This sounds so fucked up. I hope this is made-up.
Anon files a lawsuit
Submitted 2 weeks ago by Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net to greentext@sh.itjust.works
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fckreddit@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
evol@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
4chan is like reading modern greek myths, its fake but it tells you about the people who wrote it
TootSweet@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It’s 4chan. It’s definitely made up.
Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Honestly…yeah…he probably does have a legitimate lawsuit case.
pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
In 23andme it says the results are for entertainment purposes and not to he used for any actual facts and especially healthcare. So I think they cover their bases to avoid a lawsuit like this
bampop@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I dunno, looks like this dude used it for entertainment purposes
Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Ah. yes. That would do it. Thanks for the info.
allriledup@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
I’m on the fence about this one. On the one hand, everything is made up on 4chinz, but on the other hand, 4chinners are the type of people to fuck their sister. So…
MidsizedSedan@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Can confirm. I’m not on 4chan and I have not fucked my sister.
Walk_blesseD@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Counterpoint: what self-respecting sister would wanna fuck a 4channer?
robocall@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It could be very distressing to receive someone else’s 23andMe results, and confront one’s mother about not being related. It also feels like an invasion of someone else’s privacy to receive their data, and have your own data given to someone else.
I assume a genealogy company like this would write something in the ToS absolving them of any liability if they make mistakes, but would consider reading the fine print, and inquiring about a refund or new test kit. I can’t see how they would be responsible for the incest - that’s on the siblings.
Agent641@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
“Mum would have me believe I’m 75% Scottish but it says here I’m black as the night sky!”
FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Pic related: anon
MrSulu@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
They went straight to sex. He still wants to have sex with his sister. I’d suggest that his own post pulls the rug from under his legal action.
olenkoVD@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Fake but straight
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Fake. Just because you think your sister is adopted, that doesn’t make you good at talking to the opposite sex.
GenonozVotarzPOfS@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
That happened
RalfWausE@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
What does it say about me if I don’t get the drama around the whole incest thing? As long as all involved parties are consenting… who gives a shit?
On the other hand it would really upset me and let me question my parenting if I found out that my son voluntarily sends genetics material to some questionable company…
it_depends_man@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
There are three reasons against incest:
ZeldaFreak@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Genetics and health issues aren’t a big topic now, because of disabilities caused by genes. If your jurisdiction allows for example people with down syndrome to reproduce, you can’t argue about genetic defects by incest, as they are less likely/server. Here politicians did switch their argumentation towards protecting the family, which makes sense but only when they grew up as family. The problem is when siblings didn’t know each other, when they grew up, later fell in love and only then find out they are blood relatives, they legally can’t reproduce. You can’t argue with protecting the family, because they never where family. They don’t see them as brother and sister.
In Germany there is a group who is fighting to legalize it. About consenting, there is a different law in Germany, which protects that. In Germany for the age of consent, we have 3 categories (14, 16 and 18). The one that matters in this context is everything under 18. If one partner is under 18, you can’t fuck them, if you have a specific relation like teacher, family member, guardian. Also this only applies to consent. Rape is still rape.
But to be fair, a lot changed recently and being against incest “just recently” (still over 10 years) weakened their arguments. They don’t reevaluate everything that gets affected by court decisions or law changes, if now something else got weakened in their arguments. Consenting incest not between guardians, aren’t that many. It needs a group to collect facts and arguments and then need to present them but that doesn’t even guarantee politicians to act
unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
They’re adults. That’s all you need to know.
Also, not condoning grooming or whatever.
Agent641@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
What about twins?
FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
You’re kind of right - I think society gets worked up about it in the wrong way, relying on shame to prevent incest, rather than logic.
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TheOne reason it’s not that common is that siblings smell gross and feel gross to have sex with. Most siblings, if they actually tried to initiate sex, would back down very quickly because of those biological inhibitors. One reason that incest is wrong is because it usually manifests as abuse. One participant will be older or stronger than the other. As another commenter said, you can never rule that out, and anyone who finds out bout an incestuous relationship will assume it’s abusive Then the big no-no is inbreeding. You might not produce a child from one instance of intercourse, but it’s unethical because you’d be inflicting a fucked set of genetics onto that hypothetical child. But as weird as it is to say, nowadays you could theoretically practice safe incestuous sexual activity. But then there’s the remaining problem that “you’ll get attached,” and I do think the threat of permanently changing your relationship with one another, making things awkward, is very real. Another remaining problem is that I still see it as A) a response to loneliness, where two relatives who haven’t managed to encounter many mates will resort to each other, or B) a sort of sex addiction, arising if two similar aged relatives used it as a form of sexual experimentationqyron@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
About that smell comment.
There are several registered cases of genetically related people that, unknowing they are related, develop attraction and engage in sexual activity. Some cases even mention the couple being more attracted to each other due to scent.
There’s a small article in Wikipedia here.
Now, for an anecdote: I knew a couple that was genetically related and they only discovered they were siblings because they tried to reconstruct their family tree through official records and things came out off.
They already had two perfectly healthy children when I met them. They kept their blood connection as private as possible but they intended to tell their offspring the whole story when they could understand all of it and its implications.
Now about the incest taboo: I find no issue in consenting adults engaging in sexual activity. Normalizing it, I find deeply troublesome. It would completely inbalance relatioships between family members and wreak havoc in the gene pool.
half_built_pyramids@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
This is the wildest spoiler tag I’ve ever regretted clicking
funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
if we’re being dispassionate - inbreeding increases the risks of genetic issues but by no means guarantees it. Not that I’d recommend it.
leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
There are two main issues with incest: 1) offspring, which should be avoided unless you check the embryos for issues and discard any that would have health problems due to inbreeding, and 2) the possible existence of power dynamics that might make consent too questionable to be acceptable.
Two sufficiently mature (I think this excludes about 90% of the population, but that’s probably my cynicism talking) adults, who have the means to live independently (so no dangerous power dynamics), and at least one of which is naturally or artificially sterile (or who physically can’t have children for other reasons, for instance due to having incompatible genitals), sure, go ahead, have fun.
Otherwise, there’s too much risk of harming one or both of the participants, or their potential offspring.
Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The odds of even siblings having a child with issues are apparently pretty low still, but the issue comes from having several generations of it if it gets normalized. Like the Hapsburgs weren’t even marrying siblings, but did the cousin and second cousin marriages often enough that they ended up with a lot of inbred family members and those distinctive chins and noses.
So rather than needing to look at everyone’s family history to determine whether or not there’s been too much incest that the risk of inbred issues in the offspring is too high, it’s just generally looked down upon, which means the times it happens completely by accident (like two orphan siblings that never met or secret half-sibling affair children), it’s not as big of a deal because the odds of issues are still pretty low.
save_the_humans@leminal.space 2 weeks ago
I think the issue is offspring has an increased likelihood of genetic defects. So its kind of probably always been taboo. Like since humanities inception.
green_copper@kbin.earth 2 weeks ago
Medieval royalty enters the chat.