Expect for solar, it’s all just flowy stuff through spinny stuff: wind, water, steam. GRAAAAAAAAAA
Comment on same shit every day, on god
hades@feddit.uk 10 months agoExcept solar. And wind. And hydro.
xx3rawr@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 10 months ago
Good ol’ mill.
M137@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Spinny stuff is basically the universe on all scales, so it makes sense. And that’s fucking cool, IMO.
rockerface@lemmy.cafe 10 months ago
Solar is very tiny flowy stuff through very tiny spinny stuff
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 10 months ago
you forgot the electrochemical battery
Skullgrid@lemmy.world 10 months ago
And wind.
wind is just the effects of premade steam
TachyonTele@piefed.social 10 months ago
Hydro also uses steam
hades@feddit.uk 10 months ago
In liquid form?
someguy3@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Condensed steam.
judgyweevil@feddit.it 10 months ago
It’s still the same turbine shit
anomnom@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
It’s all turbines, but quite dissimilar turbines.
fullsquare@awful.systems 10 months ago
and fuel cells
I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 10 months ago
And waves/tidal, but now we’re getting into the really niche types.
hades@feddit.uk 10 months ago
i knew i was forgetting something
JakenVeina@midwest.social 10 months ago
I dunno if “power plant” quite fits for solar and wind. Definitely for Hydro, though.
JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 10 months ago
“Power Plant” won’t be a fitting term until we can generate electricity (at a viable scale) from chloroplasts.
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 10 months ago
fun fact: chloroplasts generate an electric potential across the cell membrane during photosynthesis. essentially, they have membrane proteins in their chloroplast membranes that push electrons from one side of the membrane to the other side whenever a photon hits the protein. It’s essentially a natural photovoltaic cell.
That electric potential is then used to create ATP in nature, while we just directly extract the electrical power through cables.
fartographer@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Even better if you can use it to power a humanoid robot for a real world plant golem.
TachyonTele@piefed.social 10 months ago
Isn’t that the goal?
JATtho@lemmy.world 10 months ago
You should look at mitochondria:
- The power plant of the cell.
- Runs on a proton-gradient.
- ATP synthase is essentially a molecular turbine and a generator.
- oh. a turbine. Damm thing spins ~18000 rpm at medium throttle, pumping out elec- ATP. ATP.
Oops… it’s turbines all the way down.
JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 10 months ago
runs on proton gradient
So I can launch it from Lutris?
dublet@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I dunno if “power plant” quite fits for solar and wind
Why not?
The First Law of Thermodynamics: Energy Cannot Be Created or Destroyed
Fossil fuel power plants merely convert chemical energy into another type.
JakenVeina@midwest.social 10 months ago
Just that “power plant” I think most people associate with large enclosed facilities that house power generating equipment, which doesn’t quite describe wind and solar farms. Hence that most people refer to them as “farms”.
Shanedino@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Isnt hydro in a small part powered by steam just post condensation steam.
phlegmy@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
I do enjoy a nice glass of post condensation steam on occasion
KittyCat@lemmy.world 10 months ago
And theoretically a massive proton exchange plant.
HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
Are these really power plants? I thought they were called field or farm or something else
OrganicMustard@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Some solar is also boiling water
voracitude@lemmy.world 10 months ago
And some of it is boiling salt!
Which then boils water, of course.
But some of it is electrons from photonic impact, no water involved! In the process of energy generation anyway. Statistically and perhaps somewhat ironically, the electrons from that photonic impact may well be used to boil water regardless… Humans just fucking love boiling water.
blazeknave@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Isn’t salt like the main bees knees these days?
24_at_the_withers@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I don’t know, but the Ivanpah solar power station near Primm NV, which is a set of three molten salt towers is reportedly getting decommissioned, removed, and replaced with PV panels. Word is PV technology had improved in efficiency and stopped in cost enough that the whole molten salt thing is no longer economically viable, at least in comparison.
voracitude@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Oh, absolutely. It’s very cool technology! Molten salt is corrosive as fuck, but that just kinda makes molten salt solar towers even more awesome.
brbposting@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
:D
Something all the way down something
stormeuh@lemmy.world 10 months ago
And zapping birds!
fartographer@lemmy.world 10 months ago
They did fix that pretty quickly, but what a classic mad scientist blunder that would turn a well meaning researcher into a villain in any action hero film.
Redjard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 months ago
And some fusion is direct to current in coils. The z-pinch style approaches mainly.
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 10 months ago
that’s why IMHO it’s more important to classify the core coupling mechanism (e.g. photoelectric effect, electromagnetic effect) instead of classifying the total energy in -> energy out types.