Subnautica's Original Creators Have Been Removed From Unknown Worlds "Effective Immediately", As Krafton Makes Concerning Leadership Changes

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• mysticpickle@lemmy.ca ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Hmmm publisher gutting original creative team from a highly anticipated sequel. This always ends well.

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  • LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Yup, sounds like I need to wait for quite a few patches and some real reviews before I buy Kerbal Space Program 2 Subnautica 2

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  • masterspace@lemmy.ca ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    To be fair, they didn’t gut the original creative team.

    Max McGuire was CTO and a programmer on the original game, Ted Gill was President and a Producer on Below Zero.

    Charlie Cleveland was the director and lead designer of the original game, so was the head of the creative team, and that does seem like a big loss, but no one else from the art, writing, or design teams seem to be leaving, so it’s not really a ‘gutting’ of the original creative team.

    My guess (especially given how buggy Subnautica was), that they were hitting their delivery milestones so the publisher wanted to replace the organization heads and move the founders back down to creative roles but they refused and left.

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  • BurgerBaron@piefed.social ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I can't think of a time it has gone well.

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• Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Great. An upper management restructuring. Capitalism does it’s thing again. Subnautica 2 will be a shitty cash grab.

  At least we had the first one.

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  • maxwells_daemon@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    They had already hinted they wanted to make Subnautica 2 into a multiplayer co-op, and they specifically mentioned “games as a service”.

    After backlash, they specified the multiplayer would be optional, and “games as a service” means long term updates, not microtransactions, which sounds suspiciously like a rollback to me…

    I was already kind of expecting that, seeing as below zero’s map wasn’t half as interesting as the first game, the storytelling was mid, and the mechanics were all over the place, like they just wanted to make another hit by shooting in every direction, with half the work put into it.

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    • apprehensively_human@lemmy.ca ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      When Below Zero came out it was clear that they had no idea what made Subnautica special, which was something that a sequel had no hope of replicating.

      Fear of the unknown and the drive to explore deeper. Once you’ve completed Subnautica you are a god of the sea, and that knowledge and experience cannot be lost.

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• cecilkorik@lemmy.ca ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Oh good now maybe the Subnautica developers can go independent to make a spiritual successor that isn’t called Subnautica and isn’t garbage.

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  • alaphic@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Underaquaia? Seaunderia? Drownica? Or, my personal favorite: “fuck ugly giant cthulu adjacent heart attack inducer 2”

    I can only imagine the new PTB are already working feverishly to add mandatory for story progression, 30+ hour combined Seatruck and Snowfox segments, a minigun which mounts to the seaglide, and mats necessary for key endgame craftables which are conveniently available exclusively through loot boxes you can earn by sending individual dev team members your nudes or earn 15 a week absolutely free with your monthly Deep Dive Club subscription

    Also, from orbit the planet looks completely covered by ocean, but once you land it’s like calf high at its highest… but there are still leviathans, for some reason. Because fuck you, that’s why.

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    • Colonel_Panic_@eviltoast.org ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Find The Titanium 2

      Jumpscare Simulator

      Thalassophobia Generator

      Welcome Aboard Captain. All Systems Online. 2 Underwater Boogaloo.

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  • nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Just hope it isn’t The Neptune Protocol.

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• Katana314@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Does this mean in 6 years we’ll get “BelowTheWatermica Dos” by a new studio, and it will be a far better spiritual sequel?

  It’s happened only a few times when a publisher cans the developers.

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• MisterNeon@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  In their place, Striking Distance Studios CEO Steve Papoutsis (who has a major role in the development of The Callisto Protocol) has been appointed as Unknown Worlds CEO.

  I can smell the mediocrity from here.

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  • atticus88th@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Stevesie: “Ok guys… see how they made Dead Space? I want that but take out 2/3 of the content and features… and I want it rushed to production with as many bugs as possible on release!”

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• Hazmatastic@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Ffs one of the few games I was actively but patiently excited for, pretty much down the drain. I can only hope they make their own studio with blackjack and hookers

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• frenchfryenjoyer@lemmings.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  aw man i was HYPED for subnautica 2. loved the first game and below zero but now I’m worried

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• captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Welp. That’s that for that.

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• devolution@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Not enough micro transactions or live service elements.

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  • Colonel_Panic_@eviltoast.org ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Beep beep. Oxygen! O2 Packs Available: $1 - 15 seconds of oxygen $5 - 30 seconds of oxygen $10 - 2 minutes + small O2 tank. $40 - 5 minutes + large O2 tank.

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    • devolution@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Didn’t know EA bought them.

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• Pika@sh.itjust.works ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I mean I wasn’t planning on getting sub 2 after the shitshow that was below zero, the studio is clear they didn’t understand what caused the magic in the first game, and failed at delivery in the second one.

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• DaddleDew@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Unknown Worlds was already dead anyway.

  The team had already lost any chance of recreating the greatness of the first game when their sound designer made unbelievably stupid comments on social media, leaving the company no choice but to fire him.

  This is very sad because I loved their stuff ever since the Natural Selection Half-life mod.

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  • masterspace@lemmy.ca ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    ##Subnautica credits:

    Director(s)

    Charlie Cleveland
    

    Producer(s)

    Hugh Jeremy
    

    Designer(s)

    Charlie Cleveland
    

    Programmer(s)

    Charlie Cleveland
    Steven An
    Max McGuire
    Jonas Bötel
    

    Artist(s)

    Cory Strader
    Brian Cummings
    Scott MacDonald
    

    Writer(s)

    Tom Jubert
    

    Composer(s)

    Simon Chylinski
    

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    ##Subnautica Below Zero credits:

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    Director(s)

    David Kalina
    

    Producer(s)

    Charlie Cleveland
    Cory Strader
    Max McGuire
    Ted Gill
    

    Designer(s)

    Alex Ries
    

    Artist(s)

    Cory Strader
    

    Writer(s)

    Jill Murray
    Brittney Morris
    Zaire Lanier
    Tom Jubert
    

    Composer(s)

    Ben Prunty
    

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    • JTskulk@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      wtf I didn’t know Jubert and Prunty were on this joint!

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• Asafum@feddit.nl ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Ah yes the song of our times: concerning leadership changes.

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• Hadriscus@jlai.lu ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I’ll wait for more info,… but from now on I’m approaching SN2 with extreme caution

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• ceenote@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Below Zero wasn’t exactly great, though.

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• Kyrgizion@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Not gamedev but other software, going through the exact same thing (new, external CEO). Guess the axeman cometh for us all eventually.

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• utjebe@reddthat.com ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Maybe it isn’t such a bad news. To get ppl hooked on any paid services, they need a good product first.

  They can get lost with anything like Kerbal 2. That is if they relese something in pre-alpha state and ask $40 for it.

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