assuming you have a public transit system that operates at night, and is worth a damn.
I know there are places where buses stop running long before the bars close.
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abbiistabbii@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 weeks ago
Know what doesn’t refuse to pick you up if you’re pished? The Night Bus.
PUBLIC TRANSPORT WINS AGAIN! INVEST IN PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION!
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
abbiistabbii@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 weeks ago
Okay, maybe you should lobby your local government for better public transport? Because let’s be honest with you, you can’t have a healthy nightlife without public transport at night.
If the patrons of bars and clubs only have the option to drive to your location and drive back, they’re either not going to drink as much as they would, not going to visit as often because they’re going to have to drop stacks on a cab, or they’re going to drink and drive.
You can’t have a healthy nightlife without public transport at night. The only places that I can think of if I can get away with having no public transport and having some form of nightlife are wee villages, because you can walk home.
If you want a healthy nightlife, invest in public transport. If you don’t want to invest in public transport, prepare to spend your nights drinking alone in your house.
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Thats on the base assumption that your local municipality wants a healthy nightlife.
Which is a brave assumption to make.
abbiistabbii@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
A city not wanting to have a healthy nightlife, to me, is a bit like a city not wanting to have shops: it’s a royally stupid position to make.
The nighttime economy is hella important to any city because it’s a big money spinner. Here you have a load of people who either have finished work or have the weekend off and they’re looking for shit to do that isn’t staring at the TV drinking tinnies they bought on the way home from work and they wanna go out to bars with their friends, or to a restaurant, or a show. Those bars, clubs, restaurants, theaters and take outs make money and pay tax which the city can use for shit they need. Oh, and those Pubs? They can act as community nexuses, so there’s a fucking social benefit too. The idea of a city having no nightlife is genuinely a dumber idea than when they turned cities into car centric hellholes, and that was a very dumb idea that most cities are struggling to deal with even now.
Want to know how universal nightlife is? Cultures that don’t drink have nightlife. Muslim countries have night markets and cafes because it’s almost a universal thing that after work, at night, people wanna hang out and do things.
I have been to villages with nightlife, several pubs where locals and visitors alike go to have a drink or maybe see live music. I have been to hamlets with a pub open until 11 where people go to vibe with a pint. Hell, even dormtowns I have been to have at least one watering hole. If your authorities are fighting against nightlife, then they are ultra-authoritarian asshats who hate money and human joy.
0ops@piefed.zip 4 weeks ago
BE PUNK IN DRUBLIC
Zachariah@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
and cops
doingthestuff@lemy.lol 4 weeks ago
Damn I wish. There are zero options but cars where I live.
1984@lemmy.today 4 weeks ago
Lol. People say take the bus, but who the hell wants to be on a bus with drunk people?
Public transport is the worst environment ever already, even before the drunks. It’s a choice only when we can’t drive for some reason.
abbiistabbii@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 weeks ago
This is the most American takeaway I have heard. It’s not my fault your country doesn’t invest in public transport, resulting in dead cities with no third places, endless traffic, no walkability and it seems, from you, rampant snobbish classism.
Also you going home from a bar, a place that is famously full of drunk people, complaining about drunk people on the bus while you’re coming home from the place where all those drunk people are coming from is a bit like complaining about fursuiters on the bus while you’re coming home from a fursuit convention.
Also drunk people on the bus is 100% better than the alternatives, that is drunk people driving or zero bars in your city because their customers can’t come home after drinking without dropping a stack just to get home.
Where I come from we invested in public transport, and when I say we invest in public transport, I mean we invest in public transport. Everyone takes the bus here, regardless of who they are, because It’s the easiest way to get into town and back because the alternative is unviable and inconvenient, especially if you are going out on the pish. We have rich office workers on the bus alongside poor gig workers. And the nightbuses are used by both pishheads and night workers to get home or to work or wherever, and it’s not too bad, not anymore annoying than pishheads at the bars at least.
America doesn’t invest in public transport because they want to force you to drive, they don’t want to give you the choice, they keep public transport either non-existent or useless, so you don’t have a choice but to drop thousands of dollars every year just to leave your house. This has resulted in a situation where most American cities look like Glorified motorway junctions dotted with unwalkable housing estates and strip malls. No, that is not because the city was founded in 1950 when people started buying cars, most American cities were founded much older than that and had public transport systems, but got rid of them to force people to drive, literally demolishing the entire city to turn it into a collection of strip malls and steroids.
You want a healthy nightlife, invest in public transport and nightbuses. Don’t want to invest in that, have fun with drunk drivers, expensive taxis, no nightlife, and drinking alone in your house because you can’t fucking leave your house without a car.
1984@lemmy.today 4 weeks ago
It’s a good comment, even though I’m not American and I wasn’t returning home from the pub. :) . But sure, if public transport was actually good, it would be nice to use it. Currently it sucks extreamly much and is pretty much like transporting cattle from A to B to as low cost as possible.
kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I felt extreamly depressed to see all the weird, broken people around me, acting like morons.
I was going to give you shit, but then I realized this is exactly how I feel whenever I drive anywhere…
1984@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
I dont see people when I drive really… That’s what I like about it. Just me, the car and some nice music.
Zanacross@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I get the bus and it’s fine but maybe I’m one of those “broken morons”
1984@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
Depends how you act. Are you screaming in the bus, talking on the phone, taking selfies, playing music?
marzhall@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I take the bus regularly, it’s fine. Heard this shit all my life, then lost my license due to epilepsy and thought “oh crap.” Turns out it’s fine and actually a great way to dodge giving a shit about where I park.
Bakkoda@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I’m not going back to shitting my pants in a common taxi cab.
SourDragon@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Yeah. It’s much classier to shit one’s pants in the backseat of a total stranger’s car. 💩👖
Bakkoda@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
That’s private transportation to you good sir!
SourDragon@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
But it isn’t private though?
eestileib@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
I’m getting used to the smell of peed pants on the bus.
It’s just ammonia.
abbiistabbii@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 weeks ago
This is something I’m to European to understand.
Not my fault your country disinvested in public transport to force your to drive, killing off third spaces for the enrichment of car companies.
eestileib@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
I just said I’m riding the bus, where did this come from?
zewm@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Public transit stops at midnight where I live. Won’t work for someone out at 2am.
hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
Last time we did the smart thing and we stayed till first train in the morning. Was also cheaper to drink till dawn and eat shit in McDonald’s than take taxi home 🤣
MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
In the U.S. there are only two places that serve alcohol 24/7 (New York and Las Vegas). Pretty much everywhere else stops serving at 2am
chocrates@piefed.world 4 weeks ago
New Orleans is all night as far as I am aware
hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
Truly a fascist country
tmyakal@infosec.pub 4 weeks ago
Big difference between serving alcohol and selling alcohol. When I was doing 3rd shift, we’d get out at 5AM, head straight for the gas station, and pour tallboys into paper cups and drink in front of the store.
First bus home came by at 6:30. I was usually pretty buzzed by then.
kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
What if I told you lots of places don’t follow the rules
Junkers_Klunker@feddit.dk 4 weeks ago
Better start early then 🤷♂️
fushuan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 weeks ago
Sounds like a you problem. I dont live in a place where they run 24/7 but they run long enough at night on holidays. Also, if you are partying until 2am don’t be a weak sauce, party until 6 and then next day transit starts.