it is not completely useless as it seems to give an accurate portrayal of geopolitical boundaries at the time.
Electricity Consumption
Submitted 5 weeks ago by fossilesque@mander.xyz to science_memes@mander.xyz
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tallricefarmer@sopuli.xyz 5 weeks ago
jayemar@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Agreed, I just wish they’d labeled that countries, or whatever the equivalents were
merc@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
It would be interesting (if the data was available) to see the energy consumption in Europe at that time: windmills, horses drawing carts, cooking fires, etc.
addie@feddit.uk 5 weeks ago
Visited a traditional water-powered flour mill recently. Very cool, beautiful building, and the end product makes really delicious bread and pasta. Wholemeal, not too fine, nothing in it but grain. Perfection.
From the water flow, drop and wheel turning rate, I made the maximum possible power as about 5 kW. Probably optimistic to think you’d get a quarter of that in practice. Still, that’s a huge amount compared to what a person can produce, and it’s ‘on tap’ 24 hours a day. That kind of thing does explain why, in the days before electrification, that having ‘the right landscape’ made some areas really wealthy and some others not. Exploitable renewable energy, what a concept.
So yeah, your proposed map would be really interesting. The Romans burned down whole forests to make steel - you simply couldn’t refine it in a place without. It would be fascinating to see the map of “power resources” and the resulting industries, even if it would be very hypothetical.
merc@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Yeah, that’s exactly what I was thinking about. I think in the modern world we underestimate how much “power” was being used on a daily basis before the industrial revolution. The main thing the industrial revolution gave the world is the potential to have constant, predictable power in a location that was convenient.
Windmills and water mills could be pretty powerful. But, as you said, location was everything. And, in the case of wind, it wasn’t always predictable. And in map form, it would be really cool to know where that power was being generated, and what effect that might have had on another kind of power: political power.
Bloomcole@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
You forgot the various forms of slavery
tetris11@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
Aren’t those metrics tied more to economic output than anything that could be converted to KWh?
Eq0@literature.cafe 5 weeks ago
Somehow, the fact that it’s set in 1507 instead of 1500 really tickles me! Like, you wouldn’t believe how much changed in those 7 years!
hanke@feddit.nu 5 weeks ago
Yeah, cool and all, but what are the blue areas?
ladicius@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Eel.
tetris11@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
if yellow is electricity consumption, then blue is water consumption.
Fascinating that it’s remained constant even till today
Phineaz@feddit.org 5 weeks ago
Also great: A heads-per-capita count of every country!
nexguy@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
It would be useful to see electricity consumption by source. A breakdown by hydro, fossil fuels, nuclear…etc would be more useful.
ohwhatfollyisman@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
i dunno. with all those carpets and tapestries, there must have been some static sparks somewhere!
vale@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Western Sahara with the rare reporting in.
iamdefinitelyoverthirteen@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
This is fake. I’ve seen maps from that time, and they looked a lot different than this one.
Jankatarch@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Rabbit hole time.
So there actually was some electrical research being conducted in 1705, but it was all static electricity. It could be argued that there was a non-zero amount generated and consumed, but it’s really, really small. ChatGPT threw out a value of “20 milliwatts” for this, citing that it was “about the power of a dim LED”.
x0x7@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
This reminds me of the classic. What did communists use before candles?
buttnugget@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I think it really depends on how much eel they were eating.
Kolanaki@pawb.social 5 weeks ago
Does it count if the Earth consumes lightning strikes in that area?
MourningDove@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
I’d love to see that slipped into a history book!
Zerush@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
What about China?
RobotZap10000@feddit.nl 5 weeks ago
This map is very inaccurate, as it neglects those who had consumed electrical energy through lightning striking them. That cooked flesh didn’t come for free!
x00z@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
It also neglects rubbing on some fabrics and shocking friends and family with the charged static electricity.
some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 5 weeks ago
Those people were condemned as witches. Best not to think about it.
reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net 5 weeks ago
We have a bit of electricity in our nervous systems too, yes?
Bloomcole@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Ancient civilizations, including the Egyptians, Greeks, and Romans, used electric fish for medical treatments.
Thales of Miletus discovered static electricity (600 BC) by rubbing amber and observing its ability to attract light objects.
Coolbeanschilly@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
They just took the aggregate population, and rounded down based on kWh.
ladicius@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
That’s not consumption, that’s agony.