More than “mildly infuriating”, this is deeply depressing.
(And seeing TikTok two times there’s don’t make things better…)
I wonder if people know why they are downloading and using a VPN. Especially when you’re talking about the more sketchy ones.
The Top 3 Apps in my Country (Venezuela) are all VPNs...
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Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 5 days ago
fushuan@lemm.ee 5 days ago
To avoid region locking. Anything else regarding security is just bogus talk they trying sell you.
lukewarm_ozone@lemmy.today 5 days ago
Security as in cybersecurity, yes. Security as in not getting caught violating government bans, not so much - if you’re in a country where getting repressed by your government is a real possibility, it helps a lot for it to not be possible to see exactly what sites you visit. Reminder: even over HTTPS, the domain name (like
lemmy.world) is normally not encrypted. Encrypted Client Hello can solve this, but it has only started being commonly used a year ago or so, and more importantly requires the host to support it.
NONE_dc@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Superficially, maybe. But not in depth, like knowing what a VPN actually does and such.
Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 5 days ago
I wonder how much of that ‘education’ is from ads and influencers constantly pushing VPNs. LOL
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 5 days ago
Considering that there is a ton of censorship there I think they definitely know why.
surph_ninja@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Source?
It’s my understanding the issue isn’t Venezuelan officials censoring, so much as other countries blocking access from Venezuelan users.
Irelephant@lemm.ee 5 days ago
at least its proton vpn instead of the scammy ones.
Snapz@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Careful who you trust, proton is trump scum
Irelephant@lemm.ee 4 days ago
Just found out today. this is why we cant have nice things.
italics2@lemmy.world 4 days ago
You fell for a sensationalising post.
RandomVideos@programming.dev 4 days ago
What did they do?
PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Should I still be using Surfshark? I only use it because it’s fast.
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 5 days ago
Venezuela is one of those countries that just constantly seems to be in a bad state. I can’t imagine living under a government that disrespects its people.
As it turns out unalienable rights are totally alienable
surph_ninja@lemmy.world 5 days ago
It’s in a bad state now because of the sanctions placed upon it. It was in a bad state before because of capitalist rule.
vga@sopuli.xyz 5 days ago
For a colonial power, Spain was a real douchebag.
rbesfe@lemmy.ca 5 days ago
There are plenty of other former Spanish colonies that are doing much better than Venezuela
DankOfAmerica@reddthat.com 5 days ago
A colonial powers in the Americas were real douchebags. They genocided the natives, then went to another continent to enslave people and bring them over. All this was for sugar and tobacco. Millions of deaths and enslaved so some people in Europe could smoke cigarettes while they have sweets. It couldn’t get much worse than that.
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 days ago
I can’t imagine living under a government that disrespects its people.
lol you in antarctica?
underwire212@lemm.ee 4 days ago
And I wonder who’s fault it is for turning and keeping it in a state of perpetual decay 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 days ago
that’s because the us and the cia spent years destabilising it
yessikg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 days ago
Self-centered USAmericans thinking Venezuela is the way it is because of them, ha. The USA has just followed in Venezuela’s footsteps, electing a dictator
StarlightDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 days ago
Its a shame so many people are trying to go for Proton since they expressed support for a Trump pick
Kekzkrieger@feddit.org 4 days ago
I for one, while being as anti-trump as it gets, do not judge a company and their service based on the political view of an individual that works there. Yes there are some principle decisions that one can make but the software itself is good and the service they offer.
cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 days ago
i mean andy doesnt just work there hes the literal ceo and 1/5th of the board
teije9@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 days ago
because of their incredible no logs policy. Its the best vpn according to piracy communities.
poke@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
While I am deeply disappointed by the message, their actions in the industry have still been generally positive over the years and their services remain one of the only reasonable alternatives to google, apple, and microsoft’s cloud services. Outside of the VPN, Their UX still needs work before I can say its ready for the average person - but It’s still good enough for most people here who have some base level of technological literacy.
Though I am now looking for and hoping for an alternative to crop up somewhere.
cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 days ago
cozying up to a five eyes country isn’t a good look for a privacy company
P4ulin_Kbana@lemmy.eco.br 4 days ago
Wasn’t it just the CEO?
StarlightDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 days ago
Lila_Uraraka@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 days ago
Proton VPN is one of the few great ones, along with Mullvad and Windscribe
StarlightDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 days ago
They just came out in support of the Republicans today, sadly.
Kekzkrieger@feddit.org 4 days ago
They as Proton did not.
Their current CEO did.
Massive difference, this may be their personal opinion but surely it does not speak for the whole company.
RagingSnarkasm@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Same as Florida… but for different reasons.
NONE_dc@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Oh yeah, I know why lol
quixotic120@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Isn’t tiktok free? Why would you need a lite version. Is it for old phones that can’t run much?
NONE_dc@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Yes, is for old phones and such. A mutual told me the main app is bad optimized, and a lot of smartphone here are very VERY old. Mine have like 5 years or so, I think that’s like 5 decades in more “develop” countries.
Third-world shenanigans, you know.
reseller_pledge609@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 days ago
If it’s anything like Facebook lite, it’s literally a wrapper for the website. Not even a proper app. Usually a worse experience than using a real browser, but the main apps are usually so bad that people with older phones put up with the lite “apps”.
hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 5 days ago
Is that because of the political situation? Like repression, internet censorship... Or an unrelated trend?
NONE_dc@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Yeah, is political. We can enter twitter (not that I care) and other sites.
hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 5 days ago
Just read the government is currently also on a VPN banning spree. I guess that list is going to change frequently now, if people continue with watching Youtube, Instagram and Twitter.
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 5 days ago
Me and many others all run the Snowflake browser extension so that you can still bypass censorship with Tor. With Snowflakes it is impossible to block Tor without blocking the public internet.
Also Briar messager can be used for communication in the event of internet black outs.
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 days ago
I wish USA was as free as Venezuela to allow TikTok. It sucks living under a fascist terror empire.
No_Ones_Slick_Like_Gaston@lemmy.world 3 days ago
“as free as Venezuela”
My brother in Christ, I have news for you.
fxomt@lemm.ee 3 days ago
Of course! we welcome you into the third world! I hope you can deal with literal fascism, state sponsored oppression/murder, bad economies, police states, and theocracy!
It sucks living under a fascist terror empire.
Dude, almost every single developing country is like this, and when it is fascist, it is actual italian-style fascism. I, and i’m sure the OP would too and many others, would give anything just to be in your place.
I’m not saying you can’t complain about the US, but comparing your life to ours is incredibly privileged.
Countmacula@lemmy.world 3 days ago
How good is adguard VPN? Got a good deal on 5 years of it.
fxomt@lemm.ee 5 days ago
May i ask how is the censorship in venezuela?
NONE_dc@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Is not north Korea nor China, I can assure you that.
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 5 days ago
Have you been to any of those places? It feels weird to use North Korea as a comparison.
fxomt@lemm.ee 5 days ago
So it’s not too bad? with how corrupt venezuela is, you’d think they would censor a lot of things. That’s how it works in most corrupt countries including mine at least.
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 days ago
It looks like TikTok is still available so it’s better than USA.
fxomt@lemm.ee 3 days ago
Tiktok isn’t banned in Saudi either. Does that make us better than the USA, too?
Tiktok being banned in the US is pretty authoritarian, but using it as the only metric is a little BS.
hellfire103@lemmy.ca 5 days ago
Well, at least the No. 1 spot is a trustworthy VPN.
NONE_dc@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Yeah, but the other two… (And fucking there twice! TWICE!)
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 5 days ago
None of those apps are the official Ticktok app.
Honestly I would try to get most of your apps from F-droid. F-droid only has free and open source software which means it is typically much less sketchy.
mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 days ago
That only increased proton’s load and now it would be worse for other free users
DankOfAmerica@reddthat.com 5 days ago
Maybe pay for the service?