The Hi and Lo directions on my range’s knobs

Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨LazaroFilm@lemmy.film⁩ to ⁨mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world⁩

I kept burning my food or wait forever for the pan to heat up and I finally understand why. Each know had a different direction for the Hi and Lo (also why isn’t it Low).

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danc4498@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
You’ll love it more when the numbers get washed off. Here’s mine.

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- mrmhm@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  How in the hell did this make it to market?
  
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  - beta@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Mass consumerism and companies not caring.
    
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  - Daqu@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    They had different teams working on each knob to speed up the design process.
    
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- TheSaneWriter@lemmy.thesanewriter.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Oh God, playing Russian Roulette with your food using that knob.
  
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  - danc4498@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Honestly, I just never use that burner!
    
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- Crackhappy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Haha yeah. I have the same one from Samsung.
  
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  - Ilikepornaddict@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Samsung makes shit home appliances.
    
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- 1984@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Lol this is the funniest thing I’ve read today :)
  
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- ultratiem@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  This is criminal
  
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- PissinSelfNdriveway@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  You can get an engraver for like $12 of Amazon, with a little practice you can probably ingrave new numbers and paint fill them.
  
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- Tuss@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Technically they can use their picture as reference and maybe order a sticker with the settings printed.
  
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sndmn@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
My dryer has a “less dry” setting.

Who likes their laundry done rare?

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- LazaroFilm@lemmy.film ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  That actually makes sense for things you want to finish drying on a line so they don’t heat up too much and shrink.
  
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  - manucode@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Also for ironing
    
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  - danc4498@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    This makes sense… But my washer defaults to this mode and I can’t figure out how to change it. By default all my clothes are almost dry.
    
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- Kushan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Mine has similar settings but they’re named in ways which actually tells you why you’d want them that way: “Ready to Iron”, “Ready to Hang” and “Extra Dry”, things like that.
  
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- Imgonnatrythis@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  So it actually adds water?
  
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  - Confused_Emus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    It just seemed nuts hooking up a water line to my dryer the first time I got one with steam cycles.
    
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- BassaForte@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  It’s useful for when I forget about my laundry and the clothes are already mostly dry, but not completely.
  
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  - intensely_human@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    So they can build a nice layer of mildew?
    
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- intensely_human@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Some fabrics wrinkle when you allow them to sit in the dryer totally dry. For those you want to take them out and hang them for the last bit so when they reach their driest state they’re hanging and not crumpled within the dryer.
  
  source: am appliance salesman
  
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warling@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
At least “Off” is consistent. That could have been a total train wreck.

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- ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  I bought a portable electric space heater a few years ago that had an alarming tendency to rewire itself - like, “Off” would become “Low”, “High” would become “Fan” etc. Finally took it apart and realized that the dial was just a contact that rolled across a bit of printed solder and occasionally the solder would melt (imagine that happening in a fucking heater) and flow into a new pattern. I have absolutely no idea why thousands of people haven’t burned themselves to death with these things.
  
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  - evilgiraffe666@ttrpg.network ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Are the 300 deaths and 21800 fires not enough? People absolutely do burn themselves to death with space heaters. Source: cpsc.gov/…/CPSC-Offers-Tips-to-Prevent-Home-Fires…
    
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sebinspace@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
mildly?

This is fucking pitchfork worthy

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Pandantic@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
It's like your stove top was the experimental test one where you could see how all the knob styles worked, like it wasn't supposed to be released to the public.

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Kushan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
I’m really trying to understand what’s going on here in a way that makes sense, even if it’s a twisted kind of sense.

My best guess is that some of these burners have multiple rings and that by turning the knob left (Anti-clockwise), you’re going from smaller number of rings to larger number of rings - however, the rings start at their highest heat level. So looking at the bottom right dial as an example, the first “Notch” on the left is the smallest burner on the highest setting, then as you turn left more, it’ll dial down that burner until you get to the second ring on the burner - starting at full power for that second burner and continuing to lower power until you get to the 3rd ring, then it’s same again for the 4th ring.

Is that right? am I even close? I don’t understand why you’d go from smallest burner to highest burner anti-clockwise, but go from lowest burner-power to highest clockwise. That still doesn’t make sense to me.

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- dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  That’s pretty much exactly how it is.
  
  OP’s stove is GCRE3060AF, or similar. The rightmost knob is inconsistent for reasons I cannot fathom, unless there is some obscure electrical reason. It is an electric stove, and the knobs with multiple ranges do indeed control burners that have multiple potential sizes. One of them has two selectable sizes, and other has three. On these I believe the rationale is that the high setting is the closest and most easily accessible because radiant electric ranges suck [citation not needed] and since they take forever and a day to heat up most users will just leap right to the full blast output setting immediately. I have no idea why the direction on the last knob is backwards from the others, but it is.
  
  If you’re morbidly curious, you can view the entire control panel from OP’s stove (or one similar) here.
  
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  - LazaroFilm@lemmy.film ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Also hers a pic Image
    
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  - LazaroFilm@lemmy.film ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Yep. It’s. GCRE3060AFF electric stove. (Other thing I hate is the fan noise when the oven is on, even when not on convection). Your idea of Hi closest to off position makes sense except of that triple knob, the 3rd ring Hi position isn’t at the top.
    
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  - TurnItOff_OnAgain@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Probably due to the knob itself and the configuration of the leads coming off of it.
    
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  - someguy3@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    It takes like 5 seconds to heat up.
    
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- LazaroFilm@lemmy.film ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Yes they’re rings. Still doesn’t explain why not everything is in the same rotational direction.
  
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- TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  That’s what I’m thinking, the different burners have different rings that are individually controlled
  
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justlookingfordragon@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
The longer I stare at it, the worse it gets …

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KidDogDad@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
what in the actual fuck

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- scutiger@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  The burner has two zones. A small one in the middle, and a wider ring around. If you turn to the left, you only turn the middle part on from High to low, and if you turn right, you turn both on from high to low.
  
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  - scottywh@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Damnit… Great explanation… Also, it just pissed me off because it reminded me that I have a burner on my stove like this with the small and large and different settings for each… Unfortunately, it currently only works at all on the large burner on high… I need to slide it away from the wall and take the fucking thing apart and figure out why…
    
    Not tonight though… 😂
    
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- june@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Has to do with the fact that several burners have multiple sizes that can be used. My stove is the same way, and there’s really not a much better way to do it imo, short of a touch screen, which I don’t want on a stove.
  
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  - Hildegarde@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    A dial with a mode select switch directly above it. That us the much better way.
    
    If you want the inner burner at power level 6, you set the mode switch to inner and the dial to 6. Then every dial can work the exact same way, but you still have multi-sized burners.
    
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  - Buddahriffic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    I like the other commenter’s idea, but I’d be happy with just consistent directions. Turn it a little bit counterclockwise and it’s the minimum low, turn it a bit clockwise and it’s max high.
    
    I have an LG one with a single triple burner that doesn’t match any of the others. The oven also sucks, I need to set it 25 degrees higher on convection (with normal cook time) for things to cook properly.
    
    Oh and then there’s the bottom drawer which is a second oven but it takes forever to preheat. I’ve used it twice and then stopped bothering.
    
    I think I’ll replace that piece of shit next time a big purchase is up.
    
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Vub@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
This is maybe the worst thing I have seen in my life.

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spongebue@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
I can explain this one! When the knob only has one set of hi/lo, it controls the burner’s heat as you’d expect, and it all works in the same direction. Those with multiple hi/lo sets control the heat and the size of the burner, since there are 2 (and on one, maybe 3?) concentric heating elements available for that knob.

I’ve had something similar for years, and have never had an issue. I’m even less likely to accidentally choose the wrong knob since the single-size one tends to have a looser feel to it.

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- MonkderZweite@feddit.ch ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Traslation: you get used to weird design.
  
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  - muzzle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    It took me about a minute to figure the same, before reading the comment, and I never had a multi element burner.
    
    Maybe OP, you, and a lot of other people in the thread are being a bit overdramatic?
    
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- LazaroFilm@lemmy.film ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  The issue is the direction of the Hi Lo. One it’s clockwise the other counter and the other it depends on which burner size you want.
  
  Yes they’re rings one double and one triple.
  
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  - spongebue@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Each one that controls only one size gets hotter as you go counter-clockwise
    
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- TheDoctorDonna@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  This explains the circle symbols beside each “lo” on the multi-knobs. That’s pretty clever once you get used to it.
  
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- KreekyBonez@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  nice features, albeit highly situational, and probably useless for most home cooks. I imagine R&D needed something new for the model and over-engineered it.
  
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  - spongebue@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    I have different sized pots and pans, so it actually really comes in handy for that
    
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intensely_human@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
You have double burners. Some of your knobs have two HI and two LO positions, one for one burner and one for both burners.

On top of the stove this looks like two concentric heating elements. You can turn on one or both. Turning on both is sometimes called a “fast boil” burner.

The best solution the industry has come up with is to put two control surfaces into one knob, so instead of the control surface being a full circle it’s a half circle.

There’s no way to make all the knobs match in appearance unless all the burners have optional double burner operation.

source: am appliance salesman.

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- LazaroFilm@lemmy.film ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Yes they’re double burners but the Lo -> Hi rotation is different for each position which is infuriating, but only mildly.
  
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  - intensely_human@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    I see what you mean.
    
    What they should do is make the rule: “clockwise is hotter”, and make all the LO…HI arcs increase in the clockwise direction.
    
    Then no matter which burner you’re adjusting, you know it’s a clockwise movement.
    
    They should also have a little LED light bar that changes length to show how high that burner’s setting. As you turn clockwise, it lengthens toward “full on”.
    
    The LED light bar should light up whenever a knob is touched.
    
    Need high temp LEDs too I guess.
    
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Zoldyck@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
MILDLY infuriating!?

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- LazaroFilm@lemmy.film ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Depends on which direction you turn the knob. If can be Mild ore Extremely…
  
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LillianVS@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
That should be illegal, throw it out

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Carter@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Lo for the same reason it’s hi and not high.

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- Cycadophyta@lemmy.cafe ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  They put Med so why not Low?
  
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  - Metatronz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Got a ‘Sim’ in there too. Simmer?
    
    Just, why?
    
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jerrimu@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Ohhh, that’s just a left-handed stove.

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- LazaroFilm@lemmy.film ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Look closer, not all the knobs are left handed.
  
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  - blanketswithsmallpox@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    That just means it's a 4th dimensional left handed stove.
    
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BearPear@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
My brain is on fire seeing this

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- NicerLemmyUser@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Maybe because the knobs in your brain also have different directions for high and low?
  
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NegativeLookBehind@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
"Which one should we put on the stove?"

"Yes."

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ultratiem@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Please stop, he’s already dead….

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SafetyGoggles@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Using “Low” would be more infuriating than “Lo”.

The full words are “High” (not “Hi”) and “Low”, so to save space they use the first two letters “Hi” and “Lo”. If they use “Hi” and “Low” it would be inconsistent, e.g. more infuriating.

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- LazaroFilm@lemmy.film ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  I thought it was just saying hellow.
  
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FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Confusing, but nice that they have the simmer spot marked. I always find that hard to gauge.

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- LazaroFilm@lemmy.film ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
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MossyFeathers@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
What the actual fuck?

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RushingSquirrel@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Last one is the only one that’s out of place to me. They all have counter clockwise when solo mode, when 2 modes available, low is at the bottom and high is at the top, makes sense, but the last one is different.

Also, why would it be Low? They’re using 2 letters, Hi and Lo are different enough to identify. I’d have to check mine, but using Hi/Lo seems normal.

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- wjrii@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Ywah, the last one is different because it has three modes, but in a vacuum it seems like they could have set it up closer to the paradigm of the two-mode knobs. Depending on how those knobs are actually wired though, there may be a good reason why it was easier to make it that way.
  
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Holzkohlen@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
That is literally unusable. How is this even legal?

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gon@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
wtf is this

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kemsat@lemmy.villa-straylight.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Dude, yeah, what is with those things.

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fubo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
One office I worked in had a toaster with a knob where “off” is almost all the way to the left.

Turning the knob to the right lets you control the toasting time, like any other knob-based timer.

But if you turn it left from the “off” position, that’s the “stay on” position.

So if you’d set the timer, and then wanted to cancel it, you can’t just turn it all the way left like on any other knob timer. If you do that, you’re telling it to stay on forever and eventually scorch the table and set off the fire alarm.

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Unsaved5831@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
What witchcraft is this on earth!? Crime against humanity?

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Nacktmull@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
This is actually pretty infuriating for me to look at and I´m getting violent impulses from it. You should at least have put a trigger warning before it you monster!

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Techmaster@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
youtu.be/Na2PxlnZQZI

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