Submitted 5 days ago by tonytins@pawb.social to games@lemmy.world
https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/we-all-deserve-better-than-this/
The 9070’s on eBay are getting cheaper and cheaper the further we get from the launch. I think scalpers underestimated AMD’s stock and they are slowly discovering that.
Immediately after the launch the XT seemed to be starting at $1,200. Now they are down to $800. The non-xt is down to $650.
Depends on how much stock AMD can provide in the coming weeks and months, but I’m still thinking I’ll be able to get one at MSRP this year.
I’m not sure where you are seeing this but on eBay they are still showing a ton of cards from 12-1800.
This shit is a problem and only the apathetic retailers can fix it.
Being bought, or being sold? There’s a difference. If they’re not being bought at those numbers, they’ll still show up the most.
They also said “starting”, which implies that’s what it’s being sold at, not what you see the most listings for.
It still see them more around 800-900€ which is more than what i paid for a 7900XT wtf
In Germany the official Gigabyte shop sells those for 1141€. This is completely nuts.
I’m having a good time on a laptop with no fancy graphics card and have no desire to buy one.
I also do not look for super high graphical fidelity, play mostly indies instead of AAA, and am like 5 years behind the industry, mostly buying old gems on sale, so my tastes probably enable this strategy as much as anything else.
Modern high end iGPUs (e.g. AMD Strix Halo) are going to start replacing dGPUs in the entry and mid-range segments.
I’ll be honest, I have never paid attention to GPUs and I don’t understand what your comment is trying to say or (this feels selfish to say) how it applies to me and my comment. Is this intended to mostly be a reply to me, or something to help others reading the thread?
Same here, have never owned a graphics card in my life. When I occasionally do want a modern game I don’t need it at 120FPS with max settings.
I’ve been using minipcs with integrated graphics ( and one with a laptop class GPU) instead of desktops for around the house and see no reason to stop.
I just kept an eye on Micro Center’s refurbished cards for a few weeks and was able to snag a 3090Ti late last year with a 3-yr warranty for the same price I paid for a 980Ti in 2015.
I think that might be my plan too, but I’m still waiting a paycheck or two before I even monitor the situation. My 2070 is fine and ultimately I just want to pass it down to a spare PC for kids to mess around on as my oldest hits 3. I know my the time I hit 5 I was playing shit like Dune 2, admittedly with hacked save files my dad setup.
My RX480 from 2016 is still kicking, if crashing a bit. At this rate when it breaks I’ll just use my steam deck docked instead of selling my liver to buy a new GPU
Less than a year since I upgraded from my RX580 and I only did it because I got an amazingly stupid deal on a RX7600 ($175 about 3 months after launch). Otherwise, the card is fine and is, in fact, still being used on my cousin’s PC.
I have an RX580 as my eGpu. I was thinking of upgrading this year as I got a new laptop. Works great though.
Rocking this Polaris until it Explodis
I saved up 2k over a year for a 5090. Gave up and bout a last gen AMD card with a waifu on it and may get a new phone with the left over.
Been that way for years. There was a brief respite when people were switching to ASIC bitcoin mining and away from GPU intensive mining and you could actually get a GPU for a fair price, retail, non-scalper price gouging.
Now it’s right back to basically unaffordable for a name brand GPU. Literally more than a mortgage payment.
I wish my mortgage was that low.
Beats me how much your mortgage is, prices I’m seeing for a 4080 Ti are north of $2500.
Funny thing about AMD is the MI300X is supposedly not selling well. Other than the Framework desktop, they are desperate to stay as uncompetitive in the AI space as they possibly can.
Wasn’t the Intel B580 a good launch, though? It seems to have gotten rave reviews, and it’s in stock, yet has exited the hype cycle.
I looked for months for a b580 for my wifes pc. Couldn’t get one in stock for MSRP during that time. Finally caved and grabbed a 6900xt for $400 used. The intel cards are awesome, if you can get one. I do hope intel keeps up the mid range offerings at sane prices
Intel b580 still showing out of stock everywhere I normally look.
In stock, but not at the right price. MSRP is $250. The cards I’m seeing are $350 and up.
For $250 it’s a good card. For $350 not so much.
Well the B580 is a budget / low-power GPU. All the discussions going around are for flagship and high-end GPUs. Intel isn’t in that space yet, but we can hope they have a B7xx lined up which makes some waves.
Probs the only reason for many to buy a console these days. For the cost of a high end GPU you can get an entire system and some games.
I have a powerful computer for my work with a 3090, i9 etc. I still prefer gaming on the Xbox, it’s in the living room, it doesn’t bother me with driver issues, CPU overheating, and other random bugs I get on the big machine, and it’s in the living room where I’m also spending the time with my family rather than stuck in my cave upstairs.
I’ve been gaming on my SteamDeck for quite a while and I will continue that. There’s no way that I’m paying that much money for a new gaming computer
IDK. I see plenty of RTX 3060’s and 4060’s around for relatively cheap, but I didn’t follow the evolution of PC components in years, and my GTX 1060 still works, lol.
I got tired of the whole GPU, PC building thing. It’s something that everybody should do once in their lives if only to learn how computers are put together. However, at a certain point, I just want come home, sit down and play games without having to fiddle around with drivers, so I bought a console.
Is this a bait? Swapping parts once per few years was THE reason to choose something you can’t easily repair?
Right? I find solace in the fact that I can update individual parts of my PC over the years to play whatever new game catches my fancy. Buying a whole new console every generation seems wasteful.
I’m definitely not on board with pixel chasers upgrading graphic cards every year, though. That feels even more wasteful.
You know, I was thinking about upgrading my graphics card this year along with the rest of my PC but I think I can squeeze a couple more years out of my 3060 TI at this rate.
I squeezed 7 years out of my 1070 before I replaced it.
You can easily get another 2-4 years out of your GPU. A 3060ti isn’t even old.
My desktop still has a 1060. It’s not great in new games but still works.
I am not really interested in modern gaming, but I needed a 16GB NVidia GPU for the AI/ML course I’m currently doing. I wanted to get a 16GB 4060Ti, but they were out of stock literally everywhere. In the end I gave up and got a 12GB 3060. It’s not as good as what I wanted, but at least it was cheap and readily available.
It’s pretty okay if you’re like me, i.e. have no needs above full hd res and can either take or leave rtx
It should still be better. Or at least cheaper.
Dasnap@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Crypto, followed by NFTs, followed by LLMs… The GPU market has been fucked for years now. Whenever something starts to drop off, another tech bro idea that requires 10,000 GPUs to process takes its place.
scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 5 days ago
Truly just the brute force solution. Need a shitload of compute? GPUs can do it! No one stops to think if we really need it. It’s all about coulda, not shoulda. Yeah, ML and AI has a place, but big tech just thinks “slap an LLM everywhere”. Just such horseshit
omarfw@lemmy.world 4 days ago
The tech industry chases acquisition and investor money only now, not consumer demand or innovative achievement. It’s all just people trying to get rich, mostly so they can escape the effects of late stage capitalism.
merc@sh.itjust.works 5 days ago
The Crypto to AI transition was brutal. Just as demand for GPUs was coming down because people were starting to use ASICs to mine Bitcoin, along comes AI to drive up non-gaming demand again.
The only good news is that eventually when the AI bubble pops there will be massive R&D and manufacturing geared towards producing GPUs. Unless something else comes along… But really, I can’t see that happening because the AI bubble is so immense and is such an enormous part of the entire world’s economy.
LiveLM@lemmy.zip 3 days ago
Petition to shoot the next tech bro with a “innovative” idea