Banksy Encourages Fans to Shoplift From Guess Since Company 'Helped Themselves to My Artwork Without Asking’

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• athos77@kbin.social ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Nov 18, 2022

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  • nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Thanks. I was wondering if this was old news or had happened again.

    There must be top-post bots working through old Reddit posts.

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  • ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This community needs quality control.

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• jlow@beehaw.org ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Nice, stealing from multinational conglomerates is never morally wrong and should always be encouraged.

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  • CaptFeather@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    But think of the shareholder!

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  • whoisearth@lemmy.ca ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You. I like you.

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• super_mario_69@hexbear.net ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Remember! If you see someone shoplifting, you didn’t.

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  • GoebbelsDeezNuts@hexbear.net ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Shoplifting from corporations is cool and good. An opinion.

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  • smeg@feddit.uk ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    If it’s someone stealing food and basics then yeah, but if it’s bored kids stealing fashion then they can fuck off. Don’t use the excuse of “sticking it to the man” to justify bring a bellend.

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    • AOCapitulator@hexbear.net ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      What, some kids stealing those clothes, of which half that aren’t sold will be shipped directly to a landfill?

      Yeah, we gotta step up our game protecting that shit

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    • SlyBlue@hexbear.net ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You’d call cops on children lol

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    • Sethayy@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      What so worst case scenario Walmart family is 0.0001% less rich?

      Literally harming no one, get off your high horse if you got enough money to afford shit (yes even cosmetics some people value)

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  • Digestive_Biscuit@feddit.uk ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Does he have an agent or somebody who can be contacted? Not justifying the shop from doing this but how would somebody seek his permission?

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    • usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Who Banksy? because he has clearly given his permission in the form of a press release

      So Banksy has gven his moral ascent to anyone stealing from that shop although obviously Banksy doesn’t have the legal right to do that and you will still get in trouble if the police catch you but the police in the UK don’t investigate shoplifting less than £200. Although they recently have been told to crack down on all shoplifting so that might change.

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• h3doublehockeysticks@hexbear.net ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Now that’s just silly. You should be stealing from any store that has a “collection” regardless of whether they used his art.

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  • Blake@feddit.uk ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Fastest conversion from downvote to upvote record holder

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• Alaskaball@hexbear.net ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Don’t need encouragement, but the thoughts appreciated.

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• Cylusthevirus@kbin.social ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Doesn't Banksy's entire schtick hang on "helping himself" to a "canvas?"

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  • acastcandream@beehaw.org ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    There’s a legitimate discussion to be had about whether not he should be doing that, but to compare it to a multinational corporation selling clothes using his work without his permission is pretty disingenuous.

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    • Cylusthevirus@kbin.social ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      From zero to bad faith in one comment, bravo c/unitedkingdom.

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    • Nobsi@feddit.de ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      My brother in christ the art sells for millions…

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  • adrian783@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    actually, no. we know who he is, and he collaborates with local authorities to put up his art. and retains all rights to it of course.

    so he is actually very justified in feeling this way because he unironically greatly benefits from the commercial side of things.

    of course, he still wants us to think this is some counterculture shit.

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    • Squizzy@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I don’t know that this is strictly true, he has had works painted over before and notably had a rivalry with that Manchester King fella and they re did each others works regularly.

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  • mannycalavera@feddit.uk ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yeah but different rules for him, right?

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    • CubbyTustard@reddthat.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

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• Werbert@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

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• RobotToaster@infosec.pub ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Will he pay their legal fees if someone gets arrested?

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• schwim@reddthat.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  His celebrity status depends on hyperbolic rhetoric like this. If he had handled it the way normal people do, through courts, he’d be damaging his mystique. The sheep that think he’s the bee’s knees slurp this bullshit up.

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  • sexy_peach@feddit.de ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    So? Is he wrong?

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    • Vant@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Also, in his book Wall and Piece, Banksy said “copyright is for losers” and the public was morally and legally free to reproduce and use any public copyright works.

      I mean, according to his own words, I guess?

      smh.com.au/…/copyright-is-for-losers-how-did-bank…

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    • schwim@reddthat.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I can’t say legally since I’m not a lawyer but I don’t think much of people who suggest you do (crime) because (crime) occurred. I consider it a low-end mentality to view that as a resolution or justice of some kind.

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    • Pratai@lemmy.ca ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yes.

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  • space_comrade@hexbear.net ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Banksy is a complete fucking poser, true, but also shoplifting is good.

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  • Squizzy@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Let people enjoy things

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  • Teppic@kbin.social ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    If he had handled it the way normal people do, through courts

    There is more to it than that. He's been blocked from claiming the copyright on his own work since he'd need to dox himself. He can't claim the copyright as 'Banksy' since it's not his real name.

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  • Lazylazycat@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It’s a joke.

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• CloutAtlas@hexbear.net ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I definitely wouldn’t get a Flipper Zero for the purposes of theft. Allegedly it is a legal device that can be re-programmed to disable security tags and open charging ports on Tesla vehicles, which is wrong.

  Definitely do not purchase a Flipper Zero and utilize it for theft or disruption. Its purposes are to open garage doors.

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  • Aagje_D_Vogel@feddit.nl ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You don’t need to reprogram the Flipper Zero for Tesla charging ports. Just get the Sub-Ghz signal from the internet and store it on the Flipper.

    I definitely never done it myself, of course.

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• Rakust@kbin.social ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  oh nooo. Poor bansky. This has ruined my day. Kids are crying now.

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  • Blake@feddit.uk ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This comment is peak comedy why are you guys downvoting this

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    • acastcandream@beehaw.org ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Well, it took 2 months, but at last “why all the downvotes?” / “downvoted for the truth smh” / etc. has reared its head in my feed again. Hooray.

      Let’s place bets on the next Reddit line to jump over here and appear in every single thread. “Updoots to the left!” maybe?

      Sarcasm aside, it’s magic Internet points. They’re worth less than here than they even were on Reddit.

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• plinky@hexbear.net ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Also visit other stores as well 🫡

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• obinice@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I’m from the UK and I have no idea who Guess even are, so they can’t be that big of a deal. I won’t support them anyway… if I ever see them haha.

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  • andthenthreemore@startrek.website ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    A quick search and it looks like the Mike Ashley owned House of Fraser sells them. So double win.

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    • Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Who owned what?

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• MrBusinessMan@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  This is horrifying. There’s no good reason to ever steal from a store, period.

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  • Venus@hexbear.net ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Actually, stealing from a corporation is always good under all circumstances. Everything they have is obtained by theft.

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    • MrBusinessMan@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That’s wrong, stealing from a business is never ok. Businesses are what give people jobs and money, and you think it’s ok to just go around taking even more from them? After everything they have done for you? The owner of this ship can probably barely afford to make ends meet. When you steal a Banksy shirt you’re basically stealing food from that business man’s many children.

      Everything they have is from theft? Wrong, they buy that stuff from other countries like Bangladesh (where they are also creating jobs by the way).

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  • TheGamingLuddite@hexbear.net ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Important to understand that every instance of mugging, shoplifting etc combined is less than half of what’s stolen by employers via wage theft. In addition, wage theft is virtually never punished with prison time, unlike shoplifting or larceny.

    Shirts are not people, not animals, not priceless relics, just commodities. Direct your ‘horror’ at an actual evil that affects your fellow humans rather than a minor loss of revenue from stolen property.

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    • MrBusinessMan@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You’re definitely confused. The number one type of theft is people stealing from shops and businesses. It happens all the time! Sometimes people come in a big group and run through the whole store stealing stuff just for the fun of it. You see it every day on the news.

      Wage theft? I’ve never even heard of that on the news at all, it’s not happening every day like shop theft. But it is a problem. I have employees that I pay 8 hours of wages to and sometimes when I look at the security cams I see that they actually spent several hours sitting around chatting to each other instead of working so yes, it happens. But people stealing from the shop is still the worst kind of theft possible.

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  • Awoo@hexbear.net ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    horrifying

    HAHAHAHAHAHA fuck off mate

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  • temptest@hexbear.net ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    These damn commies have no respect for hard work.

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    • 7bicycles@hexbear.net ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      stealings a tough job m8

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  • AOCapitulator@hexbear.net ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Horrifying? Really?

    You live such a disgustingly sheltered life that someone stealing fancy clothing is horrifying??

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    • MrBusinessMan@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Stealing anything from a store is the worst thing anybody can do

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  • Five@slrpnk.net ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

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    • MrBusinessMan@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Stars is a banger tbh

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  • SirQuackTheDuck@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Except when that store is a big multinational that pays their employees the bare minimum for stuff that costs pennies to make but is sold for half their monthly income.

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    • MrBusinessMan@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That’s even worse because that store employs so many people, when you steal from that store it’s hurting all of those employees

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• Swim@lemmy.ca ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  This is like being in a time capsule from 2022

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  • prole@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    A time capsule from one year ago? Mate, if you’re gonna use the time capsule meme, you gotta go further back then one year.

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    • Swim@lemmy.ca ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s to signify this is old news m8. The article was from part year… Why are you so slow ?

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• temptest@hexbear.net ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Banksy believing in intellectual property 🏴‍☠️

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  • spiderplant@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Is it not copyright infringement?

    Also I don’t believe in either but will happily use both to fuck over rich corpo pigs from commercialising my work without permission or compensation.

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    • AOCapitulator@hexbear.net ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Copyright infringement is the jaywalking of ideas

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    • NotYourSocialWorker@feddit.nu ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      No since Banksy doesn’t have any copyrights. Being anonymous has it downysides…

      techdirt.com/…/banksys-weakass-attempt-to-abuse-t…

      So as far as I know he has neither copyright nor trademark to use. Not a fan of big companies either but Banksy is far away from impoverished.

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  • 7bicycles@hexbear.net ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Did he ever say anything else about it? You can get banksy prints and other stuff featuring his artwork everywhere and they never seemed much bothered about it, maybe he just dislikes Guess

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    • temptest@hexbear.net ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I don’t know, I was just making a joke

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• Awoo@hexbear.net ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Based

  youtu.be/wqUJ0go5Pww

  youtu.be/oNBOCejGiTU

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• AngrilyEatingMuffins@kbin.social ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Wild how the Nazis out themselves over fucking BANKSY

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  • acastcandream@beehaw.org ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    So if you don’t agree with a multinational clothing brand using someone’s art for profit without their permission you’re a nazi now?

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    • AngrilyEatingMuffins@kbin.social ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      No but super disingenuous questions asked in that tone in defense of capitalist nonsense sure are a red flag.

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• Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Why is there a shoplifting community on here 😂

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  • temptest@hexbear.net ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Because there are shops out there.

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• The_Walkening@hexbear.net ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Very cooling looking forward to getting a ripped-off version of artwork with messages like “DAE Putin Gay?” And “It’s a commentary on the police, innit?”

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• Pratai@lemmy.ca ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  His next piece should be called “Two Wrongs….”

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• mannycalavera@feddit.uk ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  What a fucking idiot. He / she could have sued them if he felt aggrieved instead of encouraging people to commit crimes.

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• sculd@beehaw.org ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The people that will be affected most are the front line staff who is already working on minimum wages…not the multinational corp

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