Complacency
What keeps Americans from being mad about the state of their country?
Submitted 3 months ago by Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world to [deleted]
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Gen_Euffe@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
expatriado@lemmy.world 3 months ago
own the libs is more important than progress
Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
Because a third of Americans are uninformed, another third is misinformed and thinks the current administration is in line with their goals, the other third is being gaslit by the other 2/3s that this is normal… And for those not buying the gaslighting, they are ignored and still too small of a group to do much.
I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 3 months ago
30 years of watching progressive movements flounder and civil action lead to absolutely zero substantial changes has given me a defeatist attitude. What good is getting mad? It’s not like it will change anything.
rottingleaf@lemmy.world 3 months ago
From the outside it seems that your progressive movements were a pretty good tool to spread thin the effort that could have gone someplace right, and also to weaken movements which were targeted at the real problems (for example, in the small world of FOSS it’s how FSF and GNU were slowly marginalized into something perceived as unreasonable and Stallman specifically pressed out, and no, his logically correct defense of some kinds of pedophilia and him being generally cringe were not the reason).
Also let’s please remember that everyone flocking to centralized platforms was welcomed by those progressive movements, their activists for whichever reason thought that the scale and the censorship will work in their favor and not those calling to fell the tall trees.
So - this is the logical outcome of what various movements have been doing. This part should make you optimist. And the feeling that you can’t certainly show at something at say that it will succeed should be liberating, not depressing.
Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Why cling to the defeatist attitude? It defeats itself. Why have a defeatist attitude when defeat is inevitable?
MeaanBeaan@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Who tf says we’re not mad? We’re fucking furious.
Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Maybe, act more like it?
TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 3 months ago
By doing? The government doesn’t care about protest, and anything more extreme than protest is met with extreme violence.
What actions are you doing that validates your superior sense of self worth?
absentbird@lemm.ee 3 months ago
There’s more protests on Monday, and we’re only getting more angry.
some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 3 months ago
Culture war.
daggermoon@lemmy.world 3 months ago
We’re all mad
vk6flab@lemmy.radio 3 months ago
Ignorance and apathy.
Yeller_king@reddthat.com 3 months ago
I dunno, they seem to be mad. It’s just most of them are wrong about who they should be mad at and why
wabafee@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I think internet in general specifically social media. It allows you to vent your frustrations without doing actual damage.
Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I think social media has done tons of damage. It think it brought together a group of people who would have never found each other, because they don’t have any decernable skills, and let them spread and consume misinformation at alarming rates.
Professorozone@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Gaslighting?
Sabata11792@ani.social 3 months ago
Everyone is mad and everyone can’t agree why were mad so now were more mad.
drmoose@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I think we’re just on a down wave globally. In early 00s we got social media which helped to organize people and lead to real actionable ideas. The bad actors figured it out and took control of our tools and now people are waiting for a new opportunity.
I think Americans need a strong leader and something to break the camel’s back. Everyone’s who’s angry now doesn’t have a good “deal” for risking exposure and their complacency because the failures are just too recent.
Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 3 months ago
“Wanting a strong leader” is what gave us trump. You be a leader or allow yourself to be led by people in your local community. There is no perfect leader that could ever check everyone’s boxes. If there was one thi g we could all agree on I’d like to know what it fucking is.
GoofSchmoofer@lemmy.world 3 months ago
trump isn’t a strong leader, he’s a very accomplished con artist.
He allows people to project their vision of who he is on him.
You say I’m christian? Sure I’ll pretend I am
You say I’m anti abortion? Sure I’ll pretend that I am
You say I’m for the little guy? Sure, I’ll pretend that I care about them
You say I’m anti-vax? Sure, I’ll tell you that I am
You say I’m the second coming of Christ? Okay, I’m good with you thinking that about me
You say I’m a strong patriot? Sure, I’ll hug the flag and say the words you need me to say
He is everything to everyone of his supporters because he never tells them that they are wrong about who he is.
raynethackery@lemmy.world 3 months ago
We are mad but we are also distracted and overwhelmed. You can’t get mad at work because you might get fired. Then there goes your housing and food and healthcare. It’s going to have to get a lot worse before things pop off.
PattyMcB@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I AM mad. So are my close friends and family
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I’m plenty mad but every solution short of REDACTED feels like a waste of time.
JoshuaBrusque@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Even suggesting REDACTED repulses the people who it would serve the most. Completely uninformed and lack of critical thinking.
Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I’d do REDACTED if everyone else was down. I’m so bored of this mouse trap they built. I’d literally do anything else.
bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
Everyone I talk to is mad, my family is a bunch of Tumpers and beloeve everything he says.
DonaldJMusk@lemmy.today 3 months ago
Because I’m not mad about it.
ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 3 months ago
Not yet 🙂
You’re in trouble like the rest of us. You just don’t know it yet.DonaldJMusk@lemmy.today 3 months ago
I’m not in trouble at all. I’m financially independent, in a rural town, with my own place and land, and I don’t work for anyone.
And I also now that you the world isn’t going to end just because Trump is president. You all just doomscroll all day. Go outside. No one takes this as seriously as Lemmy does. lol
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Those of us who are extremely upset about the state of our country are constantly wondering WTF is wrong with the other ones.
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 3 months ago
There’s plenty that are mad.
Just that the minority that are happy about it and the billionaires that own all forms of media keep sweeping that fact under the rug. Or they put a question mark at the end of it. Are Americans all that upset about trump? How much damage is trump really doing? And then they softball the response to questions like that with “who really knows what the damage will be? when it’s objective what the results are and the future holds.
Auli@lemmy.ca 3 months ago
The majority of people votes for this that is why. The no voters just wanted a clean conscious but they still voted for this.
Dragonstaff@leminal.space 3 months ago
Around 1/3 of the country voted for him.
veniasilente@lemm.ee 3 months ago
The fact that it’s exactly what they want.
Trump won with the popular vote: thhose want to be fascists. And those who don’t vote, well they just confirm a fascist in power.
Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Why do they argue so much about not being fascist then?
TigerWolfe@midwest.social 3 months ago
Their entire life they’ve been told fascism is bad, it is, they don’t want to accept that what they want makes them the bad guys, so those of us who want what’s happening are still going to deny it’s fascism.
Squizzy@lemmy.world 3 months ago
A sense of entitlement and superiority I would imagine.
Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I don’t know. Talking to everyone in this thread no one has told me they feel superior or beyond reproach. Mostly they just say their drawn too thin.
Squizzy@lemmy.world 3 months ago
It is an ingrained attitude seen through statements like “leaders of the freeworld”, “the great american experiment”, “the most powerful person in the world (potus)”, etc.
Americans have too much pride in a shithole country. There just isnt much justifiable pride to be found in modern america yet the leading party over every part of government maintains this greatest countrt ever bs.
Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 3 months ago
Police Procedural shows.
Law and Order, Criminal Minds, NCIS, CSI, Lie to Me, Dexter…
Basically, anything that makes people think that police are more effective at solving crime than they actually are.
Objection@lemmy.ml 3 months ago
Everyone’s angry, nobody can agree on what the problem is or what to do about it.
ef9357@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I’m infuriated! It’s like the US has lost their collective minds. But what’s the point in doing anything? This is what the voting populace of the US wants.
Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 3 months ago
The voting populace can go fuck them selves. They are shit eating, brain worm addled, fucks.
DelightfullyDivisive@discuss.online 3 months ago
I don’t think that is true. It wasn’t a majority. (Although that’s a nitpick, it was close enough to say that about half of all voters voted for Trump.)
A more important consideration is that the majority of people who did vote for him are incredibly naive when it comes to politics. They think that the president sets gas prices, or that Trump and Musk are geniuses because they say they are. Most of them feel disenfranchised by both political parties, and this is a brick through the window of the established order. I don’t think most of the electorate thought this through much beyond that.
I honestly don’t know what difference it will make in the long run, but I don’t think it is true to say that this is what most people wanted.
Garlicsquash@lemmings.world 3 months ago
I honestly have no clue
Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Yeah, it’s pretty complex .
snek_boi@lemmy.ml 3 months ago
I bet soon you’ll see massive consequential protests.
Irelephant@lemm.ee 3 months ago
There is a lot of protests, the media isn’t really reporting them.
MyNameIsFUElonTrump@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I’m mad as fuck. Get me one (or more) of those traitorous bastards within arm’s reach and they’ll find out precisely how mad.