Who fucking cares. Why is this even being posted? Move on.
Bella Ramsey Says ‘It’s Important’ to Keep Gendered Awards for Best Actor and Actress: ‘Recognition for Women in the Industry’ Must Be ‘Preserved’
Submitted 1 day ago by Skavau@lemm.ee to Television@lemm.ee
https://variety.com/2025/tv/news/bella-ramsey-defends-gendered-awards-categories-1236388420/
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DrDickHandler@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
qarbone@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
Do you…not know what community you’re in?
golden_zealot@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
The real move here is probably to allow the Nominee to select the category that they think best suits them.
Ulrich@feddit.org 1 day ago
non-binary wouldn’t fit in either existing category.
FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 hours ago
While I agree in theory the problem in practice due to industry bias is basically only men will win
Chip_Rat@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
Yeah I’d have to say I’m in the “we need to keep the categories” camp but I admit I don’t know how we would properly acknowledge bi or non-gendered or anyone between or betwixt.
And we should have a way because there is no reason someone like Bella (love them btw) won’t give an award winning performance as a bi-sexual or something and then wtf do we do.
I don’t know the answer.
Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz 22 hours ago
“Women don’t exist and don’t need recognition”
golden_zealot@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
That’s true as well. They could also create more categories I suppose.
kandoh@reddthat.com 20 hours ago
No idea about the context of this, and I refuse to read the article. The title strikes me as implying women wouldn’t be able to win awards if the categories were unisex, which I don’t agree with.
Uruanna@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
The problem isn’t that women aren’t able to win, the problem is that the people in charge will just stop nominating women, let alone name them the winner. All of these people, in every field, everywhere, at the top, who do not have women among them, they do not care. There is money in not caring. They were not raised to care, and they raise no one to care. You have to force them.
kandoh@reddthat.com 7 hours ago
I understand that, but I would counter:
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When no women won or were nominated it would reveal the bias and we could then make adjustments to the electors
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That bias would still exist if categories were segregated. Who is to say the best performers are actually winning? If they’re willing to pass over a woman in favor of a man, then they’re probably willing to pass over the deserving nominee in favor of another one they’re biased towards - across the board.
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Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 hours ago
The “Ensors”, awards for the Flemish audiovisual sector introduced gender neutral awards last year.
Surprise, all awards went to men.
There’s a huge inequality within the sector already, it’s not surprising that that reflects in the awards given. It’s the same as being surprised that the CEO of the year awards yet again goes to a rich white guy.
BurningRiver@beehaw.org 17 hours ago
Without spoiling the show, get up to date with the show.
heavyboots@lemmy.ml 15 hours ago
I mean, that seems relatively obvious to me (best actor and actress being separate categories that is), and I bet they’re trying to stir up shit from a really simple statement she made? Quite possibly they also stoop to hand-wringing about “whatever category should we put a transgender person in?” too.
I refuse to read the article and give them clicks though.
ursakhiin@beehaw.org 3 hours ago
I for one look forward to the day that a trans person wins best actor and actress both before and after transition.
chase_what_matters@lemmy.world 1 day ago
“I have a guttural, ‘That’s not quite right,’ instinct to [being called an actress],” Ramsey said. “But I just don’t take it too seriously… it doesn’t feel like an attack on my identity.”
coyootje@lemmy.world 1 day ago
So, genuine question. If someone is non-binary (which I believe Bella has said they are), does that mean that they are in the run for best actress? Or best actor? It sounds like it’s best actress but it seems like a bit of a difficult one. What would happen with someone with pronouns opposite of their birth gender?
chase_what_matters@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Bella addresses this in the article. But it’s just their personal take. It’s an easy read.
CrayonDevourer@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
Based.
Lyra_Lycan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 hours ago
Once again the title of the article says ‘gender’ but the entire article only mentions sexes. Come on…
A brief explanation:
‘Man’ and ‘woman’ are now binary references to the individual’s gender if known to be such, or appearance if said individual presents as mostly masculine or feminine in a social setting, as the terms have always been used to refer to a person. In contrast, ‘male’ and ‘female’ are references to the individual’s sex and genitalia. Gender is not sex.Additionally:
Gender is the name given to an aspect of personality relating to a few traits that have been defined by current societal ideals as masculine or feminine, quantified with a whole set of labels because people must be quantifiable by tickboxes, apparently. Sex is originally assigned at birth by many hospitals and population censuses once the existence of reproductive organs on the individual has been verified as male or female, and regardless of whether an internal reproductive system transplant takes place, can be changed.Older folk are confused, because they’ve been referring to sexes as genders for decades. We need to get this right.
SaltSong@startrek.website 5 hours ago
We need to get this right.
Step one is going to be working out vocabulary among yourselves before you start trying to teach it to us. I used to try to be correct, but the “correct” tends changed from person to person, group to group, and every six months or so.
Once you’ve figured it out, let us old folks know, and most of us will, I hope, make the adjustment.
JokeDeity@lemm.ee 1 day ago
Why can’t you both preserve and add to?
SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 hours ago
Wait… entertainment awards are gender segregated?