Interspecies linguistics

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• sodalite@slrpnk.net ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  pspsps

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• yesman@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Only humans have language. Inter-species communication is nothing special. Rattlesnakes are named for their ability to communicate cross species.

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  • blackluster117@possumpat.io ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    “Either back it up or get fucked up.”

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  • Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    curious how it’s always humans saying that they’re the only ones who have language…

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    • Droechai@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      it’s only humans capable of the sub communication protocol called English that says that

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  • TSG_Asmodeus@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Only humans have language.

    Animal language.

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  • Semjaza@lemmynsfw.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    They identified nouns and adjectives in prairie dog communication, that also seems to vary with regional dialects. I’ll try to remember to dig up a source when I’m not out and about later.

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    • tamal3@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Weren’t science communicators talking about parts of speech in whale communication last year, too? They’re using AI to identify patterns and variations in speech.

      Here’s a general (though older) overview of whale language: www.britannica.com/…/the-language-of-whales

      Here’s a more recent article taking about using AI to identify patterns in speech: scitechdaily.com/ai-decodes-sperm-whale-language-…

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    • Murdeth@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I appreciate your disclaimers and context of your sources.

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    • SSJMarx@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That’s cool as hell and animals definitely have all kinds of methods of communication that I’m sure we haven’t figured out yet - but it’s not language.

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  • oxideseven@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    What is this strange group on Lenny that is so anti animal intelligence?

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  • na_th_an@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    A rattlesnake can certainly communicate using sound, but is that language? Bright colors can communicate ideas of “do not eat this” across species as well, but they wouldn’t fit my mental model of a language.

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    • shneancy@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      what is language than making sounds to convey meaning and then decoding said sounds to understand their meaning

      human language is incredibly complex but a bee just buzzing a particular buzz that means “bear nearby” counts as a valid form of linguistic communication imo

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  • MindTraveller@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Koko the gorilla would beg to differ

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    • Droechai@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Just gonna drop this, I haven’t done a deep dive in sources thoufh

      youtu.be/e7wFotDKEF4?si=earmcx6FpV4PLDfN

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• Haggunenons@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  For anyone interested we have a commu itt about this! !digitalbioacoustics@lemmy.world

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  • LouSpooner@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Thanks!

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• Emmie@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Why do we use sound hmmm all over the world when thinking about something?

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  • occhionaut@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Maybe its for a similar reason to why cats purr; vibration make brain feel different in a way that fascilitates thought?

    source im fuckin g insame

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    • Dasus@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      G insame in the membrane

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  • rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    that’s the sound of our brains venting the thinking gas

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  • Dasus@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    )Sign language is even more universal (early hominids def would’ve had signs before proper spoken language).

    If I hold out my arm, my palm towards you, you’d probably know what I mean.

    Like this.

    ![](lemmy.world/…/1228f8a9-0d17-4a3f-83fe-01e91525003…

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    • chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That you’re a cop businessman?

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  • flora_explora@beehaw.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Maybe it also has to do with the human anatomy? Like, when people are thinking they probably have their mouth closed and maybe even purse their lips. The sound you can make in this pose is really just hmm I guess.

    OK yeah, the next question would then be why we use certain facial expressions…

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• moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I watch as kitty run towards me, I say gogogo and kitty run faster

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• jabathekek@sopuli.xyz ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I do this to cats I see and they say “No.” and sit down.

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  • KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    My cat follows all my commands. I say “ignore me and do nothing else I say” and he ignores me and continues with his day.

    No,but I use similar tempos to call him and he comes.

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• propter_hog@hexbear.net ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  So you’re telling me that when a cat chirps when it sees a bird through the window, it’s really saying “here, birdie birdie birdie” to it?

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  • Icalasari@fedia.io ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Nah, it's trying to imitate the bird and is going, "No cat here, only friend"

    Cats do have limited mimicry abilities - It's probably why there are so many videos of cats "speaking" human words - adapting that mostly unused mimicry skill to get the human's attention with sounds it notices humans use to get the attention of other humans

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    • smeg@feddit.uk ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Cats do have limited mimicry abilities

      Meows are supposedly mimicking human baby noises, definitely works to get our attention!

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