The audience is not supposed to know what’s being said.
Subtitles
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cattywampas@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
arctanthrope@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I’ve definitely seen movies where common Spanish words or phrases that an anglophone audience would be expected to understand are transcribed as simply “[speaking Spanish]”
e.g. “that hombre is loco” becomes “that [speaking Spanish] is [speaking Spanish]”
gray@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
Second this! I very often encounter phrases in foreign languages I understand when I turn up the volume, but the subtitles person has been too lazy to write out or translate.
FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
I noticed this in Meet The Robinson’s. A guy says “Madames and monsuiers” and the subtitle says “speaking french” as if the average English speaker doesn’t know what those words mean
_stranger_@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I really wish the subtitles said [ intentionally not translated]. I never know if the subtitles are just broken, if I’m actually using half-assed closed captioning, or if it’s the director’s intent.
marcos@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The audience better not speak Japanese.
bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 3 weeks ago
Then it shouldn’t be said.
Least they could do is to add the Japanese words to the subtitles for those who can understand Japanese but are hard of hearing.
ohulancutash@feddit.uk 3 weeks ago
They do. That’s another type of subtitle track.
Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
The audience is not supposed to know what’s being said.
Well, translating from languages that are more relaxed regarding swear words might have an impact on the PG rating in the US, so you might be right, but for the wrong reasons :-)
FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
This is unfair to bilingual deaf people.
For example, there’s an episode of Bluey with a lot of French. I’m really bad at French but I do know a little of it. I am able to understand some of the dialogue.
Why should a deaf person not have the same right as me to interpret dialogue in a language they happen to understand or understand bits of?
cattywampas@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It’s the director’s intention that the audience not understand what is being said, probably to align with the main character in the situation. It’s no less fair to bilingual deaf people than it is to anyone else who can’t understand whatever language is being spoken.
yermaw@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
My favourite is when the show did have translation but its overruled by the optional subtitles.
FenrirIII@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Rental Family had this problem. Lots of Japanese and English interwoven with “[Japanese]” appearing and blocking the built-in subtitles
slaacaa@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Wife and I watched Conclave a few years ago in cinema. There were no subtitles at all, even for the extensive and important parts were everybody spoke Italian
Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
I have used live translation more than a few times in those situations.
antianarchist@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
ARISU
CanadianCarl@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Wait, they are making a third season? I thought it ended at season 2.
billwashere@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I hate this so much but i guess they do it because the director doesn’t want you to know what is being said?
This would be a good use of AI, a universal real time close captioning regardless of language. Although if you had the movie at home maybe you could create a tool to create the CC before hand? My random thoughts…
frog@feddit.uk 3 weeks ago
Why go through all those resources for this when scripts for the movie probably exist or it can be done by fans?
mastertigurius@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Or maybe the people creating the subtitles should be given enough time and resources to be able to do their job well?
Arshem@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
That or they didn’t give the translation to the captioner. Not the captioner’s job to translate so they put in [speaking in a foreign language] instead.
W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
I know that’s a “Squid Game” card but is that a still from “Alice in Borderland”?
phonics@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I think so. Better than squid game imo.
crozilla@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I like it when the subtitles out a character yer not supposed to see or know about yet:
DAVE: [Breathing heavily] 🤣
otter@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Or when it spoils a joke or jump scare a few seconds early
“You’re not going to shoot me, you don’t have the…”