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Watch: Billionaire CEO says unemployment 'has to jump' to put 'arrogant' workers in their place

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https://www.rawstory.com/tim-gurner-video/

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  • Arekdirithe@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I remember when I was younger, having low unemployment was considered a good thing, universally desired it seemed. Only in late stage capitalism is it a requirement that we have people who can’t find a job so the working class doesn’t get too uppity.

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    • squiblet@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      More people are supposed to not have jobs, but at the same time, not be collecting unemployment or public assistance. So basically… go panhandle, live in a tent city, go to prison, or I guess just die is their suggestion.

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      • MonkRome@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        If they died or went to prison then unemployment would go back down. The truth is they have no intelligent solutions and their economic beliefs are all make believe.

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    • stilgar@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      This effect was analysed in great detail by Marx in the 19th century, so it’s not a characteristic of late stage capitalism, just of capitalism.

      His term “Reserve army of labour” refers to the unemployed.

      Taking them as a whole, the general movements of wages are exclusively regulated by the expansion and contraction of the industrial reserve army…

      From Capital by Marx

      en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reserve_army_of_labour

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    • HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Low unemployment is a good thing- to a certain percentage (3% i think?). Not 0%.

      People are arguing saying we expect some people living it tents - no, we expect to have people unemployed for a short time while they swap jobs, or seasonal workers out of season, or new grads looking for their first role.

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      • DDNB@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        A good thing for who exactly?

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      • spez_@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Say that to the 3% in person

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  • Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Someone should unemploy him, you know, to help his numbers.

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    • NumbersCanBeFun@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’m not sure now unemploying him would help me, but I’m on board.

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      • Nougat@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Laughter is the best medicine?

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    • Vaggumon@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Should be un something for sure.

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    • Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Unemployment is a luxury that the rich can afford more of.

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  • OGKludge@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Fuck this cunt

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    • flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      In the face…

      Repeatedly…

      With a brick!

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      • Contort3860@links.hackliberty.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Or An Anchor!

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  • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Unemployment has to jump 40 to 50 percent, in my view. We need to see some pain in the economy. We need to remind people that they work for the employer, not the other way around

    What a fucking asshole! True “we need to show those uppity peasant who’s boss” energy 🤬

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    • NoNotLikeThat@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Sounds like he’s mad he can’t afford as many yachts.

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      • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Absolutely

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      • ours@lemmy.film ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        If you can’t put your yacht on a bigger yacht, how is life worth living?

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    • Luvs2Spuj@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Employee and employer work TOGETHER. I would love to meet this guy in person, real let them eat cake energy. Anyway, where’s my guillotine sharpener.?

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      • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Employee and employer work TOGETHER

        Sounds like commie talk to me. How long have you been a member of the Communist Party of America? /s

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    • newthrowaway20@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      When we have nothing to lose, then we have no problem eating the billionaires.

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    • Honytawk@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The thing is, the workers work for money, not for the employer.

      The employer is just a middleman that can easily be replaced.

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      • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Absolutely! Image

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    • rainynight65@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Spoken like someone who has never been an employee, much less experienced actual poverty.

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      • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        You talking about me? Because you’d be wrong on both counts. That’s part of why I despise greedy and power-hungry billionaires (but I repeat myself) like him…

        Or did you mean him?

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    • Cruxifux@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      If billionaires ruined the economy in such a way that 50 percent of people couldn’t afford to feed their families then I like to think that people would simply eat the billionaires.

      But that’s wishful thinking and seeing how people interact in public and online makes me think that way too many people still think billionaires are awesome.

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      • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        If billionaires ruined the economy in such a way that 50 percent of people couldn’t afford to feed their families

        What do you mean “if”? They’re well on the way already and it’s getting worse, not better.

        then I like to think that people would simply eat the billionaires.

        Problem with that is that owning everything also includes bodyguards and even de facto private armies.

        way too many people still think billionaires are awesome.

        Unfortunately you’re absolutely right.

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  • BlackNo1@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    i think this guys face should meet a crowbar

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    • Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      That’s a weird way to spell guillotine

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    • SighBapanada@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It looks like it already has

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      • keeb420@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        well since he failed to learn from it maybe they should repeat the lesson.

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  • JokeDeity@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I hope this isn’t a bannable comment, but someone needs to bring out the fucking guillotine for these fucks.

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  • Honytawk@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    We should indeed have more unemployed people, since we should strive to a world where nobody has to work anymore.

    Implement Universal Basic Income.

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    • LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Or we could just get rid of money and everyone gets what they need? Like, money is just something we made up.

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      • newthrowaway20@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Good luck getting anyone means to give up something without getting something.

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      • Aux@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Welcome to North Korea!

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    • WhipTheLlama@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Where would UBI come from if nobody is working?

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      • uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Automated production.

        It is easier to see the extinction of humanity than the end of capitalism. But if we cannot imagine the end of capitalism we will see the extinction of humanity.

        Eventually, though (as Sophie From Mars speculates) the population will be reduced to where the USD and EU are meaningless, and the remaining bands act more like mutual aid.

        The question is if humanity has been reduced by then to tens of millions, or thousands.

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  • pirrrrrrrr@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    This is the original “stop eating smashed avocado on toast” guy.

    This guy need to improve the planet by being a lot less alive.

    About 100% less should do the trick.

    I live in his city and I will not hesitate to tip my $6.50 latte over his narcissistic noggin, should the opportunity arise.

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  • SinningStromgald@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    What is it with property developers and being brainless dicks?

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    • Sanctus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      People having been throwing shit on plots of land since the beginning of time. It probably scratches that sweet spot of little thought and a lot of money that most people seem to be after.

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      • squiblet@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        “passive income!” when they talk to each other, but tons of hard work when described to anyone else.

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    • Aceticon@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Property developers have been activelly helped by governments and central banks for at least 2 decades who have done all sorts of things to rig the housing markets to always go up, even though to owner-occupiers higher prices are almost never a good thing (sure, the house is worth more, but if you try and cash it in by moving, any other house you buy or rent is also more expensive, so you gain nothing from your home having a higher valuation).

      A guy his age has spent his entire life getting the message from top politicians and bankers that his economic activities are more important than just about all others and get rewarded no matter what (it really is a “no skill needed, just lots of starting money”, so it’s only natural if he behaves accordingly.

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  • princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Unemployment needs to jump 40-50%??? Is this guy seriously that utterly disconnected with reality? In Aus it’s never hit more than 12% in the last 4 decades, the economy would just collapse if unemployment got that high. It only got to 32% during the Great Depression in the US.

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    • joel@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      That’s the difference between percentage and percentage points. If the unemployment rate were 5% then a 50% increase would make it 7.5%

      An increase of 50 percentage points would make it 55%

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    • correcthorsedickbatterystaple@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      utterly disconnected with reality

      is there another way to accumulate that amount of wealth?

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      • Otome-chan@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        If unemployment is 10%, then the actual amount of people who aren't employed anywhere is 50%. Because the laborforce participation rate is only 60% of the population.

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    • hitmyspot@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I think he means 40 to 50% higher than now. It’s historically quite low at the moment.

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      • squiblet@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        It is low now, but also (in the US) the last few administrations played games with how they defined it, mainly by excluding people who had basically given up on finding employment.

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    • wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I was baffled by that comment. Did he mean 40-50% higher or 40-50%. Huge difference.

      If I understand his business correctly, that amount of unemployment would cause him to fail

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      • ribboo@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        His wording means it should increase 40-50%. Not that it should be 40-50%.

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    • wholeofthemoon@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Do you know what percentages are?

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  • vagrantprodigy@lemmy.whynotdrs.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Stock market needs to go down to put arrogant Billionaire in their place.

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    • sturmblast@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      that hurts a lot more people than just billionaires

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      • Honytawk@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        So does the unemployment rate going up.

        But at least it hurts billionaires, which the whole world can cheer about.

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      • vagrantprodigy@lemmy.whynotdrs.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        The ruling class has clearly shown that the economy and the stock market are not as interconnected as they have been in the past. The markets are terribly inflated, it NEEDS to go down, or the eventual crash is going to be 1920’s bad.

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  • Lianodel@ttrpg.network ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    “We need to see unemployment rise,” he argued. “Unemployment has to jump 40 to 50 percent, in my view. We need to see some pain in the economy. We need to remind people that they work for the employer, not the other way around… There’s been a systemic change where the employees feel that the employer is extremely lucky to have them, as opposed to the other way around.”

    You love to see it.

    Also, lots of comments about guillotines here. We might get some concern trolls about that, but at the very least, it sure is a problem when a billionaire like Tim feels like he can say something so outrageous without any consequences.

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    • uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Funny thing that we witnessed in Iran: Violence is not the answer until the very hour it is.

      Law enforcement in Georgia are attacking mutual aid stations. They’re recognizing and harassing the non-violent methods we would affect change.

      And the billionaires are telling us they’d have us starve if we refuse to live as bonded servants.

      This is how civil wars start.

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      • ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        People become violent when they no options for anything. The Syrian Civil War is a prefect example of this, in the lead up the civil war, there was economic polices that benefited a select few people, intense drought that drove food prices up for the common people, and a lack of way to show anger in a healthy democratic way (strikes, protests, etc.), lead to a lot of anger. The anger eventually exploded causing a civil war.

        Right now, we all have a cost of living crisis ongoing, lack of political leadership to resolve these issues, and growing wealth inequality. The next global recession is going to have lot of angry people, who’s only options are going to be die a slow death or do something and maybe die a slow death.

        When it happens remember to direct your anger at the right groups of people, political leaders who championed the status quo for corporations and billionaires, talking heads who tell us to be “grateful”, and corporations and billionaires focused on wealth hoarding. These people got us into this mess and will gladly leave all of us to sink if it means they get to keep their dirty hands on power.

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    • SwedishFool@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I hope he loses everything he has, and if he doesn’t, I hope people steal what’s left.

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    • MojoMcJojo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Any consequences! Exactly that. I’m sick of this rich man culture of fuck you I got mine. There needs to be a systematic change where the rich feel that they are extremely lucky to be allowed to horde so much and keep there heads. They’ve grown lazy and arrogant. Consequences for your selfish actions!

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  • wokehobbit@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Can we bring out the guillotines already? Serious.

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    • Raiderkev@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      youtu.be/TMHCw3RqulY?si=aKbrAM6bikTzJEMY

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    • RVGamer06@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      www.youtube.com/watch?v=hH5V2uqiSXc

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  • Son_of_dad@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The guillotine building industry has to jump to put these corporate dirtbags in their place

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  • barttier@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Rich people are loosing the fear of workers that was deeply ingrained in their DNA by the french. They should be afraid again. Maybe pinata economy is the most logic way to go.

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  • beefcat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Arrogant billionaire complains about having to operate in a free market. Oh the irony…

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  • keeb420@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    i hate these greedflation causing piece of shits. complete and total arrogance. admiral klancy said it best

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  • Peddlephile@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Lol. I actually read the article and it’s Tim fucking Gurner.

    I’ve got friends who work as consultants for his projects and it’s more of a “do as I say” relationship. He buys up properties and then turns them into “luxury” apartments or hotels for his rich mates.

    He’s part of our affordable housing crisis.

    And he goes on to make this statement. Good grief.

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  • MisterD@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Billionaire has to jump…

    Off a cliff

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  • vrojak@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Pierre
    Get the guillotine

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  • Sanctus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    We should put arrogant CEOs in their place.

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  • pizzahoe@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    These retarded rich fucks don’t really understand that the only reason society is not killing them yet is because many people have a shitty job which can at least feed them. You take that away and motherfucker hungry people will revolt.

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  • BeautifulMind@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    But if you consider the counter-argument, maybe arrogant billionaires need to be reminded again that the deal by which they wouldn’t be dragged out of their homes and beaten senseless in front of their families was that they’d pay a living wage and deal with unions and submit to antitrust regulations

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  • ilickfrogs@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I really do think it’s time to break out the guillotines.

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  • alienanimals@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Unemployed Aussies should show up at his house.

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  • pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    As much as I bitch about Lemmy, I am glad to be on a platform where we can openly advocate to put the aristocracy in guillotines without getting banned or otherwise punished for it.

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  • HansSlonzok@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    as we know… good billionaire is dead billionaire

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  • MojoMcJojo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Another parasite sucking up all of our resources for itself.

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  • zcd@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    We should seize all his shit

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  • stopthatgirl7@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    On the plus side, people on both sides of the aisle hate this dude.

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