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• LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Imagine thinking there is no corruption up there

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  • Iceblade02@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    People being fine with higher taxes is a function of a trustworthy system where tax money actually goes to spending that benefits the tax payer.

    If the expectation is that the funds get misplaced/pocketed/diverted along the way your average citizen will be far more willing (and view it as far more morally justifiable) to make efforts to avoid/reduce paying taxes.

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    • TheNamlessGuy@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I feel you’re heavily underestimating the dreaded combo of public perception and complacency.

      From what I’ve seen, there have been plenty of attempts for the traditionally corrupt governments to better themselves, but the populous blocking it by going “yeah, right”. Same thing with high trust goverments becoming more corrupt and people excusing it with “we have the good government!”

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• tired_n_bored@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I live in high taxes high corruption part of it

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  • oneser@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Max-stats 😎

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• ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  At least places with taxes have:

  • a functioning health care system,
  • actual mental health system, not just suggestions from politicians to “go to a church instead”;
  • job options for the disabled that aren’t either a brutally underpaid communal work program, or taken out from some frat boy politician’s favorite rtrd joke, who also think people in wheelchair are just “too dumb to even stand up”, and autistic people are “just intellectual rtrds, whose moms slept with their teachers to not get transferred to special ed”.

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  • mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    And why is that? Whats the difference between those places that manifests itself in such a way…

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• 9point6@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  The corruption is a lovely place to holiday in though

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  • jim3692@discuss.online ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Until you realize your life is in fucking danger there. Nearly every summer, in Greece, we are dealing with wildfires.

    Last year, there was a fire in Rhodes during September. People were jumping in the sea to same their life. The response of the government was to provide vouchers to tourists from foreign countries, so that they will visit again next year.

    The government gave no shit to Greek people, and I don’t really think people from other countries dared to come again.

    Besides the issues with emergency services, there are also pricing problems. I only know about Greece and Turkey. In tourist areas of those countries, all prices are inexcusably high.

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    • VitabytesDev@feddit.nl ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      This year a wildfire started in the center of fucking Athens.

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• AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Or go to Britain and get both

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  • UxyIVrljPeRl@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Same for Germany ¯\(ツ)/¯

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    • Witziger_Waschbaer@feddit.org ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Come to Cologne, where people are proud of the corruption and nepotism, affectionately called “Klüngel”, that directly turns their tax money into profit for some clever Jeck. For example via an opera house that was supposed to cost 250 million and is currently projected to cost about 1,5 billion.

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• Routhinator@startrek.website ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Taxes. Because I have a brain and understand how a civil, functioning society, works.

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• Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Why not both?

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• TabbsTheBat@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  My country has made it! We’re now taxes and not corruption! 🎉

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• sunglocto@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  This site is genuinely moronic

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• gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I’m actually wondering how much of this has to do with the climate, i.e. the physical weather patterns. something like: living in northern countries historically meant that you had a tougher time getting through the winter, because the winters are harsher and longer, so you need to store more food and make sure it doesn’t spoil, which requires extra planning. so as a historical consequence, northern countries end up with a higher degree of organization, including bigger states, more organized tax systems, overall bigger and more organized structures.

  You can see many examples of this. all big empires historically have had their center on the northern hemisphere, including england, US, europe, USSR, china. there’s (almost) none on the south.

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• hansolo@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Flatten that circle into Russia and you basically have the line between Butter Europe and Olive Oil Europe.

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• Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Man this Texas is big jokes are getting out of hand

  Reads meme again

  Oh right…

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• Ghyste@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Shitpost ≠ shitty post

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• unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Politicians in Germany are corrupt as fuck tho.

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  • autriyo@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    It’s called lobbyism here, so it’s okay.

    /s

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• Mk23simp@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Thanks to American Exceptionalism we have both.

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  • HK65@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    So do you have the president of the central bank steal a third of your yearly GDP while you get taxed 45% on your income, 32% on everything you buy, and also on random bullshit?

    Amateurs.

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• edupo@europe.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Redditor trying new grounds…

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  • bigFab@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    As a matter of fact I used Reddit only to find Lemmy and that took less than two weeks. Never came back.

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• FelixCress@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Moronic post.

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• TheBronko@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I’d say Germany dies not have high taxes IF YOU ARE RICH. Also Germany has lots oft corruption, in my opinion, most oft it is not seen by many people.

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• 0x0@lemmy.zip ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  That’s cute.
  Now add Gibraltar to the map.

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• Evil_Shrubbery@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  UK is in which tub zone … ?

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  • Sconrad122@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Yes

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• lornosaj@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Slovakia has both taxes and corruption. Yay.

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• captainlezbian@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Taxes for certain

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  • bananabread@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    For certain people, yes

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• realitista@lemmus.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  This is extremely accurate based on my 25 years of working in CEE.

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• RedPandaRaider@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Not accurate enough. France falls into the corruption category.

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  • HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    It falls into both actually: the best of both worlds!

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• MacNCheezus@lemmy.today ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Ah, a distinction without a difference

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