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  • RalfWausE@feddit.org ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    What does it say about me if I don’t get the drama around the whole incest thing? As long as all involved parties are consenting… who gives a shit?

    On the other hand it would really upset me and let me question my parenting if I found out that my son voluntarily sends genetics material to some questionable company…

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    • FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      You’re kind of right - I think society gets worked up about it in the wrong way, relying on shame to prevent incest, rather than logic.

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      The One reason it’s not that common is that siblings smell gross and feel gross to have sex with. Most siblings, if they actually tried to initiate sex, would back down very quickly because of those biological inhibitors. One reason that incest is wrong is because it usually manifests as abuse. One participant will be older or stronger than the other. As another commenter said, you can never rule that out, and anyone who finds out bout an incestuous relationship will assume it’s abusive Then the big no-no is inbreeding. You might not produce a child from one instance of intercourse, but it’s unethical because you’d be inflicting a fucked set of genetics onto that hypothetical child. But as weird as it is to say, nowadays you could theoretically practice safe incestuous sexual activity. But then there’s the remaining problem that “you’ll get attached,” and I do think the threat of permanently changing your relationship with one another, making things awkward, is very real. Another remaining problem is that I still see it as A) a response to loneliness, where two relatives who haven’t managed to encounter many mates will resort to each other, or B) a sort of sex addiction, arising if two similar aged relatives used it as a form of sexual experimentation

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      • qyron@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

        About that smell comment.

        There are several registered cases of genetically related people that, unknowing they are related, develop attraction and engage in sexual activity. Some cases even mention the couple being more attracted to each other due to scent.

        There’s a small article in Wikipedia here.

        Now, for an anecdote: I knew a couple that was genetically related and they only discovered they were siblings because they tried to reconstruct their family tree through official records and things came out off.

        They already had two perfectly healthy children when I met them. They kept their blood connection as private as possible but they intended to tell their offspring the whole story when they could understand all of it and its implications.

        Now about the incest taboo: I find no issue in consenting adults engaging in sexual activity. Normalizing it, I find deeply troublesome. It would completely inbalance relatioships between family members and wreak havoc in the gene pool.

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      • funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

        if we’re being dispassionate - inbreeding increases the risks of genetic issues but by no means guarantees it. Not that I’d recommend it.

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    • it_depends_man@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      There are three reasons against incest:

      • culture
      • genetics
      • it is impossible to rule out power dynamics and grooming. If they were freely consenting adults it wouldn’t be bad from this point alone, but you can never be sure that they are actually freely consenting.
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      • ZeldaFreak@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Genetics and health issues aren’t a big topic now, because of disabilities caused by genes. If your jurisdiction allows for example people with down syndrome to reproduce, you can’t argue about genetic defects by incest, as they are less likely/server. Here politicians did switch their argumentation towards protecting the family, which makes sense but only when they grew up as family. The problem is when siblings didn’t know each other, when they grew up, later fell in love and only then find out they are blood relatives, they legally can’t reproduce. You can’t argue with protecting the family, because they never where family. They don’t see them as brother and sister.

        In Germany there is a group who is fighting to legalize it. About consenting, there is a different law in Germany, which protects that. In Germany for the age of consent, we have 3 categories (14, 16 and 18). The one that matters in this context is everything under 18. If one partner is under 18, you can’t fuck them, if you have a specific relation like teacher, family member, guardian. Also this only applies to consent. Rape is still rape.

        But to be fair, a lot changed recently and being against incest “just recently” (still over 10 years) weakened their arguments. They don’t reevaluate everything that gets affected by court decisions or law changes, if now something else got weakened in their arguments. Consenting incest not between guardians, aren’t that many. It needs a group to collect facts and arguments and then need to present them but that doesn’t even guarantee politicians to act

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      • unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        you can never be sure that they are actually freely consenting.

        They’re adults. That’s all you need to know.

        Also, not condoning grooming or whatever.

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      • Agent641@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        What about twins?

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    • save_the_humans@leminal.space ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I think the issue is offspring has an increased likelihood of genetic defects. So its kind of probably always been taboo. Like since humanities inception.

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  • FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Pic related: anon

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  • fckreddit@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    This sounds so fucked up. I hope this is made-up.

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    • evol@lemmy.today ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      4chan is like reading modern greek myths, its fake but it tells you about the people who wrote it

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      • ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        And it’s gay as hell

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    • TootSweet@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It’s 4chan. It’s definitely made up.

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    • Zoldyck@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It’s definitely real like everything else online.

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      • fckreddit@lemmy.ml ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        So real fake?

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  • allriledup@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I’m on the fence about this one. On the one hand, everything is made up on 4chinz, but on the other hand, 4chinners are the type of people to fuck their sister. So…

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    • MidsizedSedan@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Can confirm. I’m not on 4chan and I have not fucked my sister.

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  • robocall@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It could be very distressing to receive someone else’s 23andMe results, and confront one’s mother about not being related. It also feels like an invasion of someone else’s privacy to receive their data, and have your own data given to someone else.

    I assume a genealogy company like this would write something in the ToS absolving them of any liability if they make mistakes, but would consider reading the fine print, and inquiring about a refund or new test kit. I can’t see how they would be responsible for the incest - that’s on the siblings.

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    • Agent641@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      “Mum would have me believe I’m 75% Scottish but it says here I’m black as the night sky!”

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