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  • Savvy95@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It reminds me of that old joke of the 2 scientists studying a fly.

    Scientist 1: Fly, fly! Scientist 2: When fly has two wings fly flies 2 feet.

    Scientist 1: pulls off one wing and says Fly, Fly! Scientist 2: When fly has 1 wing, fly flies 1 foot

    Scientist 1: pulls off the other wing and says, Fly, fly!. Nothing happens Scientist 1 Fly, Fly! Nothing happens Scientist 1 showing frustration> FLY! FLY! Scientist 2: When fly has no wings, fly becomes deaf.

    Bad-dum!

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    • The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I like this. First time hearing it.

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      • RootKit@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        That’s good, 'cause the fly can’t.

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  • PaupersSerenade@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Whew, hopefully he’ll forget he’s supposed to track me till the end of time

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    • BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Sorry bucko, it was a decoy snail

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    • edgarallenpwn@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Snailman Mode

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      • PaupersSerenade@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        That’s incredible, I was aware of the tileman mode plug in, but this is inspired.

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  • solstice@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Since the comments all appear to be juvenile Reddit style jokes, here’s TFA (the frickin article: futurism.com/scientists-selectively-erased-memori…

    Note, I’m not a scientist.

    As I suspected it appears they tortured the snails somehow (my guess is electric shock) to create traumatic memories. This has been done with caterpillars I think to see if they retain memories after turning into butterflies and they do, despite basically turning into primordial goop in the cocoon. They do, and it’s tested by seeing if they retain aversions to certain areas of their cages that are electrified.

    Then something about enzymes created which associate memory with pain and being able to target them.

    Pretty cool, and I for one definitely have a few traumas I’d like erased.

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    • aesthelete@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Pretty cool, and I for one definitely have a few traumas I’d like erased.

      It’s kinda neat, but I for one do not want to see Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind become a documentary. I mean I like the movie and all…but.

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    • Wogi@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      We can kinda do that. There are therapies that target trauma and recontextualize them. Look up EMDR, it’s really cool stuff.

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      • solstice@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        There is debate about how the therapy works and whether it is more effective than other established treatments.[1][5] The eye movements have been criticized as having no scientific basis.[6] The founder promoted the therapy for the treatment of PTSD, and proponents employed untestable hypotheses to explain negative results in controlled studies.[7] EMDR has been characterized as a pseudoscientific purple hat therapy (i.e., only as effective as its underlying therapeutic methods without any contribution from its distinctive add-ons).[8]

        I read about that fifteen years ago and dismissed it as pseudoscience. Wikipedia confirms. Pass (thanks though, don’t mean to be rude)

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    • Emerald@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      How is torturing an animal cool?

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      • SCB@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Because it can lead to treatment for human suffering. He says it in his post

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      • gayhitler420@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        🕵️‍♂️🐜

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  • OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Snail

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    • thefartographer@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Finally! A therapy to make me forget that movie!

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    • CarlsIII@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      But sunshine is bad for snails! What have we done?!

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  • illusoryMechanist@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Scientists: No guys seriously what have we done I can’t remember

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    • The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Oh no, they fried the part of their brain that could tell the difference between snails and humans!

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  • julianh@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Finally I can replay Outer Wilds.

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    • Pinklink@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yes. Good god yes. Was disappointed by the dlc though unfortunately. I want to like it but I just don’t.

      But also replay Inscryption

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      • TheAndrewBrown@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        It honestly was too scary for me. I don’t do horror games. The angler fish in the main game was almost too much for me

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    • ultrasquid@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I can play Omori without having been spoiled!

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    • Delta_44@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      EXACTLY, I feel the same

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    • OtakuAltair@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Such a great game. I’d also play through Undertale again with this

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  • xusontha@ls.buckodr.ink ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I think the scientists are more worried about why the snail’s head is the size of a human rather than the memory loss…

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    • QuazarOmega@lemy.lol ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It’s the long hidden aliens that were driving the latest non-human aircraft

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      • The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Maybe the snail meme was a CIA guerilla training operation.

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      • xusontha@ls.buckodr.ink ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        so aliens are actually just big snails, like the Voth from Star Trek

        Interesting

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  • froghorse@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Have you ever entered a room and forgot why you came in?

    How about your dreams at night? Or what you had for dinner last month?

    I think that memory-deletion is much more common than we think. Like vast invisible whales floating through your living room.

    Of course we’d never know it.

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    • GreenMario@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Image

      Every time I walk into another room.

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    • The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Well the scientists must be zapping me a lot in that case.

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      • froghorse@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        For every memory that you noticed you forgot there are a thousand that you forgot without noticing. I’m guessing here.

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      • froghorse@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        You ever read “there is no anti-memetics division” by qntm?

        It’s good science fiction . He explores the subject of memory, deleting memory, etc. They have drugs for erasing memory, drugs for making it so you can’t forget, demons that eat memory, certain kinds of information that resist being remembered… It’s fascinating stuff.

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      • MajorHavoc@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        It’s probably at your request, to help you get rid of a horrible / painful memory.

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    • Misconduct@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Pfft this guy doesn’t know how to see the invisible whales 🙄

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    • ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Chemtrails are real but the chemicals are usually amnestics

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      • froghorse@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I wonder if a general approach to inducing amnesia would be the best approach.

        I think that we always take what we’ve got - what we see, memories - no matter how flimsy, and stitch together a plausible narrative from that.

        So the amnesia doesn’t have to be very precise. Our amnesiator could basically be just a brain damage ray

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  • Speiser0@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Why is the snail so large?!

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    • The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It doesn’t remember, sorry.

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      • postmateDumbass@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Exactly the reason they had to fund this project.

        Cheaper than the lawsuit.

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    • Clusterfck@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      So they could use a normal sized eraser, duh.

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  • nxdefiant@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    decoy snail

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    • SomeBoyo@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Oh no the real one escaped

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      • Techmaster@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Probably a racing snail.

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  • ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mollusk

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  • Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Humans experimenting on weaker animals has peak fashist vibes.

    “bUt iTs oNLy a SnAiL” yeah and before anything happens on humand they will experiment on mammals.

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    • Kolanaki@yiffit.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      “Hey guys… Is it fascist to want to learn more about the reality we find ourselves in?”

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      • Wogi@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        There was a period during the Chinese Communist revolution that basically labeled a lot of modern science as capitalist propaganda.

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    • Femcowboy@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Call me Hitler but it’s only a snail. If this can erase my dad strangling me or watching someone shoot themself from my brain IDC how many invertebrates die for it.

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      • RobertOwnageJunior@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Peak human.

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      • Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        How many dogs and chimpanzees are you willing to murder for the human trial to fail in phase 2?

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    • WarmSoda@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Would you prefer all medicines and other technologies skip trials and go straight to the counter?

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    • datelmd5sum@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      last step in trials is poor people.

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  • Zehzin@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I can give snails brain (ganglia?) damage too, you’re not that special, scientists.

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  • smellythief@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Small know knew too much.

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  • Lammy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Is this true?

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    • The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yeah, but it’s 5 years old.

      Forbes article

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  • Efwis@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    My question is, how do they know what a snail is thinking or remembers? Last I knew snails didn’t talk.

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    • UnendingQuest@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Probably something like the snail learned to find food in a certain place, then they were able to make it forget such that it would search randomly instead of going to the place it had learned.

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      • Efwis@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Lol, I can see it now.

        “Im going to sit here for 8-12 hours and watch where this snail goes today.”

        Sorry couldn’t resist.

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    • solstice@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I read a study once about caterpillars getting shocked in their cages to teach them which areas are electrified. They retained this memory aversion after turning into butterflies. Probably something similar, basic behavioral observations to stimuli.

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