Anon reads Into the Wild

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• Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  From my understanding, all the locals where this happened think this dude is a colossal dumbass.

  I think his legacy is slowly changing though, and people are less impressed by his antics today than when it happened.

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  • mech@feddit.org ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    He wasn’t a dumbass, he was just suicidal.
    He first left his privileged life, then his family and friends, then society.
    If he actually wanted to keep living, he could have left the bus and simply walked back, 3 days before his provisions ran out (it takes 6 hours to get to the trailhead).
    But he stayed, even though he didn’t have the skills to live off the land. He accepted death, until it came close, then he regretted his decision and tried to get out.

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    • BartyDeCanter@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Privileged is a complicated term for his life. On one hand, yes from the outside, and especially as presented in the movie, it seems like he had a typically idyllic upper middle class life. But if you do any digging into it, you find out that his father was an extremely volatile, violent abuser and his mom wasn’t much better. That sort of childhood trauma is a hell of a thing and absolutely impacts someone’s mental state.

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    • themaninblack@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      To me, this is the simplest and most plausible explanation.

      Somewhat related but it’s odd to me how many people I’ve met that feel so strongly negatively about him. Maybe as a herd instinct to warn others?

      He wasn’t exceptionally selfish as he had no serious responsibilities.

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    • Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I think he was stranded because of a flooded river though? From memory there was a reason he couldn’t just walk out.

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• spicytuna62@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I agree with some of Chris’s viewpoints. Materialism is stupid. Buying shit for the sake of acquiring shit is stupid. Not that you should never have anything sentimental, but those kinds of things are tied to people or events.

  But yeah, guy kinda lost me when he decided to camp in the Alaskan bush with no survival skills, no experience dressing a carcass, no foraging skills, and very little equipment. As others pointed out, he went there to die, then changed his mind when it was too late. A rational, non-suicidal person would have spent months preparing for this outing.

  Basically everyone who jumped from the Golden Gate Bridge and lived (only ~2% of jumpers) regretted doing it before they hit the water. Chris jumped from the bridge and changed his mind halfway down. Going to Alaska wasn’t some brave choice to be free. You can do that anywhere in the Lower 48. It was a cry for help masked as a revolutionary idea.

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  • captcha_incorrect@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Basically everyone who jumped from the Golden Gate Bridge and lived (only ~2% of jumpers) regretted doing it before they hit the water.

    My teacher in biology back in school explained that this was due to hormones being released something something close to death something something. In essence, it was not a “choice” to regret jumping, but rather a biological response. So you would regret it wether you wanted to or not, so to say.
    ^Can’t^ ^give^ ^you^ ^a^ ^source^ ^since^ ^I^ ^don’t^ ^have^ ^one.^

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    • nop@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      …fandom.com/…/The_View_From_Halfway_Down_(Poem)

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• btsax@reddthat.com ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_McCandless#Death

  Turns out no one knew that some of the plants he was eating were poisonous until after he died

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  • SchwertImStein@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    probably *

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    • chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      That can be inserted several different locations in the sentence and create a different meaning.

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• Inucune@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Every bad situation leading up to his trip into Alaska, someone bailed him out of the situation. There was no one at the bus in Alaska to bail him out.

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• bearboiblake@pawb.social ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I have a theory that his family was abusive and he learned to distrust strangers and became convinced that he needed to always stand on his own two feet because nobody would ever truly have his back. I’ve been through a similar phase in my life caused by neglect and abuse throughout my childhood and adolescence. Could be totally wrong ofc but it seems to fit for me

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  • topherclay@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Is that theory based on a hunch you had, or is it maybe based on the memoir that his sister wrote where she says so?

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    • bearboiblake@pawb.social ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It was a hunch, I didn’t know about any memoir, what’s it called?

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  • rumschlumpel@feddit.org ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Does this “stand on your own” thing include not reading survivalist books, bringing maps or assorted tools? Because that’s what I would do if I wanted to live in the wilds. Seems more likely that he was suicidal but changed his mind when it was already too late.

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    • bearboiblake@pawb.social ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      He did read survivalist books, there was a book about identifying edible plants he had with him when he died. He even hired a botany/foraging tutor I believe. Ultimately though it’s kinda the same thing, if he was suicidal, it would have been because of the abuse, most likely. Personally, I don’t think it holds much water, suicidal people don’t typically go off and live in the wildernees to starve to death, they usually kill themselves a bit more directly

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• QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  This sounds like the most beautiful deconstruction of Ayn Rand I’ve ever heard.

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  • InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Mmmm… Checks out

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• mech@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  How do you manage to starve in a heated school bus literally on a trail, a few hours walk from a tourist lodge in the direction you came from?

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  • Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    By being a fucking moron. He was out of food and weak, and by the time a thought sparked in his brain, the small stream he crossed on his way there was a big river, because of snow melt.

    Anyone on a trail would know that, because they’re not fucking morons. Except for dumb entitled Chris who thought nature would just provide and that solo survival would be easy.

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  • vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Lean meats. He was mostly eating rabbits and other small game, this is problematic since they aren’t particularly nutritional by themselves. He did take down a caribou with a .22 which is impressive, but he didn’t know how to cure the meat so most of it rotted away.

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    • mech@feddit.org ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      He also ate plants he didn’t know, which were poisonous and shut down his digestive tract.
      But that was all after he made his fatal mistake, which was staying put when his actual food ran out instead of just walking back.

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    • GalacticSushi@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The term for this is protein poisoning or protein toxicity. Less formally, rabbit starvation.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protein_toxicity

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• lessthanluigi@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Coinhippiepro

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• AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Siri, what is the American Dream?

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