What's your "this is totally fine and I'm going to have a great time" FPS?

Submitted ⁨⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨penquin@lemm.ee⁩ to ⁨gaming@beehaw.org⁩

For me, anything 25 FPS or higher is 100% fine and I’ll be ~~joy~~ enjoy my time. I never play competitive online shooter games ever, though. All single player ones like GOW and the likes. I game on a 60 Hz 4k monitor. GPU is AMD RX 6600 alongside Ryzen 7 5700G and 32GB RAM. My games are set to meduim most of the time at 4k. Demanding titles are on low. Surprisingly, GOW and GOW Ragnarok are both set to ultra and I still get around 40ish FPS.

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ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
It used to be 60Hz. Then I played at 144Hz. The change in responsiveness of the mouse converted me

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- penquin@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Got spoiled. lol
  
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WatDabney@sopuli.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I don’t have one.

I have a very simple process for dealing with all of this - I never check my framerate in the first place, so I never know what it os.

I just play games If there’s noticeable lag then I maybe try to do something about it, and if there’s not, then I just play and don’t worry about it.

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- penquin@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  That’s actually a good way of doing it. I used to be this way, but I don’t know how and why I started using a team’s built in FPS counter and mangohud. I’m going to stop using it so I don’t have to keep glancing it all the time. Thank you.
  
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- JackbyDev@programming.dev ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  It’s not like I notice it more when I have a frame rate counter turned on, I’m just not questioning how bad or how often the drops are when I have it enabled.
  
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Strayce@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I’m old enough that I remember when 28FPS was considered a target, and my vision isn’t as hot as it used to be. So long as I’m not noticing any obvious issues, I don’t really care enough to check.

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AstralPath@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
In this day and age, anything below 60FPS 1080p is unacceptable. If a new game can’t hit that target on 3 year old hardware, the game is unfinished.

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- penquin@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I’m asking YOU and what YOU think is playable and you’d enjoy it , not games.
  
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  - AstralPath@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I think 60FPS is totally fine. 30 is only OK on slower moving games or era-appropriate consoles; Halo on the OG Xbox for example.
    
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- Mothra@mander.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I know OP has a point that they weren’t asking your opinion on games, but I really like your stance of demanding performance from the game devs especially on older hardware. There is a culture of "must have newest hardware to run everything maxed " that’s just dumb consumerism.
  
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PopeRigby@beehaw.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I’m hypersensitive to framerate and have a 170Hz monitor so 60 FPS is minimum for me. But even that’s a bit too low. Yes, I’m a snob.

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- penquin@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Nope, you’re not a snob, you just have a different preference, and that’s totally fine.
  
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Megaman_EXE@beehaw.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I only recently experienced the luxury of higher frame rates.

I’ll put up with 30. I usually don’t notice it after a while, especially if it’s steady.

60 is preferred, and I always aim for performance if I can.

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Ulrich@feddit.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
The average frame rate isn’t nearly as important as the stability. I’ll gladly take 30FPS over 60 + frame drops.

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unmagical@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
My monitor dynamically adjusts it’s refresh rate to match what my GPU is spitting out within reason. Anything above 40ish is fine, though competitive stuff does benefit from more. Below that even if my monitor is matching frame to fame I definitely notice.

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AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
So long as the game doesn’t lag enough that I have input lag, I’ll gladly play through a game at prettyich any FPS.

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Cyv_@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Most of the time, 60. But it depends.

Competitive FPS/action games I want 120, story games with FPS 60, anything turn based or slow paced is probably fine at 30 or 40. It also depends on a lot of other factors. On my handheld (steam deck like) I aim for 30 or 40, but my main PC always shoots for 60 or higher.

That and I usually tune my settings so I get a bit more than 60, then lock the framerate to reduce stutter.

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natecox@programming.dev ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Depends on your tv a bit. 30fps is fine on my steam deck, but on my LG OLED the response rate is too damn fast and 30fps looks choppy and terrible.

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- penquin@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Ha! I didn’t know response time affected it. TIL
  
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  - natecox@programming.dev ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I know this only because I spent way too long trying to figure out why older games look like ass on the LG haha.
    
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Mothra@mander.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
When I play it’s usually solo games, and I never had an issue with 20fps+ . If performance drops below that, I’m visually ok with 16fps, but usually at that range my system is struggling with game mechanics and that’s the deal breaker for me

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- penquin@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I feel like 20 FPS would be OK for me if I had absolutely no ability to get at least a 25. But 15? 16? That’s like very jittery. I remember that happening on Alan wake 2 and it was playable, but to be honest I was kind of annoyed with it.
  
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gk99@beehaw.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
40-45.

There are a lot of games at 30 I’ve played through just fine, but for FPS games that extra 10-15 is about my minimum unless it’s on console with aim assist. I grew up playing Saints Row 2 at single-digit framerates, but I just can’t do that anymore.

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- penquin@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Aaaah, good old saints Row. Love that game
  
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Azzu@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Anything realtime needs to be at least 60 fps. Something like a city builder or turn based strategy or non-time-critical relaxed co-op stuff is fine to be 30+.

I’d never want to play any shooter at lower than 60, no RTS, no racing game and so on.

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endeavor@sopuli.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
25 and above with drops is fine for me. I grew up with an ati card on low end machine so if the stupid game runs im happy. Don’t understand the stupid " 4k 250hz perfect black oled or its shit for stupid people" attitude. As long as my 1080p doesn’t ghost its fine. T. Made art for many games some of you have played.

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SARGE@startrek.website ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Depends on what I’m playing.

I can comfortably play some games down to 12fps ±3ish, if it isn’t something that’s fast paced.

I have yet to play anything where I’m skilled enough for higher than 30fps to matter response-wise, and while I can notice the difference between 60fps and 240fps on my monitor, I gotta say it doesn’t do much for me.

Maybe I just don’t know what to look for, what I’m missing, or how to set up my laptop right, but who knows. My eyes could be stuck on 720p for all I know.

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Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
If it’s not 60 or higher, I can’t stand it. But it has to be consistent. Even constant fluctuations between 120-140 are felt even if not necessarily seen. I generally just try to get 60 since my display is 60hz. What’s annoying is that I could be doing 1440p at 60 with my specs, but for some reason setting the display to that specific resolution locks it to 30hz.

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Dalek_Thal@aussie.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Well, I first played Dragon Age Origins with the framerate fluctuating between 10 and 20 FPS. Wasn’t the most fun I’ve ever had, but ever since 30 - 60 felt like luxury. So yeah, anywhere from 10 to 30 is fine for me, but the more active a game is the closer to 30 minimum with a target of 60

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Trainguyrom@reddthat.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I play a ton of simulation and strategy games (and some that I would hazard to classify as virtual railfanning/model railroading, like Railroads Online and Transport Fever 2) so I crank up the prettiness, download as much custom content as will load and enjoy the scenery at 20-40 FPS

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PrinzKasper@feddit.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Highly depends on the type of game. For First person shooters, 120+ fps is a must. I skipped the more recent CoDs because I couldn’t get them to run at that target consistently enough on my PC without turning them into blurry DLSS smear.

Racing games, where motion is typically always going in one direction with only smooth direction changes, a lower framerate is fine (like 60 to 80), although the added smoothness from high framerate is obviously still nice.

Slower paced or turn based games I’m fine with going as low as 40 FPS, as long as it’s consistent without drops and frame pacing issues.

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Coelacanth@feddit.nu ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I too grew up on machines that were mid-low range and was constantly asking more of them than they could handle, so I learned to stomach pretty miserable FPS. In the end though it’s highly context sensitive - the less movement (and in particular camera movement) the game has the lower the frame rate you can get away with.

As a general rule I would say 25 FPS is the absolute lower limit, but around 40 is probably more in line with your “this is fine and I’m going to have a great time” definition. However, for something like a fast paced shooter it’s more like 60 FPS minimum.

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JackbyDev@programming.dev ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Around maybe 40 or so I start to notice it. 50 and higher I’m content. My monitor only supports 60 Hz. Around 20 or less I’m annoyed. It’s tolerable for turn based games though. Not enjoyable, just tolerable.

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_Lory98_@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
My target is 60, but depending on the game I find framerates down to 20 technically playable, but I need a bit of time to get used to it.

For framerates above 60, however, I can’t really feel any difference so I usually set a cap at 60 to reduce heat and because the on board sound card is poorly isolated and picks up noise from the gpu.

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ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Depends on the game, but also the context.

Maybe this has changed since I’ve upgraded my gaming specs but I used to average 14 FPS on Kerbal Space Program and had a great time with it, docking is a nightmare at that frame rate but otherwise it’s more than playable.

Back in my poverty gaming days I 100%-ed a pirated The Simpsons Hit and Run with potato graphics at slide show speeds, I’m talking like multiple seconds per frame with around 80% frame droppage.

Nowadays I just care that it looks decent and runs smoothly for the games I play, which is mostly Civilization and Stellaris

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MossyFeathers@pawb.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Weirdly enough, I actually care more about framerate on “pancake” (non-vr) games than I do on VR games. I can deal with 10fps in vrchat in a crowded instance. I need more like 20~30 for non-vr games.

That said, I get mentally exhausted when the framerate is <30 for an extended period of time in VRChat.

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- penquin@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I can’t do VR. It scares the shit out of me having a screen 2" away from my eyes.
  
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BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Anything over about 90 feels great to me, and I can’t even notice the difference between 144 and 240.

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RedSnt@feddit.dk ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
There’s a reason I only upgrade to 2k monitor and not 4k, I’m not willing to sacrifice that much performance to just play at a higher resolution, 25 fps is way too low for me. 108 fps is what I play Fallout New Vegas at and I think that’s fine. I think I’ve gone down to 90 and been somewhat ok with that, but anything below that is no bueno.
Non-fps games I’ll cap lower, like 72 fps for a civilization game is perfectly fine.
But if you want beautiful games like God of War (or do you mean gears of war?) and are fine with a lower framerate, that makes sense to me.

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- penquin@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I like how us humans have totally different likes and dislikes. I 100% understand you and will never judge you. You like what you like and that’s very good. I mean God of war, yes. It’s freaking gorgeous.
  
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  - RedSnt@feddit.dk ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Maybe it’s because I grew up with 60hz CRT monitors in the 90s, the ones that’d give you a headache if you sat in front of them for too long 😅 Or maybe you just get so used to 144 fps once you make the switch that it’s impossible to go back.
    GOW running at 40’ish fps as you say even at ultra must mean they cared to make a good game. I ought to give it a go just for the “Boy” meme.
    
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Boomkop3@reddthat.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Anything under 90 feels a bit wobbly

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Suppoze@beehaw.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Depends on the game. If it’s not really demanding on reaction time, and the game is locked framerate I’m fine with 30, like Okami. However if the game is not locked FPS and I still can’t hit 60 FPS at least on my 1440p monitor I’d probably just play something else (because I know I could have better experience is I could run it).

However for shooter and reaction heavy games I always aim to max out my 144 Hz monitor, even 60 FPS can feel sluggish for me

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superkret@feddit.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
25FPS and 480 pixels vertically is enough for me to get sucked in and forget the world around me.
Which is nice cause that way I can play open world RPGs like Kingdom Come on an old laptop.

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