The Nightshade Family

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• yesman@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Tomatoes, peppers, and potatoes are native to the Americas. That means that before Transatlantic trade, there were not hot peppers in China, no potatoes in Ireland, and not tomatoes in Italy.

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  • Psaldorn@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    That’s why if you ask someone in Bologna how much tomato to add to your Bolognese they will chase you out of town with a kitchen knife.

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    • bob_lemon@feddit.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Which is weird, considering the dish was only invented in the 19th century, so tomatoes were absolutely available.

      Italian cuisine in general has way less tradition that people think.

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    • Maggoty@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      What did they use instead?

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  • MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Imagine many common Indian dishes without tomatoes or chilis. How about the popular trope of a Native American on horseback? Horses went extinct in the US many thousands of years before Europeans arrived with a different kind. It’s amazing how quickly the cultural exchange happened so long ago.

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    • mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Tangential fact: syphillis originated in the Americas, likely from llamas. It’s the only instance of a transmittable disease to be imported to the old world.

      This also makes me a bit annoyed at the show 'Apothecary Diaries" as it depicts syphillis existing in China in the 700AD

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• Toes@ani.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Tobacco would make a great name for a cat

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  • Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    And how majestic that cat looks!
    Def the photogenic one in the family.

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  • M137@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    A pouch of snus is called a “prilla” in Swedish, and one of my friends named their cat that.

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• Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  People always look at you weird when you call Salsa a “concoction of nightshade fruits”.

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  • bob_lemon@feddit.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Tbf, most of these would kind of suck in a salsa.

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  • mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Don’t forget onion

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• lime@feddit.nu ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  wait, the cat is related?

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  • Sanguine@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Its a family photo, they don’t need to be blood relatives.

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    • lime@feddit.nu ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      so tobacco is not related?

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  • lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yeah that one messes me up as well. Who of these birthed the cat? Who of these did the cat birth?

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    • faythofdragons@slrpnk.net ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You never heard about mom having kittens?

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• Carl@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  This is a default family in the Sims.

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• Ledericas@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Fun fact potato berries are poisonous

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• Foreigner@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Relevant Simpsons episode: youtu.be/DX08tDXPnz0?feature=shared

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• Vathsade@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I can see a deadly link for nightshade for a few of them (like when potatoes turn green) but I’ve never heard of poisonous tomato facts… Are there any?

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  • millie@beehaw.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Europeans used to think tomatoes were poisonous. They referred to them as poison apples.

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    • mysticpickle@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That’s because they used pewter containers which were pretty common back in the day. The acidity from tomatoes would leech the lead out of the pewter and into the tomato so anyone eating this lead infused tomato product was gonna be in for a bad time.

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    • bob_lemon@feddit.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The poison apple thing is based on works of Galen, who, seeing how he lived in Europe in the 3rd century, has never seen a tomato, nor spoken to anyone who has. But he did describe a poisonous “wolf peach” that happened to match a tomato, so obviously that must be it.

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  • wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Many parts of the tomato plant are deadly to pets. Same goes for all nightshade members.

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  • ben_dover@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    any of the green parts of the tomato (even just the small bits inside the tomato) can kill small pets like hamsters or mice

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• XTL@sopuli.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Potatoes? One of the “family” just decided to be a tuber?

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  • MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Get this, they’re so closed related that botanists created a plant that grows tomatoes above ground and potatoes below.

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    • XTL@sopuli.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Wild. TIL. Thanks.

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  • MrsDoyle@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Potatoes have fruits as well - they look like little dark green tomatoes. Toxic of course, because nightshade.

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  • wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    There is more to a plant than just the fruit, you know. It just happens that the species (cultivar?) of nightshade that we grow for potatoes has tasty, starchy roots, while others have tasty, zesty fruits, and then so.a of them are eggplant.

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    • Narauko@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Eggplant out here catching strays.

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  • chuckleslord@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    … what? No, they’re all nightshade plants. Not the same plant, mind, but still the same family.

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  • millie@beehaw.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Just be glad they didn’t turn into crabs or cats.

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• werefreeatlast@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  And the devil’s trumpet?

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• ryannathans@aussie.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Here I was thinking tomatillos were separate

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• DragonsInARoom@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  True

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