There’s a huge difference between defending yourself and mocking a person you just hurt.
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FireRetardant@lemmy.world 2 weeks agoWould you rather just let the kid be at the whim of the intruder? How much sympathy should a kid be expected to give to someone who broke into his home?
This could have easily turned into a barricaded suspect with a hostage.
ValiantDust@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
FireRetardant@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The kid is 11, they probably don’t think much about the bigger picture in situations like this and hes probably just proud he’s alive and wanted to be funny cause hes on camera. I’d probably rub the bad idea in their face a bit to if someone broke into my home and threatened my family.
It isn’t like this kid just assaulted a random guy, there was a genuine threat here.
alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
It isn’t like this kid just assaulted a random guy, there was a genuine threat here.
And that threat was running away when the child shot him in the back.
Maalus@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
What sort of argument is that. Dude broke into a house. At that point he is a threat and doesn’t magically turn into a harmless person just because they turn around. They might just be jumping into cover to get their own gun. They might be running to a second burglar for help. The first rule in any emergency situation is your safety is paramount. Yours alone. A firefighter won’t jump into a burning building to save a puppy, a medic won’t risk his life to constrain a madman with a knife. They are there to do a specific job - and heroics only looks good on TV or in movies.
Judging situations in hindsight is always so easy. Being in that situation is something else entirely. But it is better to be judged by twelve than carried by six. Again, your safety first - don’t administer aid on a running highway, don’t get closer to burning cars, don’t try to “save” someone getting beaten up. Don’t be a hero.
spankmonkey@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Did you know that people who run away can also run back? People under stress don’t have the foresight to know if the threat is really over.
Discouraging shooting at fleeing people is good, but there will be situations where fleeing doesn’t mean the end of the threat so we can’t say it is always wrong. Like if someone said they would be back (not the case here), I would sure cut the defending person slack for shooting the fleeing person who threatened future violence.
psud@aussie.zone 2 weeks ago
That’s how the law would treat an adult. “That’s not defending your home, that’s murdering a man who isn’t a threat” is what the adult would be told. They’d want a very good lawyer, they also would have wanted to aim better so there was only their side of the story
We don’t apply the law like that against children* because children don’t have the ability to control themselves or think before acting that adults have.
Have a bit of empathy for the kid.
*Except when it’s very newsworthy
IMNOTCRAZYINSTITUTION@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
do you think getting insulted really hurt the intruder more than the bullet?
redisdead@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
No person got hurt here.
Shardikprime@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Based take, criminals are not people
Juliana@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
His Trying to complicate situation
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
A bloody body should trigger horror and disgust.
FireRetardant@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Your brain is pretty good at ignoring those kinds of reactions when adrenaline is pumping and you are worried about your own safety. Same reason people who are typically nonviolent can throw a good punch if assaulted. We are still animals and we have fight or flight instincts that trigger fast.
redisdead@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
These people lead boring lives and never felt the effects of adrenalin.
desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
why? what benifit is there to being disgusted and horrified?
spankmonkey@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Surgeons would disagree.
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Oh yes. Totally normal people, those surgeons.
Shardikprime@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
…Yes?
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Unless, of course, this kid has access to television.
alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Mocking someone who is bleeding out in front of you is literal psychopath behavior.
FireRetardant@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Breaking into a house and threatening a child is pyschopath behavior.
The kid is 11, he is going to need a long time to process what has happen. There was adrenaline pumping, genuine risk to his life and a culture of self defense. Did you expect him to suddenly grab a medkit and approach someone larger and older than him who may not be fully incapacitated and already threatened him?
blackbelt352@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I don’t expect a kid to do much of anything after shooting a person, intruder or not, not mock them for being in pain of a literal bullet wound.
Granted if the parents taught him how to use a firearm they should also have taught him how to use a medical pack because accidents can and do happen with firearms and he should be able to patch up himself or someone else if an accident does happen.
GBU_28@lemm.ee 2 weeks ago
The hell? Do not approach an intruder, get safe and get the police there.
FireRetardant@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
No civilian should be approaching a wounder intruder. They could have a concealed weapon like a knife or a gun.
When the intruder broke in, they probably had a tough guy attitude and that attitude changed real quick when they felt pain.
redisdead@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Lol if someone breaks into my home the last thing I’m going to reach out for is a medkit.
vinnymac@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Context is everything and you don’t have any. I’d be mocking the meth head who tried to kill 11 year old me as well. This kid is a hero.
alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Wait the kid shot the man as he was trying to hop a fence and run away? Again, this is the behavior of actual psychopaths.
vinnymac@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yes a child, not a grow adult with the ability to make perfect judgement calls, shot in the direction of his attacker. Then continued to shoot as the attacker was fleeing the scene.
Don’t be naive, a grown adult who was in a panic in that circumstance would not be viewed as a psychopath, let alone a child.
Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 2 weeks ago
Gotta make sure they keep running.
bdonvr@thelemmy.club 2 weeks ago
Context doesn’t help - laughing at someone you shot is extremely disturbing behavior. 10x so for a child.
The correct response is fear/adrenaline/panic or something to that effect.
TherapyGary@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
There is no “correct” response to traumatic events
vinnymac@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Can you tell me more about how context isn’t important in this circumstance?
The child told news reporter this after the event occurred. We don’t even know whether or not he laughed like, “heh wow that was scary”. Or maniacally like the Joker.
redisdead@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The correct response when shooting a criminal who broke into your home and threatened you is my, indeed, not to laugh, but to reload and keep shooting.
IMNOTCRAZYINSTITUTION@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
your life has never been threatened by another person and it shows. the kid probably was feeling a rush of both fear and then self confidence because he successfully defended himself, which manifested in clowning on the fucker who was trying to kill him. it’s very easy for you to judge and diagnose him from behind your screen but if you were in the situation, how do you know you’d act differently? or more likely you’d probably cower in the corner and get yourself killed because you’re too concerned with the intruder’s feelings to do anything about it
pimento64@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
RIP to the teachers who had to put up with you
explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
That is just a super mean thing to say. There’s another person at the other end of the computers.
pimento64@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
Maybe if he hadn’t said something idiotic and then belligerently doubled down, people wouldn’t figure that he must have been an insufferable child who gave his teachers headaches by being obstinate over nothing every day. With an attitude like his I reckon he probably fought tooth and nail against accepting PEMDAS. He should have been more considerate to people at the other end of the computers by not pinching off stupid ideas, but when he voluntarily chose to, he chose to accept criticism of it. I’m not being mean, I’m giving him what he asked for. If I wanted to be mean, I’d say that if I ever decide to kill myself I’ll climb up to his number of chromosomes and jump down to his IQ, but I don’t, so I won’t say that.
disgrunty@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
He survived. He was shot in the leg and got treatment in the hospital. The child did not stand over him while he was bleeding out. That part was a joke made by someone responding to the article.