The N in lemmy stands for nuance
The truth about Canada
Submitted 2 years ago by STRIKINGdebate2@lemmy.world to [deleted]
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rbesfe@lemmy.ca 2 years ago
STRIKINGdebate2@lemmy.world 2 years ago
I fail to see the nuance in situations like residential schools. Could you perhaps educate me so I can come to a more informed conclusion than sending thousands of indigenous Canadians to schools designed to stripped them of their culture is a bad thing to do.
JokeDeity@lemm.ee 2 years ago
Oh we’re not even talking about all the ones they straight up murdered and successfully hid for decades in mass graves?
Moneo@lemmy.world 2 years ago
The country has acknowledged the atrocities of residential schools for many years. If you want to criticize the current state of affairs by all means go ahead, but you are not contributing to the discussion in any way by pointing out residential schools were a bad thing.
rbesfe@lemmy.ca 2 years ago
The R in lemmy stands for Reasonable discussion
mayo@lemmy.world 2 years ago
T&R is a thing
too_high_for_this@lemmy.world 2 years ago
There is no nuance in human rights.
Also, this is lemmyshitpost, tf you want
ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 2 years ago
Indigenous rights in Canada is like the silent ‘b’ in doubt
It’s there, no one pronounces it and everyone hates it when they have to write it.
Sheeple@lemmy.world 2 years ago
As someone with English as their second, not first language…
THE B IS SILENT? I ALWAYS PRONOUNCED IT. DID I DO IT WRONG?
IvanOverdrive@lemm.ee 2 years ago
I’ve been living outside of Canada for a number of years now. Up until recently, I actually became more proud of Canada. Patriotic even. I almost convinced myself that Canada had something special that the rest of the world didn’t.
That all came crashing down because of three things:
- Unmarked graves of native kids at former residential schools. 250 in BC. 751 in Saskatchewan. They were just kids. How many more haven’t we found?
- Horsy pigs pointing AR-15s at unarmed Wet’suwet’en protestors. On Wet land. In their own homes. Why? For the gall of protesting against the inevitable environmental disaster that the Coastal GasLink pipeline would bring.
- More horsy pigs letting the convidiots run rampant around Ottawa, and hugging and kissing convidiots at the Alberta border. -
Kid gloves for white people; violence for natives. It crushed me to realize it, but Canada is an ethno-state like any other.
CorruptBuddha@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 years ago
Kid gloves for white people; violence for natives.
Umm… I’m not sure how to approach this, because I’m pretty sure people don’t care about the facts and just want to push whatever political narrative, but here:
news.sky.com/…/people-thought-we-were-scum-forgot…
Also man… The freedom convoy was removed, had their accounts frozen, officers that donated to the convoy were disciplined, and docked pay. At the time I compared it against a pipeline protest by native people, and they were both removed in equal time.
Remember Occupy Wallstreet? Go google Occupy Wallstreet Kettling, and tell me how “handled with kitty gloves” people are.
The thing I can’t stand about all of this is Natives recieve tons of support, and recognition in Canada. Like dude. I’m not saying racism doesn’t exist, and I’m not saying there isn’t generational trauma, and other issues, but just as a matter of fact, in Canada under law Natives aren’t given less, they’re given more.
But fuck reality eh.
countflacula@lemmy.ca 2 years ago
Not sure I’d be confident linking to sky news and using the term “reality”.
xX_fnord_Xx@lemmy.world 2 years ago
It’s called Restitutions. It’s when white people say 'My bad!!’ and bashfully try and make good of the atrocities they have orchestrated in the past against ethnic groups, more often than not half hearted and poorly distributed.
“Oh shit! We massacred your tribe and stole your children? What? The children had their teeth yanked out instead of getting dental care? Soorry, eh. Have a field house for your shitty little park.”
UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca 2 years ago
You lost me at the ethno-state. They are issues to be addressed sure and it’s good to put them on the table instead of shoving them under it but you can’t just cherrypick the worst offenses and conclude ethno-state.
Historical_General@lemm.ee 2 years ago
On the topic of unmarked graves, a good essay: lemm.ee/post/10348169 - aeon.co/…/we-must-not-forget-what-happened-to-the…
And the standing ovation and subsequent apologism for an SS volunteer not withstanding.
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 2 years ago
The internet will always be be telling you that you should hate your own country. No matter which country you’re from, it’s the worst country in the world. Funny how that is.
Grant_M@lemmy.ca 2 years ago
The solution as always is to stop electing ‘conservatives’. All people want to move hard with reparations and reconciliation with the exception of RW politicians and their white supremacist base. We need to outnumber them at the polls until they have no say.
MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 2 years ago
I think “like any other” is the key take away here.
Canada isn’t any better, but for the most part is also not worse than anyone else in these matters.
That’s not to say that we should be excused for doing the bad things (as a culture/society) because other people also do the bad things and sometimes worse bad things… no. Everyone is guilty. It’s a global problem. The names and groups change, the methods change, the outcomes change somewhat, but the story is largely the same regardless of where you go.
The only logical conclusion is that we have a long way to go before the civilization we have built, could be considered “civilized” in any way, shape, or form.
Stanwich@lemmy.world 2 years ago
Oh fuck! Did hey acctually bring up one body yet. Must have missed it.
lemmy_get_my_coat@lemmy.world 2 years ago
What kind of issue does someone have to have to marginally rotate a red legend box?
SkyNTP@lemmy.ca 2 years ago
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Duality_Flag
Check mate.
Th3D3k0y@lemmy.world 2 years ago
Honestly that bit of blue makes the whole thing pop. Looks really good
Betch@lemmy.world 2 years ago
As a French Canadian (Acadian), I don’t mind it either. It’s a nice looking flag. Something about the blue being proportional to the French speaking population kinda irks me though.
phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 years ago
That… actually honestly makes it look better. No politics intended, just saying that it looks nice
Oderus@lemmy.world 2 years ago
Looks like a hockey rink
explodicle@local106.com 2 years ago
Man, your blue stripe flag is much nicer than our blue stripe flag.
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 2 years ago
…why is the bottom 50 pixels or so cut off the image?
DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 2 years ago
The deep state censored it
Neon@lemmy.world 2 years ago
meme was probably stolen and the name of the original creator cut out
Moc@lemmy.world 2 years ago
Contains the fourth thing Canada is comprised of…
OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 2 years ago
Sharp angles?
Resol@lemmy.world 2 years ago
The purple in China’s flag stands for freedom
twopi@lemmy.ca 2 years ago
China has the CCP not the PPC
PM_ME_FEET_PICS@sh.itjust.works 2 years ago
PPC is the only real China. CCP are fakes.
joel1974@lemmy.world 2 years ago
[deleted]Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 years ago
Some just dont have to look very hard
mathemachristian@lemm.ee 2 years ago
The leaf hides a bunch if Nazi runes.
Colour_me_triggered@lemm.ee 2 years ago
Runes are not nazi. Use by Nazis is misappropriation of Norse mythology.
TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 2 years ago
so is the swastika but you still get banned from Minecraft servers for building one at spawn 😡
PM_ME_FEET_PICS@sh.itjust.works 2 years ago
Canada influenced the Nazis, not the other way around.
Colour_me_triggered@lemm.ee 2 years ago
Unlikely, seeing as Canada didn’t achieve full legal autonomy until 1982.
jelloeater85@lemmy.world 2 years ago
I really think y’all should just let that one marinate.
Soleos@lemmy.world 2 years ago
Is this a shitpost because blue actually represents the Quebecois who view themselves as oppressed the way they oppressed Indigenous People, for whom orange/yellow/black/red/white are more representative colours?
BadPoopSmell@lemm.ee 2 years ago
I think I have to poop
notatoad@lemmy.world 2 years ago
That’s not fair. It was only last weekend we had a national holiday to celebrate how we treated the natives.
CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 2 years ago
We crammed it into the calendar immediately before Thanksgiving, where we celebrate what we did to the natives.
WhipTheLlama@lemmy.world 2 years ago
Despite all the awful things that settlers have done to Aboriginals in Canada (and Native Americans in the USA), neither country’s Thanksgiving is about that. Canada’s Thanksgiving was originally a celebration of arrival in the New World. Over time, it became a harvest celebration.
flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works 2 years ago
… Is that a celebration or a remembrance?
notatoad@lemmy.world 2 years ago
I mean, if you give people a long weekend they’re gonna celebrate.
jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 2 years ago
I bought a medium mocha with orange sprinkles from Starbucks in solidarity.
CoderKat@lemm.ee 2 years ago
Which half the provinces don’t even recognize (as in, not a stat holiday). Not that it really matters that much. No problem has ever been solved by merely declaring a holiday and there’s no shortage of shitty actions speaking louder than any holiday could.