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oh and it's also a crime

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  • wander1236@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    It’s probably called sideloading because historically you weren’t downloading from an app store but instead transferring from your computer. The term itself is ancient sh.itjust.works/comment/23484915

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    • funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      yeah trying to explain tethering to a non technical person because it used to have a cable and now doesn’t

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      • Entertainmeonly@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I remember we called it a hook.

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  • yermaw@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Image

    ^We’re monsters^!

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  • pewpew@feddit.it ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Hold on babe, I’m sideloading Firefox on my Arch install

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    • GamingChairModel@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Arch’s package management is actually the ideal, in my opinion. Official repositories for the stuff the distro maintainers want to officially support, a user-maintained AUR for other common packages, and the ability to build your own software with the Arch Build System, and letting pacman know where everything is. In a sense, the stuff in the official repositories have a privileged position, and you should be aware of the difference between the AUR and the official repositories, but you’re still always in control of what software is installed.

      The AUR packages and user-specific builds can be thought of as side loading, and the distinction can matter in some circumstances. So I’m ok with having another name for different installation/upgrade/update methods.

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      • basxto@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        And it even supports signed packages by now

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  • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Uploading: Sends thing from your device.

    Downloading: Receives thing fron your device.

    Sideloading: ???

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    • Grostleton@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Sideloading is an all encompassing term for when you change the physical orientation of your device so that up/down becomes right/left.

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      • JackbyDev@programming.dev ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Google bans screen rotation

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      • WereCat@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        But there’s a time delay for that hence the “loading” term

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    • DmMacniel@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Downloading a thing to your device to sideload it to your companion device.

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  • WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Good, I love crime now.

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    • lyralycan@sh.itjust.works ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Greatest con the government ever pulled was convincing the masses that state law = right. Way I see it, there are five primary laws and each region’s society and ruler values their hierarchy independently: State, Ethical/Natural, Religious, Corporate, Moral. Some say moral law is subjective, well I say moral code is often shared, especially when it’s a question of life.

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    • chortle_tortle@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Now??

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  • vane@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Your phone ? There are 2 US companies that own 99.9% of phones.

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    • imjustmsk@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      PinePhone 🙂

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  • thisbenzingring@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    so is F-Droid sideloading?

    ^/me just starting some shit^

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    • pewpew@feddit.it ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      According to Google yes, because the Play Store is the “official” way of installing software.

      But personally I hate this mentality and I don’t want a crentralized and controlled way of installing software

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      • JackbyDev@programming.dev ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Yes, exactly, adopting the term side loading into our common vernacular is exactly what they want us to do. They want us to view installing apps from places other than the Play Store as Bad™ and Dangerous™ so they can better control what we do.

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      • excral@feddit.org ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Didn’t Apple lose a lawsuit which forced them to open iOS to third party app stores? How does Google expect to get away with effectively shutting out third party app stores after that?

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      • ITGuyLevi@programming.dev ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        If I have to install an app store I don’t consider it to be the ‘official’ method. By default my phone doesn’t have it, a lot of android forks don’t, but if I have to break the law to add it, I guess I’ll stick with manually installing packages.

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    • GreenKnight23@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      sideloading isn’t even a real word.

      it’s not even a legal term.

      sideloading is installing software on your physical device.

      unless installing software is illegal across all platforms it’s legally unsound to block the ability to “sideload”.

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  • Saapas@piefed.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Sideloading is an old and well established term for it when it comes to phones though. Sideloading is installing stuff outside of app stores

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    • Hazel@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Before phones that was the only way to install apps though.

      Maybe we should have a term for the inverse, like ‘wallgardening’, or ‘bootlocking’, or ‘corputing’, or ‘inshilling’? 🤔

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      • Saapas@piefed.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Before phones

        But the discussion is specifically about phones..? I’ve never heard anyone use sideloading in a different context

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      • ITGuyLevi@programming.dev ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        What about before app stores were a thing?

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    • hesh@quokk.au ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      The point is that today the term only serves to delegitimize what should be accepted practice (installing whatever software you want on the machine you paid for) by making it sound like some secondary/shady behavior. Thus allowing phone manufacturers to maintain their walled gardens and control over consumers.

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      • Saapas@piefed.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Tbf these days it is secondary behaviour. Most people aren’t installing stuff outside of app stores on their phones.

        It would just feel weird changing the words we use because companies started using the same terms too. We had it first!

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  • tyler@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Where on the entire planet is sideloading a crime?

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    • TheEntity@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Not where, when. Most likely in a few months, a year tops.

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      • tyler@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Where? Why? Your when makes no sense. Laws take time to craft, so if it was going to happen in a year tops you’d already be seeing these laws being crafted and going through chambers. Where on the planet are these laws being crafted?

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  • libre_warrior@lemmy.ml ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    only might gives name to the thing they deem important. We are just reactionaries.

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