The official report back to the Uk government was even worse than the sanitised stuff we got on TV. Even the Chinese government don’t know how many were killed.
Happy anniversary of the day absolutely nothing happened at nowhere square!
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Blackmist@feddit.uk 9 hours ago
Diurnambule@jlai.lu 8 hours ago
This shit is an heavy read… I profoundly dislike it.
cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 8 hours ago
nexguy@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
“the same number of violent deaths as on any random weekend in the United States.”
Use critical thinking here. Even if this is the number, it is equating the violent deaths at a single location to the total number of violent deaths in the entire United States over a weekend. This one little tidbit lets you know of the angle of the article and the misinformation it tries to hide in plain sight.
TheFrirish@jlai.lu 3 hours ago
Lol asking a .ml to use critical thinking… Good luck with that.
nico198x@europe.pub 7 hours ago
you are despicable. seek help and stop boot licking authoritarians
isolatedscotch@discuss.tchncs.de 7 hours ago
THE MYTH OF THE “Tiananmen Square massacre”
immediatly clicked off, and instance checks out
cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 7 hours ago
it’s not a particularly long post; if you’re really confident in the veracity of the narrative you’re familiar with then you shouldn’t need to be afraid to read something that contradicts it.
(and btw, neither of the two posts i linked claims nothing happened there.)
kamen@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
Why don’t you ask the kids at Tiananmen square
was
fashionnothing the reason why they were therekingshrubb@lemmy.ml 15 hours ago
Doesn’t the United States do a similar thing in weaponizing the police against its own citizens? U.S. police violence against protesters, police killings of black and brown people, police killing of mentally ill people. Using military surplus weapons from Iraq and war tactics against its own citizens (LRAD weapons, mass arrests, tear gas).(Kent State Shooting, Civil Rights Movement, George Floyd protests, Occupy Wall Street, Palestine protests).
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 hours ago
Not even comparable. Scroll up to the top and read the report from the British Government and then tell me that they’re the same.
0x0@lemmy.zip 6 hours ago
Not yet.
pineapplelover@lemm.ee 12 hours ago
Yeah but they don’t actively try to wipe it out of history and build a big firewall
Objection@lemmy.ml 8 hours ago
When Kent State happened, surveys showed an overwhelming majority of Americans blamed the students for getting shot more than they blamed the guard for shooting them. There were all sorts of fake news stories going around on TV about how the protests were filled with outside agitators doing things like putting LSD in the water supply. It was only once the opportunity for a reaction was safely past that they said, “Oopsie, we made a mistake.” There have been many other cases where the government and media lied until it determined it was safe enough to tell the truth, including the justifications for several major wars.
blackris@discuss.tchncs.de 12 hours ago
Not yet.
Godric@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
Jk, that shit happens, but when it does it becomes massive news stories instead of being suppressed, and it is allowed to have ripple effects across politics and society instead of the government imprisoning anyone who mentions abuses.
kingshrubb@lemmy.ml 3 hours ago
I’m watching the US government running interference for Israel and arresting students for being anti-genocide/ pro-Palestine. Legacy corporate media burying articles on Palestine and Israeli war crimes on US gov’t behalf. Legacy corporate media lying about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq as a pretense to invade and later laundering and resurrecting war criminal George W. Bush’s reputation after the war. Corporate media’s suppression of Biden’s senility while in office and now Jake Tapper is on a propaganda tour saying what everyone knew all along even though Democratic party insiders would straight up lie about it.
Not saying China good. Obviously what they did is awful. I’m saying the US is also not great.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 hours ago
but when it does it becomes massive news stories instead of being suppressed, and it is allowed to have ripple effects across politics and society instead of the government imprisoning anyone who mentions abuses.
To be fair, someone else replied to mention the Tulsa Race Massacre… Something that I (and every American I’ve spoken to about it) did not know existed prior to seeing the Watchmen TV series.
gens@programming.dev 13 hours ago
Tulsa 1921
napkin2020@sh.itjust.works 10 hours ago
So U.S. can keep doing so?
sleepycapibara@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
This reminds me of this other Simpson little jewel youtu.be/Vx0tkoJY_mk
Fizz@lemmy.nz 1 day ago
This is so sinophobic! Dont you know that never happened and if it did it was because of America and capitalism.
celeryfc@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Explain please
umbrella@lemmy.ml 3 hours ago
attempted color revolution
Fizz@lemmy.nz 1 day ago
Its not serious. I’m just poking fun at the tankies who would defend the event by claiming it didnt happen then say but if it did happen america was behind it.
NosferatuZodd@lemmy.world 1 day ago
probably referring to this I didn’t check the sources myself but this does feel very convincing especially with the longer tank man video which doesn’t fit the narrative I always hear for the picture
pyre@lemmy.world 1 day ago
throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I can’t believe the mods and admins allow such a racist meme to stay up.
Ralph being yellow while talking about the Chinese with the red seats is more than just a dog whistle.
nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 1 day ago
I do think that you’ll eventually be held up there with the likes of Ken M. for your contributions to the art of classical trolling.
FireIced@lemmy.super.ynh.fr 1 day ago
Started bad but ended beautifully
Also nice username
flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Brilliant trust, well done!
AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com 1 day ago
.world lemmitors living in western countries on the verge of fascism really be shaking to post anticommunist CIA propaganda on their favourite day of the year
breecher@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Tankies unable to fathom that you can be critical of both fascism and the authoritarian state capitalism which is China.
AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com 1 day ago
Being critical of the communist state which relieved 800 million people from extreme poverty over the suppression of a western-sponsored color revolution while fascism disintegrates the EU and US
Zwiebel@feddit.org 1 day ago
calamityjanitor@lemmy.world 1 day ago
This is why I find this stuff so bewildering, even Wikipedia says no one died in the square. It was hectic around Mudixi, with buses of soldiers being torched and the burnted bodies being strung up. People there were absolutely shot at and killed.
It was an insane week with a lot happening, many different groups with their own motives, and so many details unclear. It’s weird that anti China rhetoric insists on something that didn’t happen, pushing a false narrative that’s so easy to dispell and distracts from the real violence and politics of the time.
isolatedscotch@discuss.tchncs.de 7 hours ago
even Wikipedia says no one died in the square.
The Chinese Red Cross had given a figure of 2,600 deaths but later denied having given such a figure.[16][17] The Swiss Ambassador had estimated 2,700.[18] Nicholas D. Kristof of The New York Times wrote on 21 June that "it seems plausible that about a dozen soldiers and policemen were killed, along with 400 to 800 civilians.
cepelinas@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
For me wikipedia says that at least a few hundred died, can you show me where wikipedia said no one died?
FireIced@lemmy.super.ynh.fr 1 day ago
While I agree that it is not known, saying that it’s the Tiananmen Square massacre is a relatively harmless simplification, as there were dead people nearby and they originally were there.
throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
with buses of soldiers being torched and the burnted bodies being strung up.
Soldiers are legitimate targets btw.
Thteven@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Finally, a meme I can post on grad
FireIced@lemmy.super.ynh.fr 1 day ago
When you love danger:
CaJoasca_Baloon@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
I looked down at the comments… not surprised. :p
HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 days ago
Most people were killed when the tanks were on their way towards the square and not in it. So the student would have technically already been dead before it reached Tiananman
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 6 hours ago
What is Tiananmen square? I tried asking on reddit and got banned.
Notyou@sopuli.xyz 4 hours ago
It’s when a guy with a couple grocery bags beat up a tank.
wabafee@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
I think it’s a cake or some kind of dish.