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  • tiramichu@sh.itjust.works ⁚3⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

    I freely formed the considered personal opinion that driving through a red light is a bad idea.

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  • unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de ⁚3⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

    Unironically though. Just use your fucking brain. Sometimes its safe to drive through a red light, sometimes its unsafe to drive through a green light.

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    • ddplf@szmer.info ⁚3⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

      A user by the name unexposedhazard is telling me I should push through the red light. Nah, I ain’t falling for that shit.

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      • unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de ⁚3⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

        In car i would never, because you cant hear or see shit, but on a bike, when there is zero traffic and you can see far down all the roads then why not?

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    • plutopos@lemmy.zip ⁚3⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

      Sometimes its safe to drive through a red light, sometimes its unsafe to drive through a green light.

      What the fuck

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      • T00l_shed@lemmy.world ⁚3⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

        Sometimes it is unsafe to drive through a green light, especially when people like op drive through red lights lol

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  • FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca ⁚3⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

    TRILLIONAIRES SHOULD BE OUTLAWED!

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    • T00l_shed@lemmy.world ⁚3⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

      Billionaires +, but yes

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  • tired_n_bored@lemmy.world ⁚3⁩ ⁚weeks⁩ ago

    SHEEP!

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