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Vampire Survivors devs launch official wiki "free of ads, banners, and all of the junk that gets in your way"

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Submitted ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨tonytins@pawb.social⁩ to ⁨games@lemmy.world⁩

https://www.gamesradar.com/games/roguelike/vampire-survivors-devs-launch-official-wiki-free-of-ads-banners-and-all-of-the-junk-that-gets-in-your-way-joining-stardew-valley-and-terraria-in-community-wikis-with-minimal-intrusions/

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  • hmmm@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

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  • RichardDegenne@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    We did the same for The Talos Principle Wiki.

    The community is hosting its own MediaWiki rather than rely on Fandom.

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    • CH3DD4R_G0BL1N@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The Monster Hunter community just did the same: monsterhunterwiki.org/wiki/Main_Page

      Folks finally got tired of the several horrible options and did it themselves. There’s also a discord for coordinating contributions if so inclined.

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      • duchess@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Honorary mention of Unofficial Elder Scrolls Pages, which existed as a fan documentation hub since the mid 90s.

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    • TreseBrothers@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Same for us with the Cyber Knights: Flashpoint wiki. More devs should learn that self-hosting a community wiki for their game is not that hard.

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  • Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Good to see we’re finally fighting back against Fandom

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    • w3dd1e@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Fandom is icky. A few years ago, my mom was getting scammed by some conspiracy guy from LinkedIn who offered her a “job.”

      These dudes set up their own fandom wiki to try to make their bullshit seem real. I can’t remember the name of the people involved but one guy was claiming that he was owed 300 trillion dollars by the government. (Can’t remember the exact number but it was astronomically high. More money than exists kinda high)

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    • NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      A lot of devs of “wiki games” have been doing this lately.

      Digital Extremes/Warframe did it a month or two back. And a lot of people have speculated that wiki.warframe.com/…/WARFRAME_Wiki:Stakeholder_Ana… and the old fandom equivalent “explains” it but that is inherently tinfoil and biased speculation.

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  • Evotech@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Best thing that happened to path of exile too, the devs provide the wiki platform for the community

    www.poewiki.net

    Very based

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    • alphapuggle@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Same thing happened with minecraft.wiki too, people finally got fed up with fandom’s bullshit

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      • 2ncs@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        That’s not the same, Mojang isn’t affiliated with the wiki at all.

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      • Klear@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Same with doomwiki.org and a bunch of others.

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    • bob_lemon@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The Guild Wars 2 (and 1) wiki is also hosted directly by the devs. It’s even accessible via chat command.

      wiki.guildwars2.com

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      • billiam0202@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        The fact that in GW2 you can just type “/wiki subject” and get taken to the wiki page for subject is such an amazing and obvious command I’m surprised more games don’t do it.

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    • KickMeElmo@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Warframe just did it too. Fantastic move.

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  • neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I avoid using fandom like it’s contagious. It’s so cluttered, when my blockers on images don’t load half the time. It’s a slow site.

    It’s really the worst, I’d rather scrub through a YouTube video to find the answer I’m looking for rather than go to a fandom site.

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    • Cris_Color@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You might like the indie wiki buddy extension, it can automatically redirect you to a independent wiki when you go to fandom (if there is one), remove fandom search results, and redirect you to a ‘breeze wiki’ page if there’s no fandom alternative

      (Breeze wiki is an alternative frontend for fandom, much like invidious for YouTube. It guts all the ads and banners and garbage, and gives you a much simpler wiki page)

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      • Elevator7009sAlt@ani.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        If you browse a lot on mobile and cannot install extensions, all you have to do is replace the “fandom” in the fandom wiki URL with “antifandom”

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    • umbraroze@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’ve often been like “I don’t know why people complain about Fandom, this is fine”. And then I saw what the site looks like without uBlock. Sweet merciful heavens. Hey, there’s some ads. Let’s cram some ads in the ads. Some prime blank space? Shove some annoying video things in there. Autoplaying. See that navigation bar over there? Let’s make it pointless. (If you come to the article via web search, surely you want to read about some completely random stuff in another game!)

      Fandom is garbage, Fextralife is garbage (and at this rate will probably be bought by Fandom one day). Indie wikis rule.

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  • Thcdenton@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Based dev. Fuck fextralife and fandom

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    • Malix@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      fextralife

      Sometimes it feels like fextralife is filled only with stub articles.

      me: “Hmm, I wonder about [a thing] in [a game]”

      fextralife’s entire article: “[A thing] is a thing in [a game]”

      brilliant, thank you.

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    • Bloodyhog@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Wat?! Fandom has ads?! Never saw these. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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  • Kelly@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    They have taken the survivers.wiki domain.

    I wonder if they are planning spinoffs with other themes?

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    • RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Accountant Survivors coming in October.

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    • Mozingo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      suvivors.wiki *

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      • Kelly@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Thanks

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  • p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Just wanted to point out that wiki.gg is out there as a replacement. There’s even a wiki.gg Redirect plugin for Firefox that takes you to the right place, if you hit a Fandom link.

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    • barryamelton@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      and then wiki.gg gets bought, as other wikis got. No thanks.

      Write content in a community mediawiki maintained by the community instead.

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      • Blackmist@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Instructions unclear.

        Locked it behind a Discord community instead. 🤡

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      • PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        For anyone looking for a wonderful example of this, check out the RuneScape wiki. It’s hosted by the game company (Jagex) and maintained by the community. It is the single most expansive and in-depth wiki I have ever seen. It is truly the gold standard for what a wiki should aspire to be.

        It has everything you could need to play the game, all the way down to automatic calculators (with built in character lookup functionality, using the game’s high score leaderboard system) to tell you things like how many of [x] resource you’ll need to get [y] experience, or what your estimated return on investment will be for turning [x] resource into [y] product.

        The game has over 250 quests, (and not just basic fetch or kill quests like most MMO’s have) and the wiki has in-depth walkthroughs (including in-game screenshots) for every single one.

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    • NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Relative to a fandom wiki: I guess? Although you are inherently going to have the same content theft problems where the vast majority of modern wikis are just ripped from the game guides that games media are still paid to prepare.

      Relative to an official wiki with developer backing? No, it is not a replacement.

      Also: I would generally be very wary of any of the plugins to redirect you since they have VERY broad permissions to… hijack your browser traffic. If you are keeping up to date and monitoring them you are probably fine but that feels like a great example in waiting to find out a bad actor pushed some code last week…

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  • biofaust@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I wouldn’t be surprised if the initiative comes from the OG dev of the game, who is Italian: the efforts we go through since 1996 (all I can remember) to avoid ads and popups are of biblical proportions.

    I can remember my father taking the PC away from me as soon as he saw I was exposed to one, going “I can take that away, it will be a minute”. It wasn’t a minute.

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  • iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Love this, and the site looks great. Wonder what software that is. Is it just mediawiki?

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    • kilgore_trout@feddit.it ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yes.

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      • iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Ah, perfect, thank you. I was particularly interested because I just recently dabbled with mediawiki and ended up going with dokuwiki.

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  • umbrella@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    ublock origin and firefox.

    game wikis are a breeze to use for me.

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    • Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Breezewiki?

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  • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This pleases me.

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  • PieMePlenty@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Very nice to see. Might start playing again to 100% it (yet again) now that there’s an actual useful wiki for it. Always love to see pure media wiki usage.

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  • dditty@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Very nice! This would’ve been helpful when I was platinuming the game last year.

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  • ray1992xd@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Another step was made to reclaim the free internet! I bought dlc inside the game and I’m glad I did.

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  • kepix@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    shouldnt this be built in the game anyway?

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    • bob_lemon@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s still a wiki, I.e. user/community written content.

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