Tipping in general is a concept that should just die. Same actually as bonuses. I work at a rather large company where sales closing a deal will get them a bonus. In my job I don’t directly deal with customers, so I can never get a bonus. U don’t work less hard than sales. I would actually say my job is more stressful. They should just pay people what they’re worth.
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thericofactor@sh.itjust.works 20 hours ago
skisnow@lemmy.ca 15 hours ago
I once worked in a European office of a big US company a while back where I negotiated a fair salary, they agreed, and then on the first day the contract arrived and fully 25% of it was a “bonus target” that I was assured everyone always got every time so I shouldn’t worry about it.
Inevitably, it was the first thing to go as soon as a new CEO came in with the task of improving Earnings Per Share, giving me an instant 25% pay cut. What’s shittier is they announced it after the period it applied to, so it was a retroactive 25% pay cut as well. Luckily I wanted to leave anyway for other reasons, so I took them to a tribunal and got paid, cause you can’t pull that sort of shit in Europe. My US colleagues didn’t fare so well.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 9 hours ago
I once worked for a company that had a weird policy that your commissions couldn’t be more than 75% of your pay. At the end of the year, if your commissions were more than 75%, they would raise your base pay to reflect the proper ratio.
For most people, it didn’t matter, because commissions were so low. But I’m a commission whore, so I was constantly scheming to increase my commissions. First I went to every one of my region’s clients, and figured out who wasn’t buying products from my division, and got them to start.
Then I started going around to large regional companies who weren’t customers, and got them to start buying my products. Since I had gone to the trouble of becoming a vendor, they would start buying from our other divisions,too (unfortunately, I didn’t get commission on the other divisions’ sales). A couple of those new clients grew huge, and one of them became a national chain.
My commissions got so high, that my base rate was getting adjusted every year, until I was making double over the other sale managers in my division. That means I should have been in line for a major promotion, right?
Nope, some accountant noticed that I was making more than anyone else on my job, so I got laid off.
poweruser@lemmy.sdf.org 14 hours ago
A very similar thing happened to me a while back. Mine was “only” a 10% pay cut but it was extremely demotivating.
Of course, since I was in the US I had no such thing as a tribunal
Valmond@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
Bonuses are also used to not have to give a raise.
The_v@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
I always tell people that a bonus is imaginary and should never be considered as part of a job offer.
If you do acheive a partial amount one year the next year the “calculations” to get one will change to fuck you over.
MissJinx@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
oh please can we stop them after I get this year bonus? I work at a large company and everyone gets a little bonus. I really need my pitty bonus this year! please Im not a ceo, just a regular poor person
MBech@feddit.dk 16 hours ago
Don’t see it as sales getting more than they’re worth, see it as them getting less than they’re worth the rest of the year. If you still think that’s too much, fight for your wage and fight together.
The workers only cribble themselves if they fight eachother. We should all strive to get our rightful piece of the cake.
Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
Say it with your vote and with your political involvement. Fucking over employees who depend on tips when you’re able to tip is shitty. They already don’t get paid enough, they don’t need your reminders.
Unlearned9545@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
When I moved from the US to NZ I got way superior service then I’d ever had in the US and attempted tipping a “por boir” but they refused it and said if I really felt like giving extra they had a charity I could give to.
Unfortunately I have started seeing tips being asked for by POS in Sydney and Auckland and it made me mad and sad.
TurtleTourParty@midwest.social 15 hours ago
I went to a restaurant in Arrowtown yesterday and the POS asked for a tip. I’ve seen it a couple other places too but usually the worker hits no before giving it to me.
guyoverthere123@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 hours ago
If anything, give the money to the housekeeper directly.
0ndead@infosec.pub 21 hours ago
Tip the maids, dick
poopkins@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
As a European, I had no idea this was something I needed to do. Man, I have so many questions.
How much? Is it a fixed amount per night or a gesture amount for the whole stay? Do I only put money in the envelope when I’m leaving or do I get a new envelope every day? Is it always the same housekeeper? Do they pool the money and divide it among themselves? If there’s anything the matter with the housekeeping, do I dock it from their tip? Are there envelopes for the bus driver, too?
osaerisxero@kbin.melroy.org 20 hours ago
So, this varies wildly, but my understanding was that, barring some sort of shenanigan, it's generally only 'needed'/expected to tip housekeeping when you make a mess outside of normal usage of the space (like a 'oops, I'm sorry I left trash everywhere, I was in a huge rush and didn't have time to tidy up before I checked out' sort of thing, like a slob tax).
For bus drivers, our street gets together and gets them a gift basket/gift card at the holidays.
phdepressed@sh.itjust.works 20 hours ago
Whole stay, when you’re leaving. What the housekeepers do is up to them. It isnt like restaurant tips, the expectation isn’t as engrained. Maybe 5-10 per time your room is serviced maybe more if you’ve left a real shitshow for some reason.
No on the bus driver. A hotel shuttle you can give a couple to if they help with the bags but generally not.
RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 10 hours ago
I thought people typically researched this before going on a trip tbh
BussyGyatt@feddit.org 18 hours ago
give that attitude to the employer, dick
scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 19 hours ago
Leave a tip and also some documentation on how to start a union
JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 11 hours ago
You want a tip, here’s your tip: seize the means of production.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 9 hours ago
Best comment in the thread. I’m going to start doing this with EVERY tip I leave.
darkdemize@sh.itjust.works 21 hours ago
I can understand not leaving a tip if you don’t have the housekeepers clean during your stay. But if you have them service your room daily during your stay, you should tip them.
eager_eagle@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
cleaning is included in the price, fuck tipping. That’s some real audacity from management right there to leave a passive aggressive note about tipping their staff for doing their job.
Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 18 hours ago
See now, as a US person who expects to tip housekeeping (and I tip them generously because I know they’re exploited and also our family has extra needs) and who also knows about shitty customers, I mostly read the note as “Don’t leave money lying randomly around and then come screaming that the maids have stolen it and you want your room comped. Use the envelope for tips.”
manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml 19 hours ago
The company I rented a servant from is now asking I compensate the servant, outrageous!
I dunno, babe, maybe you ought to stay home if youre going to be an arse. If you go to a place where tipping is a thing, not doing so is just selfish and childish.
This isnt an argument in favour of tipping, but you’re not going to solve tipping through personal responsibility 🙄
x00z@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
Tip them for doing their work? You’re crazy.
Maybe I’ll pay them a bit extra if they cleaned my cum off the curtains.
RodgeGrabTheCat@sh.itjust.works 10 minutes ago
Would have been more impactful if you wrote all that on the card and left it with the manager.