cross-posted from: lemmy.world/post/18302836
I’m just picturing that robot from Star Trek (the one thinking about “this sentence is false”) going “huh” and then blowing up…
Oooooohhhhhhh I see I get it now
Simples.
Submitted 4 months ago by haerrii@feddit.org to aneurysmposting@sopuli.xyz
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Mothra@mander.xyz 4 months ago
Speculater@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Is the testosterone in the room with you right now?
Mothra@mander.xyz 4 months ago
Never, yes. But vagina testosterone tho
Skoobie@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
Degender most sports and separate by weight class. Perfect? No. Solves this idiotic mess of a worldwide scandal? Yes.
Now, about all the doping from Russia and China…
areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 4 months ago
This doesn’t work as out of a man and woman of the same weight the man will still be stronger on average. Women have a higher body fat percentage, and less muscle in their upper body simply because they have less testosterone. You would probably have to use testosterone as a way of categorizing people in sport. It sucks but there is no other fair way I can see.
orcrist@lemm.ee 4 months ago
There is no “fair”. You can’t have it. Tall people usually win in basketball. Narrow builds do better in marathons. People older for their age bracket (as kids) are more likely to enter the NHL (growing up they’re bigger so they get more playing time). So yeah, whatever you do, most of us are starting with a big disadvantage at any sport, even if we put in the same effort our whole lives.
That’s life. The question is how to make rules knowing all of that.
Skoobie@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
I literally said it wasn’t a perfect solution, just that it would solve these silly gender scandals. I stand by it.
Pelicanen@sopuli.xyz 4 months ago
Even with the same muscle mass, it appears men might be stronger in the upper body compared to women (“A Comparison between Male and Female Athletes in Relative Strength and Power Performances”, Sandro Bartolomei, et al. ) so I’m not sure checking for any one single variable would make things fair.
DrFuggles@feddit.org 4 months ago
that’s gotta be satire
peto@lemm.ee 4 months ago
I think it’s more a reductio and absurdum.
snooggums@midwest.social 4 months ago
There is zero chance it is satire. No chance at all. No possible way it could be satire.Zilch, zero, zip.
Unpossible.
kamiheku@sopuli.xyz 4 months ago
Ya think?
LoamImprovement@beehaw.org 4 months ago
Wow, it’s almost like trying to measure and codify man- and womanhood is inherently dangerous and phobic, even to cisgendered people who don’t meet the nebulous standards set by bigots who are obsessed with other people’s genitals, and we should maybe just stop doing that and let people identify themselves however they want?
Just a thought.
Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz 4 months ago
Vagina Man is the hero we needed.
theilleists@lemmy.world 4 months ago
And his faithful sidekick, Boypussy.
echodot@feddit.uk 4 months ago
And to a certain extent wanted as well
EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Pussyman, just a giant pussy in a cape -Stephen lynch superheroes
BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Babyslime is the woman who decided to have no prenatal care at all for her second pregnancy, and delivered a baby with mermaid syndrome (sirenomelia) which is linked to uncontrolled maternal gestational diabetes, and when the baby was breech and she was in labour at like 28 weeks, the obstetrician told her he had to do a C section, and she spent the rest of her time on her blog claiming she was medically raped or birth raped. She is a shitty person.
dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 4 months ago
It she just reblogged Teaboot. Did Teaboot do anything awful that can be used to invalidate the point being made here?
xilliah@beehaw.org 4 months ago
I dunno I just like genitals
Timecircleline@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
Car door hook hand
stefenauris@pawb.social 4 months ago
I’m laughing so hard I’m crying for real XD
muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 4 months ago
Jesus what’s so hard about XX and XY?
RandomWalker@lemmy.world 4 months ago
One reason is because your chromosomes don’t control genital development, your hormones do. So if you’re born with XY chromosomes and your testosterone receptors don’t work then you’ll develop female genitals and a generally female physiology (minus reproductive organs).
This is all separate from gender expression obviously, but things are hard because the world is complex. If you haven’t seen or experienced this complexity in your life, that’s fine. But don’t diminish the complexity of other’s experiences just because they don’t match your own.
Naich@lemmings.world 4 months ago
I was going to say this, but far more rudely. Thanks for explaining calmly!
zout@fedia.io 4 months ago
Nothing. But there are cases of men with XX, women with XY and some others like XXY or X0.
Ultraviolet@lemmy.world 4 months ago
As a general rule, when it comes to any science, the version you learn in grade school is extremely simplified to the point of being almost entirely useless. To draw a parallel to physics, if you ask a physicist “how many states of matter are there?”, they’d probably consider it a difficult question, the exact distinction between a distinct state and a subset/variant of a state, but any complete model has at least 20 states. What you’re saying is the equivalent of “what’s so hard about solid, liquid and gas?”
apotheotic@beehaw.org 4 months ago
Quite a lot actually! Chromosomes aren’t a good basis for biological sex.
Credit to @jarfil@beehaw.org for where I first saw this image (and obviously original credit to the original tweeter, @RebeccaRHelm)
muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 4 months ago
So we have 4 independent variable
Chromosomal sex Genetic sex Hormonal sex Cells sex
Put it all into a matrix I would love to see the population distribution across this table.
Surly we can simply define a subset of the combinations. Cos the only other solution is to simply through out the concept of gender divisions but that just ain’t gonna work.
AShadyRaven@lemmy.zip 4 months ago
Nothing at all
This post is talking about people born XXY or X0 (just one x chromosome and nothing else)
or people born with a mixture of XY and XX chromosomes, such as discordant chimerism
Genetic sex is not binary, its a bellcurve. This is not a theory or an idea or a matter of debate among biologists.
The only people on earth who think its only XX and XY are those who are uneducated on the topic
but now you know better!!
muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 4 months ago
Can somebody please enlighten me with some numbers on the commonality of said deviations. I always assumed they made up such a small percentage it wasnt relevent same as people with 4 or 6 fingers.
match@pawb.social 4 months ago
pipows@lemmy.today 4 months ago
S I M P L E
rain_worl@lemmy.world 2 months ago
transcript (manual):
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It’s really simple. If you’re born with a vagina and you naturally have elevated testosterone levels, you’re a man. If you have a vagina and you take testosterone, you’re a woman. But also if you have a vagina, you’ll never be a man. But also if you have higher testosterone then you were never a woman. Woman never yes man a vagina testosterone no was an elevated. Vagina man.
Naich@lemmings.world 4 months ago
It’s intentional and pointing out the absurdness of what the TERFs are saying.