Whew, hopefully he’ll forget he’s supposed to track me till the end of time
We're monsters
Submitted 2 years ago by The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world to [deleted]
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PaupersSerenade@sh.itjust.works 2 years ago
BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 2 years ago
Sorry bucko, it was a decoy snail
edgarallenpwn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 years ago
PaupersSerenade@sh.itjust.works 2 years ago
That’s incredible, I was aware of the tileman mode plug in, but this is inspired.
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solstice@lemmy.world 2 years ago
Since the comments all appear to be juvenile Reddit style jokes, here’s TFA (the frickin article: futurism.com/scientists-selectively-erased-memori…
Note, I’m not a scientist.
As I suspected it appears they tortured the snails somehow (my guess is electric shock) to create traumatic memories. This has been done with caterpillars I think to see if they retain memories after turning into butterflies and they do, despite basically turning into primordial goop in the cocoon. They do, and it’s tested by seeing if they retain aversions to certain areas of their cages that are electrified.
Then something about enzymes created which associate memory with pain and being able to target them.
Pretty cool, and I for one definitely have a few traumas I’d like erased.
aesthelete@lemmy.world 2 years ago
Pretty cool, and I for one definitely have a few traumas I’d like erased.
It’s kinda neat, but I for one do not want to see Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind become a documentary. I mean I like the movie and all…but.
Wogi@lemmy.world 2 years ago
We can kinda do that. There are therapies that target trauma and recontextualize them. Look up EMDR, it’s really cool stuff.
solstice@lemmy.world 2 years ago
There is debate about how the therapy works and whether it is more effective than other established treatments.[1][5] The eye movements have been criticized as having no scientific basis.[6] The founder promoted the therapy for the treatment of PTSD, and proponents employed untestable hypotheses to explain negative results in controlled studies.[7] EMDR has been characterized as a pseudoscientific purple hat therapy (i.e., only as effective as its underlying therapeutic methods without any contribution from its distinctive add-ons).[8]
I read about that fifteen years ago and dismissed it as pseudoscience. Wikipedia confirms. Pass (thanks though, don’t mean to be rude)
Emerald@lemmy.world 2 years ago
How is torturing an animal cool?
SCB@lemmy.world 2 years ago
Because it can lead to treatment for human suffering. He says it in his post
gayhitler420@lemm.ee 2 years ago
🕵️♂️🐜
OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 2 years ago
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Snail
thefartographer@lemm.ee 2 years ago
Finally! A therapy to make me forget that movie!
CarlsIII@kbin.social 2 years ago
But sunshine is bad for snails! What have we done?!
illusoryMechanist@lemmy.world 2 years ago
Scientists: No guys seriously what have we done I can’t remember
The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 2 years ago
Oh no, they fried the part of their brain that could tell the difference between snails and humans!
julianh@lemm.ee 2 years ago
Finally I can replay Outer Wilds.
Pinklink@lemm.ee 2 years ago
Yes. Good god yes. Was disappointed by the dlc though unfortunately. I want to like it but I just don’t.
But also replay Inscryption
TheAndrewBrown@lemm.ee 2 years ago
It honestly was too scary for me. I don’t do horror games. The angler fish in the main game was almost too much for me
ultrasquid@lemm.ee 2 years ago
I can play Omori without having been spoiled!
Delta_44@lemmy.world 2 years ago
EXACTLY, I feel the same
OtakuAltair@lemm.ee 2 years ago
Such a great game. I’d also play through Undertale again with this
xusontha@ls.buckodr.ink 2 years ago
I think the scientists are more worried about why the snail’s head is the size of a human rather than the memory loss…
QuazarOmega@lemy.lol 2 years ago
It’s the long hidden aliens that were driving the latest non-human aircraft
The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 2 years ago
Maybe the snail meme was a CIA guerilla training operation.
xusontha@ls.buckodr.ink 2 years ago
so aliens are actually just big snails, like the Voth from Star Trek
Interesting
froghorse@lemm.ee 2 years ago
Have you ever entered a room and forgot why you came in?
How about your dreams at night? Or what you had for dinner last month?
I think that memory-deletion is much more common than we think. Like vast invisible whales floating through your living room.
Of course we’d never know it.
GreenMario@lemm.ee 2 years ago
The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 2 years ago
Well the scientists must be zapping me a lot in that case.
froghorse@lemm.ee 2 years ago
For every memory that you noticed you forgot there are a thousand that you forgot without noticing. I’m guessing here.
froghorse@lemm.ee 2 years ago
You ever read “there is no anti-memetics division” by qntm?
It’s good science fiction . He explores the subject of memory, deleting memory, etc. They have drugs for erasing memory, drugs for making it so you can’t forget, demons that eat memory, certain kinds of information that resist being remembered… It’s fascinating stuff.
MajorHavoc@lemmy.world 2 years ago
It’s probably at your request, to help you get rid of a horrible / painful memory.
Misconduct@startrek.website 2 years ago
Pfft this guy doesn’t know how to see the invisible whales 🙄
ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 2 years ago
Chemtrails are real but the chemicals are usually amnestics
froghorse@lemm.ee 2 years ago
I wonder if a general approach to inducing amnesia would be the best approach.
I think that we always take what we’ve got - what we see, memories - no matter how flimsy, and stitch together a plausible narrative from that.
So the amnesia doesn’t have to be very precise. Our amnesiator could basically be just a brain damage ray
Speiser0@feddit.de 2 years ago
Why is the snail so large?!
The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 2 years ago
It doesn’t remember, sorry.
postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 2 years ago
Exactly the reason they had to fund this project.
Cheaper than the lawsuit.
Clusterfck@lemmy.sdf.org 2 years ago
So they could use a normal sized eraser, duh.
nxdefiant@startrek.website 2 years ago
decoy snail
SomeBoyo@feddit.de 2 years ago
Oh no the real one escaped
Techmaster@lemm.ee 2 years ago
Probably a racing snail.
ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 years ago
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mollusk
Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.de 2 years ago
Humans experimenting on weaker animals has peak fashist vibes.
“bUt iTs oNLy a SnAiL” yeah and before anything happens on humand they will experiment on mammals.
Kolanaki@yiffit.net 2 years ago
“Hey guys… Is it fascist to want to learn more about the reality we find ourselves in?”
Wogi@lemmy.world 2 years ago
There was a period during the Chinese Communist revolution that basically labeled a lot of modern science as capitalist propaganda.
Femcowboy@lemm.ee 2 years ago
Call me Hitler but it’s only a snail. If this can erase my dad strangling me or watching someone shoot themself from my brain IDC how many invertebrates die for it.
Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.de 2 years ago
How many dogs and chimpanzees are you willing to murder for the human trial to fail in phase 2?
WarmSoda@lemm.ee 2 years ago
Would you prefer all medicines and other technologies skip trials and go straight to the counter?
datelmd5sum@lemmy.world 2 years ago
last step in trials is poor people.
Zehzin@lemmy.world 2 years ago
I can give snails brain (ganglia?) damage too, you’re not that special, scientists.
smellythief@lemmy.world 2 years ago
Small
knowknew too much.Lammy@lemmy.world 2 years ago
Is this true?
The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 2 years ago
Yeah, but it’s 5 years old.
Efwis@lemmy.zip 2 years ago
My question is, how do they know what a snail is thinking or remembers? Last I knew snails didn’t talk.
UnendingQuest@lemmy.world 2 years ago
Probably something like the snail learned to find food in a certain place, then they were able to make it forget such that it would search randomly instead of going to the place it had learned.
Efwis@lemmy.zip 2 years ago
Lol, I can see it now.
“Im going to sit here for 8-12 hours and watch where this snail goes today.”
Sorry couldn’t resist.
solstice@lemmy.world 2 years ago
I read a study once about caterpillars getting shocked in their cages to teach them which areas are electrified. They retained this memory aversion after turning into butterflies. Probably something similar, basic behavioral observations to stimuli.
Savvy95@lemmy.world 2 years ago
It reminds me of that old joke of the 2 scientists studying a fly.
Scientist 1: Fly, fly! Scientist 2: When fly has two wings fly flies 2 feet.
Scientist 1: pulls off one wing and says Fly, Fly! Scientist 2: When fly has 1 wing, fly flies 1 foot
Scientist 1: pulls off the other wing and says, Fly, fly!. Nothing happens Scientist 1 Fly, Fly! Nothing happens Scientist 1 showing frustration> FLY! FLY! Scientist 2: When fly has no wings, fly becomes deaf.
Bad-dum!
The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 2 years ago
I like this. First time hearing it.
RootKit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 years ago
That’s good, 'cause the fly can’t.