Why hasn't the deep state stopped trump?

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• Acidbath@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Im the deep state. my bad guys, totally dropped the ball on this one. Currently being controlled by the deeper deep state.

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  • Tedesche@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Deeper Deep State here, guys. Not my fault. Blame the Shallow State.

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• infinitevalence@discuss.online ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Deep State was always projection at best. Real Deep State is the oligarchy, and Musk now has his control.

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• ivanafterall@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  The notion of a deep state is absurd and is just right-wing bullshit demonizing government employees so that conservatives could justify tearing it down like they’re doing now.

  For years, the problem at many agencies has been getting enough good people into government, because who wants to work at a place they’ll be often underpaid and treated like shit? The IRS is a great example. Their collection efforts (e.g. Biden making an effort to go claim unpaid taxes from wealthier Americans) repay something like 10-to-1 what is spent on them, but year-after-year-after-year they’re underfunded, because it’s easy to say, “Fuck the IRS! BOOOO TAXES!” And nobody wants to hear, “Collecting taxes is literally one of THE essential aspects of government. The agency that collects them needs more resources to do it well–they’re literally still using 1980s computer equipment. Please give the IRS more money.”

  The reality is so much less sexy than any conspiracy would have you believe.

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  • StitchIsABitch@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    That’s a great point about the IRS. Where I’m from we also make a lot of derogatory jokes about our equivalent of the IRS, but it really is a cornerstone of any civilized country. No one likes getting taxed, but everyone complains about how nothing’s getting fixed, and how the government should fund this and that. Without taxes we might as well pack it in, so it makes sense that the ‘local tax collection agency’ should be one of the better funded ones.

    So I guess what I’m trying to say is thanks for changing my mind

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    • ivanafterall@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Thanks. I was fortunate enough to go from working as a typical dumbass conservative to jaded and leaving the Hill to suddenly working at a place that focused on the civil service, things like the IRS, OPM, OMB. I suddenly found the talking points I brought with me from a GOP Capitol Hill office very flimsy–beyond insufficient in the face of the reality of these very complex agencies/issues and these people working in these agencies who were waaaay smarter than I was. And some of those people were kind enough to fairly gently go, “Here’s all the shit you’ve been wrong about until now, you fucking dumbass. OH, and just fyi, here’s some of the literal personal human fallout the bullshit you were personally working on caused on this side of things.” It was all sobering. I’m still not an expert, I just mostly try to shutup now unless I’m pretty sure I’m not accidentally still spewing some old propaganda dust bunny that I inadvertently missed.

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  • Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Imagine all the trump sycophants who are being rewarded with government jobs. I’m so privileged! I get to work at the IRS!

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    • ivanafterall@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Latest John Oliver Trump segment shows exactly that: 19-year-old Elon Musk follower known as “Big Balls” online who as of now is a senior adviser at the State Department. :) :) :) :) :)

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• Adderbox76@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Those dreadfully dangerous Antifa terrorists sure have gone silent too, haven’t they.

  It’s almost as though they never existed.

  Right now, we need Antifa to be everything that the right wings pretended Antifa was.

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• gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I admit I’m flat out shocked that the alphabet agencies appear to have done NOTHING in terms of preparatory/counterintel/firewalling/contingency work. I hope that means they did it right, and important things are being hidden from him. But who knows.

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• maplebar@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Hey man, rule #1, no stupid questions.

  It’s right in the name.

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  • Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I thought it was No! Stupid question.

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    • toynbee@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      [i.pinimg.com/…/5dc3c779480fef4314821daedd1e55c0.j…](Simpsons lawyer business card)

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  • olafurp@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I thought it meant that “Here no questions are stupid” where it implies you shouldn’t feel embarrassed about asking strange or simple questions.

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  • jagged_circle@feddit.nl ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Uh. Your interpretation of that phrase is different than ours

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• FuglyDuck@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Because Trump is the deep state.

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  • sik0fewl@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    He’s been supported by the deep state. The deep state is the money influencing politics.

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  • kent_eh@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Trump is the derp state

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• UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Capitalism

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• Maggoty@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  It was always a made up thing. Government leaders are doing what they always do. They’re obeying the president to the limits of the law. Where Trump and Musk are insisting on things they think are illegal they are resisting until they’re forced out or they resign/retire.

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• fuzzy_feeling@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  it’s all projection.

  they tried to rig the election 2020.

  2024 they tried again and were successfull.

  now they have two movements in the white house. one is neo-feudalism the other is techno-feudalism. and it looks like the techno-feudalitst are taling over.

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• hakunawazo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Deep state sounds less like conspiracy and more like porn.

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  • Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    OwO daddy your state me deep

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• Akasazh@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  He outsmarted them

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  • Fuck_Team@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    lol

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• ToiletFlushShowerScream@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Many friends and family members are all over in the US government. Trumps claim of some deep state baffles every single one of them. It’s a bogey man. It doesn’t exist in any form. It is a lie meant to fool simpletons.

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• endeavor@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Its winter, lizards are in for hell of a rude awakening come spring.

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• DragonsInARoom@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Because his party controls 2/3s of it

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• SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Deep state (is generally agreed to be) non-elected officials who have the ability to sway govt functions. It’s more about making things not happen.

  The “resist” movement from the first admin could be seen as an example of deep state. If an elected person wants to do something that they have the power to do but the lower levels of govt disagree (ie it isn’t in someone else’s best interest) suddenly there will be things to stop it from happening or make it so slow, painful and costly that the elected would rather do something else instead.

  Errors in paperwork, extra “random” inspections, key people in the process calling sick, insisting on following all procedure step by step no matter what.

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• Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  What if, trump is the deep state =0

  Always has been. Whenever conservatives say the government doesn’t work and the government wants to destroy their way of life, they are describing a conservative government. It’s always projection with these assholes.

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• Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Derp state.

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• IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  The Deep State has already stopped the #Corrupt Biden Tyranny!

  /s

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• moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  one of these days this community will get a serious question

  eventually

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  • Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Shit. I should have posted in no unserious questions.

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• ZeroGravitas@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Trump is shallow at best.

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• Daze@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  🤛⌚️👀

  Just me waiting for the CIA to completely dissolve so that some idiot can stumble upon world-ending UAP tech

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• gibmiser@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Have you checked for an explanation on the official deep state website? It was made by the guy who made the anarchists union website.

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• RobotToaster@mander.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  There’s good odds that a lot of what is going on kayfabe.

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  • Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I mean, if you wanted to flaunt it, i think putting in a washed up TV “billionaire” reality TV star would be a great start.

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• Ledericas@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  deep state is started by russia, why would they stop.

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  • BrainInABox@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    ???

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