Oh only a billion tons of anti-matter. Good thing we’ve already made a few nanograms, so in a billion years or so we’ll have plenty.
Comment on HD 137010 b
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 8 hours ago
Found a calculator: www.calctool.org/relativity/space-travel
Assuming we want to accelerate at a constant 1g for half of the travel and then brake at 1g for the second half of the travel we would need 151 years to get there but only 9.794 years would pass on the ship. Depending on the mass of the ship we would need coupe million/billion tons of fuel (anti-matter).
Thorry@feddit.org 6 hours ago
Hotzilla@sopuli.xyz 1 hour ago
Yeah, and antimatter converts to pure energy with e=mc^2 what means that 60 grams contains like Hiroshima worth of energy
SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 7 hours ago
50% chance of being in the habitable zone
Imagine sitting on a spaceship for 151 years just to discover your parents’ bet was wrong
Zolidus@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
9.974 years
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 4 hours ago
It’s only 9 years for you!
SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 2 hours ago
Ohhhhhhh, ok that’s clever!
Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 hours ago
How can it take 151 years to go 150 light years when not close to lightspeed most of the time? I get the 9 year thing, but 151 years seems wrong.
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 8 hours ago
Smarter people than me on the internet calculate that at constant 1g you only need 2.5 years to get very close to speed of light. So I guess you accelerate fast enough and reach ‘almost speed of light’ very early in your travel and total time is almost as if you traveled at speed of light the whole time.
Tiresia@slrpnk.net 1 hour ago
The main advantage of keeping accelerating when you’re at >90% of the speed of light is that it means you arrive faster in subjective time. You could take 160 years to get there and use ten times less fuel (or thereabouts), but the subjective travel time would go up by decades.
trolololol@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
Not that smarter when they forget you’re running out of gas by the Oort cloud. Gotta spread
christianismcapitalism there and build a petrol station before we go further.Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 4 hours ago
Earth’s gravity being what it is a blessing cause it means we can do interstellar travel faster.
Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 8 hours ago
The closer you get to lightspeed, the slower you accelerate (from an outside perspective). It’s actually close to lightspeed for most of the time.
domdanial@reddthat.com 8 hours ago
I just used the calc, it’s closer to 152 years. Which I assume means acceleration at 1g for about a year to reach .999c, and deceleration for the same time.
I just confirmed with dV= a*t, a year of 1g(9.8m/s/s) gets you just over the speed of light. I think it’s more complicated than that, If I remember right relativistic speeds require more and more energy to accelerate so you can’t ever “reach” light speed.
degenerate_neutron_matter@fedia.io 8 hours ago
Most of the journey is spent traveling very close to light speed. It's not a linear ramping up and ramping down of speed, since it takes more energy to accelerate the closer you get to light speed. Rather you quickly accelerate to near light speed and spend most of the trip working on that last small bit of velocity.
skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 8 hours ago
Constant acceleration at 9.8m/s^2 in a given direction will bring you close to the speed of light eventually, but yeah, I’m also not super sure how this math checks out
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
So a bit quicker than terraforming Venus by chucking several oceans worth of ice at it, and some cyanobactera once it cools down in a few hundred thousand years.
Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 4 hours ago
I’m guessing you probably go faster than 0.9C after six months, given that the difference is 1 year.
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
Time for Bussard o invent those collectors
Venat0r@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
And you’ll only need 315.3 million GWh per ~80kg person… plus 3.941 million GWh per kg of supplies, equipment and ship weight…
trolololol@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
Great Scott!
Venator@lemmy.nz 3 hours ago
Oh and also thats just the pure energy for acceleration/deceleration, not life support, steering, thrust ineffeciencies etc… 😅
ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 7 hours ago
Your statement makes things sound a bit confusing.
To clarify, if you are inside the ship, 152 years will pass.
FUCKING_CUNO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 hours ago
No, the people in the ship will experience less time then 152 years. Relativity tells us the faster an observer is moving, the slower it moves through time.
m0darn@lemmy.ca 54 minutes ago
What about accelerating 1g for 16 hours of ‘day’, then 8 hours of 3g ‘night’. It would be one hell of a weighted blanket lol.