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Differences of Opinion by Wendy Cope
Submitted 1 week ago by fossilesque@mander.xyz to science_memes@mander.xyz
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itrealgood@mander.xyz 1 week ago
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 6 days ago
He listens not. She gets annoyed.
Earth’s a damn oblate spheroid.SmoothOperator@lemmy.world 1 week ago
The meter doesn’t work :(
anotherspinelessdem@lemmy.ml 6 days ago
She cannot win, he will not hear; And yet it shall remain a sphere
ivanafterall@lemmy.world 1 week ago
She cannot win, he will not hear at all; The planet keeps on being spherical.
Phantaloons@piefed.zip 1 week ago
The earth is procedurally generated around my surroundings and is simulated on the backend everywhere else.
myotheraccount@lemmy.world 6 days ago
For optimization reasons, only the slice you currently look at is actually computed completely, the rest is just approximated. That’s why closing your eyes when you’re about to crash into something actually helps: chances are in the lower approximation, you’ll just clip through the wall a bit.
Tetragrade@leminal.space 6 days ago
Yeah but that’s because you’re the main character, the rest of us just have to deal with low LoD :(
heartSagan5@lemmy.zip 1 week ago
Misogynists use “woke” as a way to stop listening.
grrgyle@slrpnk.net 1 week ago
I actually thought the last word was “flat” but I guess I misread it the first time 😵💫 completely changes the tone.
One way, it’s like it doesn’t matter what ignoramuses believe—reality is what it is; the other way it’s like the powerful make the reality through force.
JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 1 week ago
What are the stars? They are bits of fire a few kilometres away.
We could reach them if we wanted to. Or we could blot them out.
The earth is the centre of the universe. The sun and the stars go round it.
For certain purposes, of course, that is not true. When we navigate the ocean, or when we predict an eclipse, we often find it convenient to assume that the earth goes round the sun and that the stars are millions upon millions of kilometres away.
But what of it?
Do you suppose it is beyond us to produce a dual system of astronomy?
The stars can be near or distant, according as we need them.
Do you suppose our mathematicians are unequal to that?
Have you forgotten doublethink?
wpb@lemmy.world 6 days ago
I think having the final word be “flat” makes it so much better. It opens up the poem to a much wider set of interpretations. There’s yours, but you can also derive this statement about male dominance in hetero relationships, for example.
grrgyle@slrpnk.net 5 days ago
Oh yeah totally, the poem is already so gendered.
The “he” and “she” lend themselves to commenting on cishet dynamics, patriarchy; related incumbent power structures in the way “he” in the poem dismisses “her” arguments and tone and just waits her out.
It reminds me so much of the toxic relationships I know of where the woman’s perspective is viewed as emotional, radical, and so not privileged with serious consideration.
Fedizen@lemmy.world 6 days ago
I once had an elder coworker who said all the dinosaurs died in Noah’s great flood. I’d try reasoning with him but ultimately it was way more fun to ask him if god could create a rock that he couldn’t lift.
IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf 11 hours ago
evolution doesnt contradict the Bible The Bible says Earth and humans were created in 7 days but those are 7 days for God, and we dont know how long a day is for God, and it was written before the 24 hour system
Fedizen@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
There’s people out there that think everything written in the King James version of the bible are literally true and allegories do not exist.
They refuse to comprehend that it could be any other way.
tmyakal@infosec.pub 5 days ago
I used to work with a guy who was also a Methodist pastor. Most of our conversations were perfectly normal and fine, but every once in a while he would be like, “So where do you think the government is hiding the nephilim fossils?”
Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Or ask if round earth is a massive conspiracy, what’s the angle? How does getting people to believe in a flat earth rather than a round one serve an agenda to the point where even a simple test that could prove the flatness always “goes wrong”? And if they say that the experimenters get threatened or something, why do they generally remain as confused flat earthers afterwards? If they were going to be threatened, why half-ass it and let them continue pushing flat earth instead of making them change sides?
Fedizen@lemmy.world 5 days ago
I tend to find people who are a bit crazy/conspiracy brained tend to easily accept other people’s motives as being insane as their own reasoning.
Similar to how one can’t logic themselves into a position they fought against logic to get into, I don’t think people can usually empathize their way out of a position they fought against empathy to get into. There’s
Imo that’s why ridicule is maybe more effective even though it will entrench some of them. The conspiracy aspect is hardest to explain with raw quantity though. Its like “there are like 10-20 million people in america who interface with NASA and plane pilots and like 200 million americans who interact with airlines and can vouch for every flight path, you think all these people are all in cahoots?”
silver@das-eck.haus 1 week ago
Sums up where we’ve arrived as a society
Nangijala@feddit.dk 1 week ago
Wendy Cope has a healthy way to cope with frustrating interactions, I see. Maybe I should start writing poems too, when I run into human shapes brick walls.
grrgyle@slrpnk.net 1 week ago
Powerful…
altphoto@lemmy.today 6 days ago
I assume this is in grade school between kids. If you’re looking for a girlfriend this will not work. If you’re a husband and would like some romance this will not work.
peaceful_world_view@lemmy.world 1 week ago
She cannot win, he knows it all The planet keeps on being a ball
ch00f@lemmy.world 6 days ago
E pur si muove
Entaty_13@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Y’all are all crazy, clearly the earth is a donut
Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 6 days ago
Look at this guy, believing that the Earth exists.
unknown@piefed.social 1 week ago
Lmao, I am going to piss so many people off with this. Thank you for sharing it!
kernelle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 week ago
“You can’t reason a person out of a situation they didn’t use reason for to begin with” is a lesson everyone learns eventually…
hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Yeah did that with my dad. As soon as he expressed that he doesn’t believe in conventional scientific methodology and academic consensus, I stopped discussing any of those topics with him.
No basis to discuss if he doesn’t even consider evidence for disproving his theories.
jballs@sh.itjust.works 1 week ago
How could you not believe in the scientific method? Propose a hypothesis, test for hypothesis, confirm or review your hypothesis, repeat.
Saying you don’t believe in that basically is the same as stating you’re dumb as hell and don’t believe in proving ideas.
BillyClark@piefed.social 1 week ago
There was an episode of South Park where the kids claimed that a word that we view as a bigoted slur against gay men actually referred to people who loudly ride motorcycles at night.
If reason doesn’t work for flat earthers, maybe we should use one of the well-known euphemisms that we no longer use for people whose mental abilities are far below average. You know, like, “special”.
W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 week ago
You can say the word on the internet.
mineralfellow@lemmy.world 6 days ago
Not entirely true. I grew up fundamentalist, learned scientific reasoning, and got out of it.
kernelle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 days ago
Following your upbringing is as reasonable as it gets. Going against what you believe isn’t just happening because you followed someone else’s reasoning, it’s something you navigate by yourself over a period of time.