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Submitted ⁨⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨mesamunefire@piefed.social⁩ to ⁨videos@lemmy.world⁩

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Og_nwXhAeeA

Why Everybody is Leaving Spotify

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  • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    platforming someone like joe roegan,

    paying next to nothing for small music artists, and enshittifying with ads and other things,

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  • jnb@lemmy.ca ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I’ll tldr this without even watching the video:

    • Spotify is not paying artists enough / not paying artists at all if streams are under a certain amount; the gist is it’s industry fuckery though at play
    • Spotify CEO is funding a military company
    • Some people are fed up with music they like being removed from the platform, whether by the artist or otherwise.
    • Plus above, increased move to ownership/physical media as people realize continued monthly costs are not worth it.
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    • dontsayaword@piefed.social ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      For me it’s all of these plus the ICE recruitment ads.

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      • brucethemoose@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        …People listen to ads with their music?

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      • massive_bereavement@fedia.io ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Do you hate brown people?
        Do you enjoy cosplaying like a weekend warrior?
        Then come down to your local ICE office and get paid by following your two passions!

        I guess.. Haven't heard it.

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      • SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Excuse me, what?

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    • passepartout@feddit.org ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Haven’t watched it either, but it’s a great list. I’d add the embracing of AI slop to it.

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    • voytrekk@sopuli.xyz ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Spotify has also pushed AI music more, as it means they don’t have to pay the artists.

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    • acosmichippo@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      don’t forget Bro Rogan.

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    • PlantJam@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Plus above, increased move to ownership/physical media as people realize continued monthly costs are not worth it.

      For me it’s the opposite. I tend to get really into a pandora station for a few months, then get tired of it and it’s almost permanently played out to me. Even going back to it years later it will feel old. For someone like me, physical media just doesn’t make sense. Paying pandora $5/month to have ad free (and DJ free) music when I’m driving or exercising is worth it to me.

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      • brucethemoose@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Pandora has been and hopefully will always be fabulous.

        Whatever the ‘music DNA’ system they use predates a lot of algorithms and works incredibly well.

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      • Part4@infosec.pub ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Whatever works, but music, or the music the algorithm provides for you, being permanently played out after a few months, does indicate the algorithm is not providing you with music of any depth.

        People used to listen to albums for many years, or longer. I still listen to music I grew up with my parents listening to.

        Like I said that’s cool if it works for you - great, but I think you might be missing out on depth. I would say this is a big check mark against streaming services.

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  • zorflieg@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I didn’t watch this, but i just cancelled Spotify for my own reasons. None of which cost. So I’m just going to assume everyone is on the same page.

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  • recklessengagement@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I hate spotify with a passion. Despite this, there are a few reasons I’m still on it:

    1. Sharing music is trivial (less so now due to link cleaning)
    2. I love exploring new music and the Discover Weekly feature has been quite effective.
    3. Flawless Last.FM compatibility.

    If anyone has alternative(s) they recommend I’d love to try them out.

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    • sandywarhole@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      alternatives? tidal / apple music / deezer

      1 tidal’s share feature links to other music services too (you get the option to pick whatever when you share something so no one gets left out) granted, they use a service to scrape other services to know what’s where and who has what, but still 2 I have both tidal and apple music, and used to have spotify - imo the former two are just better at recommending new stuff close to your preferences as well as adjacents. you also get recommendations for stuff you don’t normally listen to in a separate playlist, so the spread is there. people just haven’t tried to live with them long enough, or just refuse to believe there are other things out there that can be better, or both 3 tidal is, apple music is, and also deezer

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    • ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Discover Weekly feature has been quite effective.

      That used to be me.

      I listen mostly to old swing, jazz, etc. It was fine. How can you mess it up?

      And now I’m getting damn AI slop, pretending to be 1930’s music.

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  • BeerEnjoyer@lemmy.zip ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    why everybody is leaving “the thing”

    look inside

    net profit margin doubles

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  • krooklochurm@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Spotify is the only monthly subscription I have.

    I’m happy with it.

    I mean it’s evil but. You pick your battles I guess.

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  • dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Because Spotify is trash for everyone other than (maybe) its stockholders?

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  • miraclerandy@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    What alternatives are people using? I switched to Amazons service a while back but didn’t like it at all.

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    • BigBenis@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I’ve been happy with Tidal. Their library is extensive, you get better sound quality and it’s cheaper than Spotify. No podcasts or audiobooks but I use different services for those anyway.

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    • mortalic@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      This question deserves better reaponses. If you can’t or don’t want to self host, Tidal and Qobuz are probably the best alternatives. Tidal doesn’t do podcasts though so if you need to replace that as well, take a look at Antenna pod which as a bonus is available on F-Droid.

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    • CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      MP3s and FLAC. The only thing the services offer that’s even remotely useful is finding new music that I might like but… gasp I was doing that before the internet, too.

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      • KindnessIsPunk@lemmy.ca ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I’ve been converting my FLACs to Opus 256 and have been very happy. I use copyparty to host the music on my PC and stream it to my phone when I need to.

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    • scytale@piefed.zip ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      If you mean another streaming service and not just hosting music yourself like others are suggesting, I’ve heard good things about Quboz.

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      • Theprogressivist@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Quboz is awesome and the audio is high quality.

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      • FeatherConstrictor@sh.itjust.works ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Qobuz is what I’ve switched to and the only complaint is the lack of certain niche releases, but I gone through and requested they be added. It seems like the company that aligns most with my ethical values that I could find.

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    • thenewred@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Tidal. It’s okay but the windows desktop app is buggy. Keeps playing a different track than it shows on the UI. Search isn’t great. Android app lacks voice input support.

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      • SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Have they fleshed out their catalog yet? I’ve tried them a couple times and each time it gets a little better, but each time it’s still miles behind spotify or ytmusic.

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    • Dreamchiever@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I set up a Plex server with all my old media, I downloaded my old music collection from my google data (if you ever had your own files stored in Google Play back when it wasn’t just a store but also a media player, it’s still downloadable from Google). I use the plex amp app, it looks like a Spotify skin but works with my personal collection. It’s been pretty great, I run it off an old beat up gaming laptop and 20tb USB drive.

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    • ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      A couple of weeks ago I opened Spotify and SoulSeek on split screen and began the process of looking through my library and downloading all my music. Then once I was done, I went on Bandcamp and bought a few albums from some of my favourite artists that I couldn’t find on SoulSeek.

      It took me a couple of hours over the course of about 3 days, but it was well worth it in the end. I now have everything I had on Spotify saved onto my phone and PC. It feels very liberating, and I can now delete my Spotify account.

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    • HeyJoe@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I have been self hosting since 2008. Went through around 7 different apps since then, and I am currently using Navidrome, which is a fork of Subsonic with the android phone app Symfonium. For a while there self hosting looked pretty bleak around 2020, but it seems to have found a resurgence which I love because the development has been big again leading to more modern looking players and a lot of great new functionality.

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      • skepticalifornia@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Symfonium is awesome! I use Jellyfin for my media server.

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    • voytrekk@sopuli.xyz ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I have gone with a combination of buying/downloading music that I really enjoy and using Qobuz. The quality of music is great, but the selection and discovery just aren’t as good as Spotify.

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  • Gerudo@lemmy.zip ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The ICE ads FINALLY pushed my wife to leave the platform.

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  • kokesh@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Fuck Spotify. I’ve blocked Spotify for anyone connected to our WiFi. Spotify. ChatGPT, Deepseek and other AI shit. And Twitter, Tesla, Spacex and soon also Tiktok. Whtehouse.gov shows .com instead (childish, but brilliant). We have lots of guests all year doing activities and accommodation here. If anyone wants to do this crap, they can do it over their own data.

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    • SpankyDoodle@eviltoast.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I like this line of thinking. I’m upgrading my network soon. This might be an addition.

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      • kokesh@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I have Adguard Home running on old AMD thin client/Ubuntu. Blocks Apple’s DNS, so in theory it should also prevent people from circumventing my stuff with Apple relay.

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    • QueenFern@lemmy.zip ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Love this.

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  • arin@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Now leave YouTube

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  • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s literally the worst app on my phone. Nothing works properly.

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