Valve announces three new products: the Steam Frame, Steam Machine and Steam Controller

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https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/valve-announces-steam-machine-frame-controller/

Following on from the success of the Steam Deck, Valve is creating its very own ecosystem of products. The Steam Frame, Steam Machine, and Steam Controller are all set to launch in the new year. We’ve tried each of them and here’s what you need to know about each one.

“From the Frame to the Controller to the Machine, we’re a fairly small industrial design team here, and we really made sure it felt like a family of devices, even to the slightest detail,” Clement Gallois, a designer at Valve, tells me during a recent visit to Valve HQ. “How it feels, the buttons, how they react… everything belongs and works together kind of seamlessly.”

For more detail, make sure to check out our in-depth stories linked below:
[Steam Frame:](https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/vr-hardware/steam-frame-specs-availability/) Valve's new wireless VR headset
[Steam Machine:](https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/gaming-pcs/steam-machine-specs-availability/) Compact living room gaming box
[Steam Controller:](https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/controllers/steam-controller-specs-availability-hands-on/) A controller to replace your mouse

Valve’s official video announcement.

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Console_Modder@sh.itjust.works ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
GabeCube

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- SalamenceFury@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  You know what’s fucking funny? I went to search for that on Tumblr and found this fucking post from ELEVEN YEARS AGO.
  
  Image
  
  Bro was not given the gift of prophecy, he got straight up sniped in the dome by Apollo with a 90 MPH shot LMAO
  
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  - Prove_your_argument@piefed.social ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    This absolutely must be a skin for the fucking thing. If they want to be baller they can include a handle that sticks on too.
    
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baronvonj@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Intriguing. Eager to see the price of the Steam Machine.

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- BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Some are estimating around $800, but Steam has commented that affordability is a primary focus.
  
  I feel like they’ve got to beat console prices. I’m hoping we see prices similar to steam deck at launch complete with varying tiers.
  
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  - tyrant@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Gamers Nexus reported cost will be in line with budget PCs and not competing with console pricing
    
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  - sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    My guess would be that around $800 sounds roughly right… if you try to approximate a small form factor pc with… roughly those specs?
    
    You’d kinda end up around there, but… the architecture is so nonstandard, its hard to say.
    
    You gotta think of it as an SFF PC not a console.
    
    Because its closer to an SFF PC than it is to a console.
    
    Right like, this thing is also a PC, its a laptop or w/e if you plug a mouse and keyboard into it.
    
    I run desktop mode on my Deck all the time, use it as a laptop of sorts.
    
    As far as tiers go, GN has said there are plans for a 512 GB and 2TB variant, so, there’s at least two tiers… I would not expect like, more or less GDDR5/6 RAM variants though, the whole thing is built too much around the exact power draw and thermal load.
    
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  - baronvonj@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Agree it has be price competitive with consoles. Though I wonder if making a docked Deck be on equal footing with the Machine would have been a better use of R&D. Maybe simply improving having the dock house an eGPU and bumping the Deck specs.
    
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- Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Me too. I’m not really into VR but I definitely want the GabeCube.
  
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  - baronvonj@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    I have a PSVR2 and I don’t consider the capability of VR to be its failure. I have to assume it’s just that much harder and more expensive to develop for VR. Like the FPS genre is hugely successful, and that’s such a natural fit for VR.
    
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- Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  My thoughts exactly. I’m a console gamer. So a straightforward all-in-one box is great.
  
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  - sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    … and this also just is a linux computer.
    
    Just go into desktop mode, plug in a mouse and keyboard, your TV is your monitor.
    
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- sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  You might say that that would be a red letter day.
  
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SalamenceFury@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
So we got the Gabecube? That’s funny.

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- Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  All hail to the GabeCube!
  
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DundasStation@lemmy.ca ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
As long as they don’t F up the price of the Steam Machine, then this would be wonderful for both the gaming and Linux communities.

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- 123@programming.dev ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  In before SSD, HD, RAM, GPU price hikes from AI bullshit kill the pricing strategies.
  
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  - Wahots@pawb.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Don’t forget the steep tariffs!
    
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Katana314@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
I suppose it’s not the first time Valve has counted to 3; in terms of releasing 3 projects. They released the Orange Box which had 3 games in it. But they never put out a 3rd iteration of things.

So expect this to be the last Steam Controller and Steam Machine, if we count the old 3p hardware Linux boxes and Index headset they helped with.

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- I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Are you talking about the Steam Link?
  
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MyNameIsAtticus@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
I would love the Machine as a case for PCs. I’m not sure how feasible it is (knowing PCs probably not) but i’ve already got a gaming PC that’s far more powerful in terms of GPU and RAM. I’d love to be able to shove it in there and have the best of both. That light on the front has me especially interested despite just being a light

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- sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Well, basically, I wrote out a whole brainstorming session, but it boils down to this:
  
  The Steam Machine case is way too small to be a general PC case.
  
  Its smaller and more compact than even most small form factor, ITX, homebuilt or custom built PCs, that have actual inbuilt graphics capability
  
  But!
  
  If Valve, or somebody, reworked the internal MoBo to have more of a pure CPU type onboard chip, with SODIMM sys RAM, not an APU with LPDDR RAMlike what we see here… and then also gave it a Thunderbolt port, or hell, maybe just a second SSD slot, which you could then use an OcuLink with…
  
  Well, now you have roughly a system box, that shunts off the GPU part into an eGPU box, sitting next to it.
  
  That would/could allow you to basically plug in any fullsize desktop GPU you want, down to a a less expensive, laptop grade or whatever.
  
  So thats basically a laptop + eGPU setup, and would allow you to, within the main system, upgrade RAM and storage mem as you please, and that should, theoretically, be able to fit into the Steam Machine case, or something very close to it.
  
  Then you just have a second box next to it with a second power supply, that seats some kind of GPU, and connects via thunder bolt or oculink, which can do data transfer at speeds that you’d normally only see within/on the motherboard itself.
  
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Gork@sopuli.xyz ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Now we just need a power modification so that all of these devices run on actual steam, and controlled by valves.

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- sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  The Machine, the desktop/living room console… It has a 300W PSU. GN has the Valve designer saying its generally just a tad over 200W of draw.
  
  So uh… that’s practically nothing, you could probably actually power that out of a homebuilt steam turbine.
  
  For reference, an Nvidia 5090 needs 575W… just by itself.
  
  An AMD 9070, non XT, uses 220W, approximately what the entire Steam Machines uses.
  
  The Steam Machine does not even have a 3 prong connector.
  
  Its just two, like a power brick for a console.
  
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  - Korhaka@sopuli.xyz ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Already did with steamdeck to be fair
    
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- Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  That shouldn’t be too hard.
  
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MaggiWuerze@feddit.org ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Half Life 3 as Launch title?

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- datavoid@sh.itjust.works ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  100% confirmed
  
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- rtxn@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Imagine. Product is released, people buy the Steam Machine, and Half-Life 3 is just… there. Preinstalled on some of the units. The buyers post it on the internet and get called bullshitters. Then Half-Life 3 is officially announced the next day. Gaben ascends to godhood. He Has Cooked.
  
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  - Matty_r@programming.dev ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    
    Half-Life 3 is an AI interactive movie with a 3 hour run time.
    
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Gonzako@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
I’m certainly lining up for the steam controller to see how it feels.

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DaTingGoBrrr@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
I am at least getting two controllers but the steam frame and the steam machine looks super cool too!

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Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Okay what the hell is up with the Frame?

It says it is a stand alone headset and doesn’t need a PC… Right before it goes on to say it’s meant to be used with a PC but wirelessly. Is it stand alone or not? If I have Beat Saber in my library, do I have to stream it from an aftual dedicated PC or can it run straight off the headset like I can with a Quest?

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- rainwall@piefed.social ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Its both, based on their article. Its an ARM chip they have a translation layer called FEX to handle, so it should be able to play most any steam game. Native vulkan games will apparently run even better.
  
  In standalone mode, the intergrated chip will use about 20w, so you will get about 1 hour of playtime on it because of the 20wh battery. In streaming mode, the graphocs will be better, and the power use cuts to about 6w, so it can go 3-4 hours.
  
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  - Rooster326@programming.dev ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Just want to add an hour in VR is a LOT longer than 1 hour of flat screen gaming.
    
    You’re usually on your feet, holding your arms up high, waving them around ,likely squatting - a lot and you’ve got a screen blaring into your eyes with constant data.
    
    Most people won’t do 1 hour sessions on the regular, forget a 3-4 hour session without being put down to charge for while you take a break.
    
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- Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  It can do both.
  
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degen@midwest.social ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

Valve can indeed count to three.

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Steam controller

New

(X) doubt

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- sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  It… is new though.
  
  I had one of the older original ones from a decade back, this one is significantly different, totally different form factor, amongst other details and changes.
  
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  - degen@midwest.social ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    😂
    
    all I’m sayin’ is it’s kinda silly to call the Steam Controller a new product like the other two
    
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