This is why regulations are important.
Functional regulations are why you don’t vote for conservatives.
Source: I live in a valley that used to have way worse air quality until stricter SMOG and gasoline refinement laws took effect.
New Delhi - during lockdown vs now
Submitted 5 days ago by sanitation@lemmy.today to mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world
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DarkFuture@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Grannymcgrannypants@lemmy.nz 5 days ago
I was born in Christchurch, New Zealand, and as a child in the 70s and 80s we had smog warnings where you weren’t allowed outside.
It’s not a big city, but the topography meant that pollution would sometimes get trapped over the city by the surrounding hills. Obviously it’s not like that now, but I’m sure it’s why we all got asthma.
SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip 5 days ago
This is kind of misleading. Delhi commonly experiences fog in the winter months. Since the same weather conditions that form fog (atmospheric stability) also cause pollution to accumulate rather than blow away, the city gets AQI spikes and fog at the same time. The photo on the right is smog, but also representative of what you’d see if there were no air pollution.
mbp@slrpnk.net 4 days ago
For real. I can cherry pick photos of Seattle that gives the safe effect.
pedz@lemmy.ca 4 days ago
It’s one of the most disappointing legacy of the pandemic for me. The people.
The environment got better. Some people were not forced to commute any longer. We had an opportunity to start freeing ourselves from capitalism and move into a post-capitalist society.
But no. We doubled down on capitalism and even went into tribalism. I read so many comments of people saying they were missing their time lone from their family while stuck in traffic, and were eager to go back to the office. Now a few years later, those that could still work from home or remotely are demanded to go back to their office. Even if it’s not necessary. For team spirit!
I didn’t have high hopes about climate change and our policies before the pandemic. And now I’m entirely cynical and convinced we will not do anything. We will not reach any goals to avoid climate change. We will go head first into it. Because fuck you, I’m not letting go of my car and my lifestyle! I want cheap gas! Give me cheap gas!
ivanafterall@lemmy.world 4 days ago
To say nothing of the mask shit. People really are so disappointing.
mirshafie@europe.pub 4 days ago
I mean, if everyone in a workplace is almost always working from home, there’s basically no way for new people to get into the job. I know that commutes can be brutal in some parts of the world, but maybe you should fix that instead of putting on the bandaid that everyone should just work remotely.
You do get a lot more done by actually interacting with your colleagues. Plus it can be pretty nice as well. We should expect it to be nice to go to work and interact with the people who do the same job. If it’s not nice, something is wrong and we should fix it.
Also, if we don’t see our colleagues, how in the fuck are we going to organize?
pedz@lemmy.ca 4 days ago
It depends on your type of job. I have been working remotely on and off for a bit more than a decade, and video calls are a thing. Virtual meetings are a thing. I can call my coworkers, see them, talk to them. Even if I’m not in front of them. We can organize just fine without the needs to smell each others farts.
And as an introvert, I prefer it that way. We’re not all extroverts that want to waste multiple hours of our life, unpaid, stuck in traffic, just so others can “interact face to face” with us.
In fact, you kind of sound like my manager that wants me to go back to the office a few days a week for “team spirit”. My team is all remote and we’ve been working like this for years. But now, suddenly, it’s not good enough. She wants to see our faces to foster team spirit. And to be quite honest, I will quit before being forced to needlessly spend energy to go to the office.
I know a lot of other people in that situation. In my country, federal workers that could do their job remotely were given that right during the pandemic. And now, after a few years, apparently, they really really need to be in an office and supervised for their job to be done.
To me, again, depending on your type of work, the organization “problem” is made up BS just so managers can surveil and monitor “their” employees.
blackberry28@sh.itjust.works 4 days ago
You make it sound it’s a black or white thing (not racially ofc, but in a binary sense). Hybrid working would solve both issues; it reduces traffic without losing the social component completely. Most people don’t need/want 100% home office; just having 2-3 days a week where you can work from home would already be a complete gamechanger, because you gain a lot of flexibility.
GolfFoxtrotLima@sh.itjust.works 4 days ago
This unfortunately, too real. It’s really unfortunate that way too many people like them exist
fritobugger2017@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Greetings from Hanoi. We had a similar experience here.
fireweed@lemmy.world 5 days ago
I’ve cross-posted this to “Actually Infuriating” where it belongs.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 days ago
they wont have to worry about sunburns, because there is no sun available.
Polisheocket@lemmy.zip 4 days ago
We should go no pollution days, so no cars, only renewable energy use. Weekends you can pollute with cars
IWW4@lemmy.zip 5 days ago
Good lord… things were healthier for them during the pandemic.
It is very similar to how people in the UK were actually healthier during WWII as the food rationing program meant they weren’t eating a total shit diet.
The_v@lemmy.world 5 days ago
They also got more exercise as more of the population was engaged in physical labor (women’s land army) and factory work to produce food and war goods.
IWW4@lemmy.zip 5 days ago
Oh that is an interesting part I never knew.
tal@lemmy.today 5 days ago
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_pollution_in_Delhi
Air pollution in Delhi, the capital of India, was found to be one of the most lethal of any city in the world in an August 2022 study of 7,000 world cities by the US-based Health Effects Institute.[2] Air pollution in India is estimated to kill about 2 million people every year. India has the world’s highest death rate from chronic respiratory diseases and asthma according to the World Health Organization.[3] In Delhi, poor air quality has irreversibly damaged the lungs of 2.2 million children.
On 25 November 2019, the Supreme Court of India expressed their sentiments on the pollution in Delhi, saying “Delhi has become worse than narak (hell)”.[4] Supreme Court Justice Arun Mishra remarked that it is “better to get explosives, (and) kill everyone.”[5]
During the COVID-19 pandemic lockdown in India, the air quality in Delhi significantly improved.[6][7]
India’s Ministry of Earth Sciences published a research paper in October 2018 attributing almost 41% of air pollution to vehicular emissions, 21.5% to dust and 18% to industrial emissions.[8]
If it’s mostly vehicle emissions, I wonder how far people there typically go. Like, if it’s people who are only driving around the city, that might be a good candidate for EV use.
dil@piefed.zip 5 days ago
Highway there is like literal hell, 50 ppl sharing one lane, you are quite literally bumper to bumper on the highway going highway speeds, youll see 3-5 ppl sharing one moped somehow, like poor families that need to travel for whatever reason.
Somehow no one crashes, no turn signals, just constant never ending honking which lowkey feels like sonar. (they can tell the distance without looking)
PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 5 days ago
I think that at this point they should look into building a New New Delhi
gergolippai@lemmy.world 4 days ago
typical… it’s always nocer out when you can not go out.
Uri@infosec.pub 4 days ago
Damn
chunes@lemmy.world 4 days ago
til lemmy has never heard of inversions. Then they spread pictures of inversions like it’s pollution.
Please never think you’re smarter than reddit. You ain’t.
Doomsider@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Hmm having lived on an inversion area I am going to have to ask what do you think is “in” an inversion!?
chunes@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Several days’ worth of accumulated pollution trapped in a tiny area, which was my whole point to begin with. Passing this off as regular pollution is wild.
PapaSquat@lemmy.ml 5 days ago
And a brand new sun gets buried alive roughly twelve hours after it sprouts. /s
Without additional data, this only tells me that visibility is lower and the lighting has changed.
Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 5 days ago
The Earth can heal if we stop stabbing it.
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 5 days ago
If you could just snap your fingers and half the world’s population would disappear would you?
Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 5 days ago
If I could snap my fingers and all the world’s billionaires disappear I would, or oil refineries. Not people though. Humans aren’t the virus.
alekwithak@lemmy.world 5 days ago
If I could snap my fingers and have people wake up from the capitalist propaganda they’ve been forced their whole lives, I would. Population is not the issue, it’s a deflection.
cloudshouter@lemmy.zip 4 days ago
Straight half? No. A select 3% a year for five years? Maybe. If you’ve seen any of the realistic critiques of the Thanos snap you know that doesn’t go well. Trimming down the fascists, oligarchs, nationalist, theocrats, tech barons, and similar greed and hate mongers should be enough without crashing everything.
snowdriftissue@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Holy fuck why does Lemmy have so many ecofascists
ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 4 days ago
I would probably get botox for my chin first and then think about it.
Squizzy@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Id just have the wealthiest die 5 billion times
PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Without a second thought
yermaw@sh.itjust.works 4 days ago
We could just behave, we dont need to kill half of everyone.
DarkFuture@lemmy.world 5 days ago
I was on Thanos’ side the entire time.
Railcar8095@lemmy.world 5 days ago
*Starts dancing flamenco
P1nkman@lemmy.world 4 days ago
But it’s fun giving the earth a frontal lobotomy, only so we can watch 30-second “AI” generated slop, causing our brains to become numb!
DarkFuture@lemmy.world 5 days ago
I hate to be a Debbie Downer, but we’re going to rape the shit out of this planet until it’s a lifeless husk. It is in our nature. And it’s not like we have to rape the whole thing. Just the surface.
Even if we got really good at recycling, we’ll always produce waste and use resources that can’t be reproduced in a reasonable timeframe. 8 billion of us and counting. Raping.
Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 5 days ago
Its not our nature, this entire thing is huffing the momentum of a couple thousand rich assholes who own everything. What we are wired to do is not change jack shit until we get fucked up. If we could conquer that and throw these assholes out you’ll see a better world in a single generation.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Username checks all the way out
SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 4 days ago
No dumb dumb, it’s capitalism. A temporary system that has a beginning, and will in one way or another, end. We can change things. You’re not a slave to some nebulous “human nature”. Now, log off, stop doom scrolling, and go do something about it