photopea.com now locks out users blocking ads

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• yessikg@fedia.io ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Krita works well for me

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  • lichtmetzger@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s nice but I need something simple for cropping images in a certain aspect ratio/resolution and then exporting it to webp. I think Krita isn’t the right tool for that.

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    • Regna@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      ImageMagick?

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    • woelkchen@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It’s nice but I need something simple for cropping images in a certain aspect ratio/resolution and then exporting it to webp. I think Krita isn’t the right tool for that.

      If you have trouble cropping and exporting under Krita, maybe using computers isn’t the right thing for you. It’s literally a single mouse click on this icon:

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    • KneeTitts@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      something simple for cropping images in a certain aspect ratio/resolution and then exporting it to webp

      Gimp 3 is awesome, free, etc

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    • pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      gimp, pix.

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• lichtmetzger@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I am totally supporting developers wanting to make money with their product.

  But the developer of Photopea has basically built a product for people who want to get rid of Adobe’s stupid subscription model and now he tries to force them to pay for his own subscription by breaking the application. That really doesn’t sit right with me.

  Why would I need to pay 8€/month for image editing features that run in my browser?

  It also doesn’t help that he went on Github and complained to the developers of uBlock Origin, replying with troll answers like “How can I help you?” but not wanting to accept any other answer than them allowing him to serve ads.

  This guy can get rekt, in my humble opinion. I did like the product before this change, though. Does anyone know of similar image editors out there? (GIMP is terrible)

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  • the_q@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    GIMP isn’t terrible. You’re just used to doing things a certain way and GIMP does it differently.

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    • lichtmetzger@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That’s true, I was working with Photoshop many years and it’s hard to unlearn that.
      Maybe I’ll give it another chance.

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  • TheTechnician27@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I don’t really understand why you’re using ad-supported proprietary software that you’ve never paid a dime for (or given a dime to, since you use uBO), claiming that you don’t use GIMP or Krita instead because the former “is terrible” and the latter isn’t meant for cropping (a trivial, fundamental feature of the software), and then acting entitled to use the Photopea author’s own personal work with zero compensation. So you have free alternatives, refuse to do even the bare minimum to learn how to use them, and then go full “you took my only food; now I’m gonna starve” when Photopea’s author stops you from using their own site for free that they run and maintain at their own expense.

    If anything, you seem ignorant and entitled, and I say that from the perspective of someone who resents digital advertising and proprietary software.

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    • woelkchen@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      then acting entitled to use the Photopea author’s own personal work with zero compensation.

      Running batch tasks on the Photopea author’s own infrastructure because Photopea is a website. Lichtmetzger wrote in a reply that he’s not using Photopea to edit a photo once in a while and now he’s bummed out (I would kinda understand that) but that he’s actually processing a big number of images on someone else’s resources.

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    • lichtmetzger@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      If anything, you seem entitled and willfully ignorant

      I understand why people might think that. As I’ve said in another comment, it’s the attitude of the developer that mildly infuriates me. I am not against paying money for a good product and I would’ve even paid the subscription, if 1. it wasn’t so high (96€/year for a tool processing images in your own browser) and 2. he wasn’t such a dick on Github to people.

      I know developers need to put food on the table, but then they should at least be honest about that. Going into the uBlock Github and trolling people there while claiming you “always supported ad blockers” isn’t the right way and I am not financially supporting developers who act like this.

      Also, some people don’t seem to grasp that I’m not actually processing images for free on the developers’ infrastructure. The image processing is done via Javascript on my own machine. So all I’m doing is loading the website initially, it’s not like I’m taking money out of the devs’ pocket by blocking his ads. Added to that, the site worked fine for many years, why do you need to put an aggressive Adblock detection in now? It’s a cat and mouse game against uBlock and he must now he will never win this game.

      Of course, it’s his own tool and he can do whatever he wants with it, but it’s still shitty to do it.

      After all, you’re right, I’ve decided to give tools like GIMP another chance. The problem for me is that I used Photoshop for many years (that’s what I learned when I was attending art school, blame the system) and moving away to another tool like GIMP is a lot of work, because it works very differently. I learned there are plugins for easing the transition and I’ll find another tool.

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  • hedgehog@ttrpg.network ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’m confused what your issue is with the dev. He seems to have posted because uBO was breaking the site for premium users and then got told “just stop monetizing effectively.” Only one reply (don’t use such an obnoxious way to insert the ad sidebar) was actually helpful, though it was at odds with part of his monetization strategy (pay for Premium to get that extra space).

    If uBO devs had said “Sure, give this account premium access and we’ll check it out” and he’d refused, that would be different, but instead they said there was nothing he could do to help them and banned him from participating.

    It also doesn’t seem that he’s intentionally breaking the app when uBO is in use. Rather, uBO breaks the app when ads aren’t being served and he is now detecting when this happens and serving a message about the fact.

    Does anyone know of similar image editors out there that can batch-crop images in a certain aspect ratio/resolution and then export them to webp?

    Not similar, but Image Magick can crop images from the cli and has webp support.

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    • VerPoilu@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      He’s making it purposely hard to block the ads. The side effect of that is that it’s hard to block the ad without breaking the website itself.

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    • chloroken@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It also doesn’t seem that he’s intentionally breaking the app when uBO is in use. Rather, uBO breaks the app when ads aren’t being served and he is now detecting when this happens and serving a message about the fact.

      I have a bridge to sell you.

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  • BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    He’s not forcing you into a subscription model, he wants you to either allow ads or go to a subscription model.

    You don’t need to pay 8 Euro a month, you just need to allow the ads.

    It’s not broken to prevent ad blockers, we all got used to a system that wasn’t sustainable, and now we’re seeing what is actually required for sites and apps to survive.

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    • VerPoilu@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I wouldn’t mind paying a few cents, but 8€ is way more than what he could possibly get out of the ads.

      I wish a system like Flattr or even BAT could take off. Paying a few dollars a month to not get ads anywhere in a sustainable way seems like the way to go.

      (Note: I seem to remember shady stuff about the BAT token but I do not know the details. Don’t incendiate me on that).

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  • KneeTitts@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    GIMP is terrible, sorry

    Its actually not, but if you really hate the interface then try photogimp

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    • Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Believe me, the interface isn’t the problem with GIMP, and there are definitely problems.

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• Sergio@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I think you’re taking heat a little bit unfairly. This is, after all, the MILDLY infuriating community, and it can be a hassle when something stops working for you, even if it’s perfectly reasonable for it to happen.

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  • lichtmetzger@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I think you’re taking heat a little bit unfairly.

    Most of it seems to come from one user who seems to hate me in particular. :D But it’s fun to start a controversial topic once in a while. At least I’m not getting banned for having a different opinion (which would’ve definitely happened on Reddit).

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• fodor@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The garbage took itself out. I love how that works.

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• KneeTitts@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Gimp 3 is awesome now, and 100% + no ads. Just sayin

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  • beneeney@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I love GIMP but it got really laggy for me with version 3 and I haven’t been able to figure out why. :(

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• Hayduke@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  What I am hearing is that you don’t feel like my man should receive any monetary support for a slick and convenient web application he invested a ton of time into. Not something I would gripe about online, but you do you.

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  • NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Nobody wants random crap, trackers, spyware, and other garbage.

    If photpea wanted to curate their ads, it might be different. Maybe they could even have an artists gallery or subscription to advertise for their heavy users.

    But nobody in their right mind is going to stop blocking the major ad domians. Because that would just be stupid.

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  • lichtmetzger@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I am not paying another high subscription (yes, 96€/year is high for some people) for a tool that processes images locally, no.

    That attitude has worked out fine in my life so far.

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    • woelkchen@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I am not paying another high subscription (yes, 96€/year is high for some people) for a tool that processes images locally, no.

      Then self-host a tool you need for your commercial-grade tasks.

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• Klear@quokk.au ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  What do you mean “now”? Photopea has always been very aggresive towards adblocks.

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• x00z@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  “Something is breaking Photopea” ??? Yeah it’s yourselves.

  Not sure if this is lie is allowed under the EU DSA law.

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• BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I’ve always ignored Photopea because it’s completely proprietary and the pricing is predatory. I don’t approve of those models, the same reason I won’t touch Adobe.

  I wish Affinity would just release linux versions, but I expect those to get worse now that they are owned by Serif.

  I think your best bet is to buckle down, swallow your pride, and learn Gimp. Yeah, it’s a dumpster fire if you come from a Photoshop background because it isn’t trying to copy Photoshop, it wants to be its own thing. But even though it seems counterintuitive due to your years of existing programming, it is quite powerful.

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  • brax@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Krita in Linux has been amazing. I’ve never used Affinity, and I’m far from a pro… But I can do most of what I used to do in Photoshop in Krita fairly naturally. It’s way easier to transition to than GIMP ever was.

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  • EddoWagt@feddit.nl ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Even without years of experience, gimp is unintuitive, the affinity suite is so much easier to use

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• shalafi@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Works fine for me, Firefox and Ublock Origin. I think there’s something on your machine causing this.

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  • Soapbox@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Same. I just checked and it’s working fine for me on Zen browser with adnauseum. No ads present, and no popups about ad blockers either.

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• cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  are you sure it’s not a specific ublock filter or something? i accessed it in librewolf with the default ublock origin settings and it looked fine.

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• SaltySalamander@fedia.io ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  So many douchebags in this thread.

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• PP_BOY_@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The comma in “please, turn them off” is infuratiating in ways I cant even articulate

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  • TeamAssimilation@infosec.pub ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The infuriating part for me is “some this is breaking Photopeia”, an euphemism for “we break Photopeia if you block ads”.

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  • TheTechnician27@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s 100% grammatically correct, for what it’s worth. If it helps, swap the two comma-separated components: “Turn them off, please.”

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    • MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I think it’s the condescending insinuation

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  • woelkchen@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    cant

    …

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• FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Never heard of it.

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• maximumbird@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Guess I won’t be using photopea anymore

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• zstg@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Wait Photopea’s nonfree software?!

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  • somerandomperson@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    nonfree as in with ads and not freedom

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• SaltySalamander@fedia.io ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Brave + ublock origin + pihole. No issues whatsoever loading/using photopea.

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• scytale@piefed.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Oh damn, I just used it a couple of days ago. I’ll check later this week if I am still able to use it with uBO.

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• RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I never even understood why he made it purely a web app.

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• RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I fucking hate this app/site/whatever. It’s powerful, and has lots of features. But every single time I use it, the way it works is just off enough from Photoshop that I need to Google it, and I’m always pissed at the stupid reason. I hate Photopea.

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• PixelatedSaturn@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Works in brave normally.

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