Comment on same shit every day, on god

• OrganicMustard@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Some solar is also boiling water

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  • voracitude@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    And some of it is boiling salt!

    Which then boils water, of course.

    But some of it is electrons from photonic impact, no water involved! In the process of energy generation anyway. Statistically and perhaps somewhat ironically, the electrons from that photonic impact may well be used to boil water regardless… Humans just fucking love boiling water.

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    • blazeknave@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Isn’t salt like the main bees knees these days?

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      • 24_at_the_withers@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        I don’t know, but the Ivanpah solar power station near Primm NV, which is a set of three molten salt towers is reportedly getting decommissioned, removed, and replaced with PV panels. Word is PV technology had improved in efficiency and stopped in cost enough that the whole molten salt thing is no longer economically viable, at least in comparison.

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      • voracitude@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Oh, absolutely. It’s very cool technology! Molten salt is corrosive as fuck, but that just kinda makes molten salt solar towers even more awesome.

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    • brbposting@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      :D

      Something all the way down something

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  • stormeuh@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    And zapping birds!

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    • fartographer@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      They did fix that pretty quickly, but what a classic mad scientist blunder that would turn a well meaning researcher into a villain in any action hero film.

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  • Redjard@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    And some fusion is direct to current in coils. The z-pinch style approaches mainly.

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  • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    that’s why IMHO it’s more important to classify the core coupling mechanism (e.g. photoelectric effect, electromagnetic effect) instead of classifying the total energy in -> energy out types.

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• xx3rawr@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Expect for solar, it’s all just flowy stuff through spinny stuff: wind, water, steam. GRAAAAAAAAAA

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  • bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Good ol’ mill.

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  • M137@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Spinny stuff is basically the universe on all scales, so it makes sense. And that’s fucking cool, IMO.

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  • rockerface@lemmy.cafe ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Solar is very tiny flowy stuff through very tiny spinny stuff

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  • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    you forgot the electrochemical battery

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• Skullgrid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  And wind.

  wind is just the effects of premade steam

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• TachyonTele@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Hydro also uses steam

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  • hades@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    In liquid form?

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    • someguy3@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Condensed steam.

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    • judgyweevil@feddit.it ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      It’s still the same turbine shit

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      • anomnom@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        It’s all turbines, but quite dissimilar turbines.

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• fullsquare@awful.systems ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  and fuel cells

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  • I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    And waves/tidal, but now we’re getting into the really niche types.

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    • hades@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      i knew i was forgetting something

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• JakenVeina@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  I dunno if “power plant” quite fits for solar and wind. Definitely for Hydro, though.

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  • JasonDJ@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    “Power Plant” won’t be a fitting term until we can generate electricity (at a viable scale) from chloroplasts.

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    • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      fun fact: chloroplasts generate an electric potential across the cell membrane during photosynthesis. essentially, they have membrane proteins in their chloroplast membranes that push electrons from one side of the membrane to the other side whenever a photon hits the protein. It’s essentially a natural photovoltaic cell.

      That electric potential is then used to create ATP in nature, while we just directly extract the electrical power through cables.

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    • fartographer@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Even better if you can use it to power a humanoid robot for a real world plant golem.

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      • TachyonTele@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Isn’t that the goal?

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    • JATtho@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      You should look at mitochondria:

      • The power plant of the cell.
      • Runs on a proton-gradient.
      • ATP synthase is essentially a molecular turbine and a generator.
      • oh. a turbine. Damm thing spins ~18000 rpm at medium throttle, pumping out elec- ATP. ATP.

      Oops… it’s turbines all the way down.

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      • JasonDJ@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        runs on proton gradient

        So I can launch it from Lutris?

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  • dublet@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I dunno if “power plant” quite fits for solar and wind

    Why not?

    The First Law of Thermodynamics: Energy Cannot Be Created or Destroyed

    Fossil fuel power plants merely convert chemical energy into another type.

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    • JakenVeina@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Just that “power plant” I think most people associate with large enclosed facilities that house power generating equipment, which doesn’t quite describe wind and solar farms. Hence that most people refer to them as “farms”.

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• Shanedino@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Isnt hydro in a small part powered by steam just post condensation steam.

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  • phlegmy@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I do enjoy a nice glass of post condensation steam on occasion

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• KittyCat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  And theoretically a massive proton exchange plant.

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• HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Are these really power plants? I thought they were called field or farm or something else

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