This is the asshole who presided over a significant portion of the enshittification of both Xbox and Blizzard, so we know exactly what his opinion is worth
Xbox ditching hardware and exclusive games "makes sense," former Microsoft exec and Blizzard boss says, as "only a moron would continue" making consoles as games go third party
Submitted 2 months ago by Agent_Karyo@piefed.world to games@lemmy.world
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AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Agent_Karyo@piefed.world 2 months ago
I would argue that this actually makes his opinion more relevant, as executive management is more likely to think like Ybarra, as opposed to someone that regrets the decline of Blizzard.
AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Know your corporate overlord, eh?
chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Nice idea to make Xbox and PC one platform, but given how badly the ROG Xbox handheld was implemented (since you can’t play Xbox games on this “Xbox”), good luck with that.
Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 2 months ago
Doesn’t it fully support GamePass? Doesn’t GamePass have all the XBox games?
scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 2 months ago
Problem isn’t that, since the handheld is just running windows it can only run games with a PC release. If the game was never ported to PC they currently have no way to play it. They really thought through the whole release real well.
ICastFist@programming.dev 2 months ago
Yes. Kinda. Some games from the X1 era aren’t available on PC, like Halo 5. X360 games that are backwards compatible but weren’t actually released for PC, like Red Dead Redemption, won’t be available either.
MeekerThanBeaker@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I would love it if I could play all my Xbox games on any PC that has the correct specs.
If I have to keep game pass to play the games I purchased then we’ll have a problem.
purplemonkeymad@programming.dev 2 months ago
I kind hated whenever i was looking at solutions to running pc game pass games on my steam deck, everyone was like: “install edge it works on Linux, that will let you stream the game.”
Like, that was not what I was looking for. It also required you to go to a higher tier of sub.
Both happy and sad that I already canceled it.
Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
Emulation General Wiki Check the Xbox category section.
If you have physical media there are ways to rip them using a commodity DVD/Bluray drive so you can back them up, load them in the emulator, and prevent data rot on the actual disks.
troed@fedia.io 2 months ago
Hate to agree but yeah. We're buying everything for Steam now since we put a Steambox (Bazzite) in the gaming room. The PS5s are now just legacy boxes.
Lfrith@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
That would be the case for techy people like us, but growing number of people cant handle anything more complicated than a phone OS these days that I think consoles will continue to have a purpose.
troed@fedia.io 2 months ago
I find SteamOS to be as un-complicated as any other modern console tbh.
ampersandrew@lemmy.world 2 months ago
By the numbers, that demographic appears to be shrinking, not growing. PC has grown while consoles have shrunk.
Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
Yay! Make sure to check out some of the cool couch gaming indies - Enter the Gungeon and Duck Game are some of my favorites.
Brkdncr@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Open source “Xbox”:
- Peg the performance requirements and a utility to verify them.
- Allow devs to build games with those specs in mind.
- filter in the store for games built for that spec.
Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
"We have steam deck verification at home"
- Microsoft (in a year)
ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 2 months ago
So what is Microsoft going to be doing?
ADTJ@feddit.uk 2 months ago
Buying the successful studios to obtain their IP and then sacking all the employees to cut costs.
ICastFist@programming.dev 2 months ago
Copilot on PS5, somehow
Dozzi92@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Slapping that ™®© on it and raising the price.
ClassyHatter@sopuli.xyz 2 months ago
Xbox consoles have been mostly sold out in Finland. Some retailers still have some stock left, mostly Series S, but it seems that Microsoft has exited Finland.
FalseTautology@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
You didn’t miss anything significant in since like Halo Reach.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
Like Nintendo, who still sue emulators.
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Meta Quest was the last innovative games console.
brsrklf@jlai.lu 2 months ago
Quest is cheap and good hardware, but its software layer is dystopian hell. Obviously, I mean, it’s meta.
I love the cheap access to decent PC and embedded VR on my quest 3, I absolutely hate this OS and its constant corporate spam. I know, this is kinda why its so cheap. Doesn’t mean I have to like it.
ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
Yeah, I didn’t think an OS could feel more skeezy than Windows until I got a Quest 3.
A shame too, cause it’s legitimately great hardware.
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Totally agree. At the moment the Meta involvement is tolerable, but all it takes is a couple of forced ads or intrusive personal information demands.
FalseTautology@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
Isn’t buying a quest giving money to Zuckerberg directly? I don’t think I could sleep at night
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 2 months ago
They are sold at a loss, so you are technically stealing from Zuckerberg directly.
fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 2 months ago
So consoles are basically becoming branded gaming pcs?
CosmoNova@lemmy.world 2 months ago
They kind of been for a while. At least architecture wise but with the new Xbox ROG handheld you can access your steam library or install a different OS like Bazzite altogether. You can‘t play your Xbox games on it though, which probably means the days of Xbox as a console are over. But Xbox players must‘ve known they won‘t be able to transfer their game library to new device anyway.
Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
Not all Xbox players, clearly. With Microsoft doubling down on not having any physical media containing the full retail game on disk from Xbox 1 onwards, every one of those accounts are hosed unless they have an archive of all the downloaded files needed.
My advice to them - mod your consoles (360 and below) if you have them, rip your discs, and get ready for when Xbox services (for console hardware) are sunset.
Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
Have been since the 8th generation, unless you count Nintendo, whose 8th gen was a PowerPC (Mac), and 9th gen onward is a glorified Android phone with a dedicated GPU.
Agent_Karyo@piefed.world 2 months ago
I guess it depends on how you define PC. But older consoles also used CPUs that were found in desktops (and laptops), although they weren't PCs in the strict sense.
Consoles did often have custom GPUs though.
That being said, these days both Playstation and Xbox are literally locked down, custom form factor, AMD Ryzen CPU + Radeon GPU PCs.
Flamekebab@piefed.social 2 months ago
Mac haven’t used PowerPC since 2005.
Anarch157a@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
All 3 consoles of that generation (PS 3, Xbox 360 and Wii) used custom PowerPC cores suplied by IBM.
Before anyone says anything, Yes, the Cell CPU on the PS3 had a PPC core paired with 7 vectorual units, so it counts.
ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
The PS Triple/360 generation was the last time that wasn’t the case
RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 2 months ago
They kinda always were, tbh. Just with some kinda of unique limitation that prevented them from being used for any purpose other than playing a specific brand of video game.
teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 2 months ago
More accurately, PCs are becoming consoles, but yes, they want to converge it all into a locked down hardware as a service industry.
Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
Microsoft approved PCs are becoming consoles.
ICastFist@programming.dev 2 months ago
The Amiga dream is finally coming true
rozodru@piefed.social 2 months ago
I believe if a new generation of consoles are released they’re just going to be glorified streaming boxes. Sony has pretty much hit a plateau as far as graphics go, there’s not much you can improve upon now. And sure people are cancelling and complaining about gamepass but Microsoft might just go the route of “we’ll tell you what you want, and if you want this exclusive you’ll have no choice but to subscribe”.
So you’ll pay for this streaming box, you’ll get maybe a couple months of the subscription for free, then you’ll pay $30 to $50 a month to get access to their catalog. Sony and Nintendo will follow suite. If you want to actually “own” anything you’ll play on PC and even then that’s truly up for debate. Like do you actually own the content you buy on Steam?
Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 2 months ago
That’s why piracy is also an option.
Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
Steam as a platform is easy to crack (that’s why so many steam game repacks circulate), but there’s a degree of expected stability due to their reputation for the Steam platform’s longevity built over two decades. Additionally, their status as a private company with no external pressure puts them ahead of MS, Sony, and Nintendo in terms of future turbulence.
rafoix@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
No, just the Xbox.