I had an argument with my uncle once. In Germany, there is “Pfand” on bottles and soda cans. You pay a little extra when you buy one and when you return it to the “Pfandautomat” you get back the extra amount. He was arguing that this is somehow indoctrination by the state to condition us to follow rules. I have avoided conversations with him since
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fleck@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
Viceversa@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
this is somehow indoctrination by the state to condition us to follow rules
Will, it is, but that’s not the bad case of it.
fleck@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
Haha touché. Maybe I should have added that he is a conspiracy theorist (of the Reichsbürger kind)
krisevol@lemmus.org 6 hours ago
In California you pay “crv” of 10 cents on a can, and you really can’t get it back. The can has to be in perfect condition, you can only return a few at a time, and most places don’t even do crv returns. It’s literally a scam that we have accepted.
fleck@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
I would say the German system works pretty well and is well accepted but the outrage when they ruled that the lid on plastic bottles needs to be attached to the bottle was beyond infantile
Bonsoir@lemmy.ca 14 hours ago
I’m always amazed to think that my life sometimes only holds to a red light and the drivers’ willingness to obey the law. If either were missing, only their will to keep their car clean could save me.
yermaw@sh.itjust.works 14 hours ago
I got mocked a few times as a kid for waiting until I see the cars stop at the red light before crossing. “Mate you can go, the lights red, they HAVE TO stop!”
No pal. They’re supposed to stop. Doesn’t mean shit until i see it happen
BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 minutes ago
Law of physics versus law of man, physics win every time.
tiramichu@sh.itjust.works 13 hours ago
My friend asked why I’m looking both ways before crossing when it’s a one-way street.
Same deal. It’s legally one-way, but that doesn’t mean there isn’t some impatient dickhead driving down it the wrong way regardless.
First rule of road safety (as either a pedestrian or a driver) is to assume everyone else on the road is an absolute moron with no ability to drive.
FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
Yeah I wait until the man goes green because there are some crossings at intersections where people will go “Oh but but I have to turn here, so I’m GONNA TURN HERE” and come right throught when it’s clearly red. Maybe they’re allowed to or used to be allowed to. Maybe they only look at the light for the perpendicular intersecting road and don’t realise intersections literally alternate. I hate the drivers where I live.
AbsolutelyClawless@piefed.social 13 hours ago
Yep, I still check regardless.
GreenShimada@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
I’ve lived in plenty of places where when the lights worked, they were optional.
What you’re forgetting is that the other people don’t want to fuck up their car by hitting your car. Usually. Like 98% of the time. It’s the people looking for some mutually assured destruction that are the hazard, and they’re few and far between.
saltesc@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_contract
It’s why you can go to the store and not worry about being murdered even though there’s nothing preventing that from happening.
Zwiebel@feddit.org 6 hours ago
It’s more like empathy making people not want to murder others
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 12 hours ago
My first motorcycle accident was swerving around someone who decided to go on red.
FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 4 hours ago
TRILLIONAIRES SHOULD BE OUTLAWED!
T00l_shed@lemmy.world 18 minutes ago
Billionaires +, but yes
WereCat@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
Sometimes I go on the last second of green light and think “that was close!” and then look into a mirror and there are 2 cars and truck behind me.
Zwiebel@feddit.org 6 hours ago
We call that “dark yellow” around here
tiramichu@sh.itjust.works 13 hours ago
I freely formed the considered personal opinion that driving through a red light is a bad idea.
unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 14 hours ago
Unironically though. Just use your fucking brain. Sometimes its safe to drive through a red light, sometimes its unsafe to drive through a green light.
ddplf@szmer.info 13 hours ago
A user by the name unexposedhazard is telling me I should push through the red light. Nah, I ain’t falling for that shit.
unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 13 hours ago
In car i would never, because you cant hear or see shit, but on a bike, when there is zero traffic and you can see far down all the roads then why not?
plutopos@lemmy.zip 11 hours ago
Sometimes its safe to drive through a red light, sometimes its unsafe to drive through a green light.
What the fuck
T00l_shed@lemmy.world 19 minutes ago
Sometimes it is unsafe to drive through a green light, especially when people like op drive through red lights lol
tired_n_bored@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
SHEEP!
Kolanaki@pawb.social 11 hours ago
“Heh, fuckin’ sheep.”
t-bones a minivan full of kids at 60 mph