The game isn’t for you.
They continue to do very little updates and charge full price because people keep buying it.
They sell like crazy. There was a chart that showed Madden selling more per year than most Nintendo games.
Madden should not be 70$
Submitted 1 year ago by alphacyberranger@lemmy.world to games@lemmy.world
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Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 1 year ago
dmm@lemmy.world 1 year ago
It’s a free market. Just don’t buy it
Targy@lemmy.world 1 year ago
No game should be 70$ if you ask me
Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Games should not follow inflation at all?
N64 games were 50$ in the 90s, more limited releases (Ogre Battle 64 for example) were 60$.
Games pricing has stagnated, that’s good for the consumers but bad for smaller developers…
Selmafudd@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Surely the difference in overheads involved in physical vs digital would mean profits are increasing at a higher rate then sale price
Hunter2@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
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The medium games came in were more expensive
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The gaming audience was much smaller
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Games were only sold in stores
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If you add all the season passes you’re paying the same or even more with further microtransactions
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Games in general now have a longer shelf life
AAA games in my country have been 69,99€ since the PS3 launch and now they’re asking 79,99€. It’s true development costs have ballooned, but I just don’t think that’s a good price/time ratio and rarely do I buy games over 15€. I really don’t mind waiting a couple years.
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WereCat@lemmy.world 1 year ago
If you’re going to count in inflation then I’m going to count in the poor quality of those games
FoxBJK@midwest.social 1 year ago
Tears of the Kingdom was $70, and I honestly feel like it was worth it because it’s quite an entertaining and enthralling experience.
“Pro football video game v. 34” is probably not in the same caliber though.
Targy@lemmy.world 1 year ago
TofK could be the best game ever made (and I don’t think it’s too far fetched given how good it is) and I still wouldn’t justify anything bigger than 50€, 60€ being generous.
13esq@lemmy.world 1 year ago
New releases used to be £40 when I was a kid (twenty years ago), given inflation, £70 sounds not too bad.
MrNesser@lemmy.world 1 year ago
That $40 included plastic packaging and a disc both of which largely don’t exist anymore.
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 year ago
40? I remember when they were 20. Hell, I remember when you could get slightly older titles for 10. I used to go to Egghead and buy slightly older games with my allowance.
acosmichippo@lemmy.world 1 year ago
more importantly they sell way more units now. It takes virtually no more effort or cost for gaming companies to sell 20 million units vs 1 million.
berg@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Depends on the playtime you get out of it. 140hrs+? Great value.
Targy@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I have devoted that amount of hours or even more to some games and still think the 40-50€ that costed me each one of them when I bought them is too much.
Entertainment shouldn’t be that expensive. Period.
Spacecraft@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I dunno. Baldurs Gate 3 has a truly unbelievable amount of content in it. $70 for it is almost unfair when you consider how far $70 gets you in almost any other hobby.
Targy@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Someone told me something similar about Tears of the Kingdom and my answer is the same: BG3 could be the greatest game ever made with content from here to eternity, but 70$ is still too much for a game. Specially considering who ends up benefitting the most from the sales.
Amilo159@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Let me share a secret with you: Madden (Year) is the same game as Madden (Year-1).
alphacyberranger@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Wait, if I rename my Madden1.exe to Madden23.exe will I get the latest game?
redcalcium@lemmy.institute 1 year ago
“SportGame (Year-1) is literally unplayable because my favorite player is no longer in Team X.”
– Every sport sim players
sucricdrawkcab@lemmy.world 1 year ago
PS3 NCAA 14 blows next gen Madden out of the water. It’s not even close.
Noctis@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Typically yeah but this year is actually the first time PC is getting the next gen version ps5/xs have had since 21
AndreyAsimow@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Sport games should be sold as game as service rather than yearly releases.
CorrodedCranium@leminal.space 1 year ago
I wonder if they’d have a hard time selling a service that doesn’t include the micro-transactions.
AndreyAsimow@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Relying on only seasonal subscriptions is not enough. They have to sell something else és well to keep up.
magic_lobster_party@kbin.social 1 year ago
Why? They’re probably making way more money this way anyways.
Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
No yearly release should be $70.
Ostrichgrif@lemmy.world 1 year ago
At this his point they could start charging $100 a year for it and I wouldn’t even blame them.
kemsat@lemmy.world 1 year ago
For like 20 years y’all have been buying the game, year after year, even if it’s not worth it.
legion@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Football video games were such a big part of my childhood in the 80s and 90s, but football video games died the day NFL2K died.
Ashtear@lemm.ee 1 year ago
See also: Pokémon.
I’ve always been bothered by the lack of competition (and anti-competitive behavior) in the football space.
acosmichippo@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Madden is worth whatever people are willing to pay for it.
greavous@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I’d say that’s its because there’s only really 1 country that’s going to buy it in large numbers but the reality is it’s the standard ea tax. Stop buying it every year or stop complaining.
CorrodedCranium@leminal.space 1 year ago
Just take your John Madden Sega Genesis ROM and use this tool to update the roster yourself. Who’d be able to tell the difference?
sturmblast@lemmy.world 1 year ago
those of us that actually play the game
Thedogspaw@midwest.social 1 year ago
Madden is so dumb its literally the same game with one feature taken out and one feature reintroduced every year
Aceticon@lemmy.world 1 year ago
If people buy it anyway at the full price, then the game publisher will correctly deduce that it indeed worth at least that much money for enough people (otherwise part ways with that much money to get it) to get that game as soon as it comes out.
In Economics, perfect pricing (which is not yet possible but, damn, they’re really trying hard) from the point of view of a seller is when they get exactly as much money from each individual as that person is willing to pay for it, so the “ideal” world for them would be individually-tailored prices.
As they can’t as of yet sell at different prices to each and every individual, they’ve gone as far as they can (regional pricing, different prices in different stores with different audiences and, maybe more importantly, time-from-publishing pricing) and then push prices up and up slowly whilst checking if in total the price increase has yielded more money or not (they have no issue with loosing customers due to higher prices if in total they still make more money at the price point than at a lower price point).
IMHO, in the face of this, the easist and best reaction for somebody who wants the game but is does not think it’s worth $70 is to wait until the price falls down to how much they’re willing to pay for it. In fact if enough people do it the price will fall much faster as the publisher’s sales data analysis will signal to them that they’ve put the game at too high a price point and they’ll lower it trying to pick up the “money left on the table” from those who are interested but not at that price point before those people loose interest.
TommySalami@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Jokes on them, my limit is wildly low compared to this. Most sports games are worth 20 bucks at this point, the main content is just reskinned gameplay with updated stats and an unnecessary twist on controls. Its DLC.
themajesticdodo@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Wow. Please tell me more about this capitalistic wizardry. This comment just wasn’t quite excessively detailed enough.
Aceticon@lemmy.world 1 year ago
So you just had to write what in your eyes is “redundant and in obvious” as a comment about finding some other comment “redundant and obvious”…
Oh, the irony!!
Devious_Thoughts@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 year ago
What is the allure to a yearly new Madden game?
Jyek@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Statistics of players being updated and new character models being added. Nothing that couldn’t be done in an update. Honestly most sports games should literally just be games as a service already.
ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Updated stats and roster. Slight gameplay tweaks.
yokonzo@lemmy.world 1 year ago
God look at those crusty ass grass textures, def not $70 material
gerryflap@feddit.nl 1 year ago
They know that people are going to pay for it. For exactly the same reason I haven’t bought a Formula 1 game in a few years. Every year it’s just not quite worth the 60-70 euro’s for me. I’m not even that mad about the 70 euro price tag if I get something nice for it in return, everything has gotten more expensive and games have been 60 euro since forever, but last year’s game with some small changes is not going to cut it for that price.
ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world 1 year ago
And yet for years sports fans have enjoyed themselves.
Christ you fuckers are pushy.
IT’S NOT FOR YOU. GET OVER IT.
Izzent@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Elitist twat.
ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Lolol YOU’RE (royal) the one constantly telling Madden fans how dumb they are. 🤷♂️
Phegan@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I loved sports games growing up, but they are absolutely terrible now. Over priced, full of cash grabs and needlessly complex. I just want to hit x to pass. I don’t want a fucking story line, I just want to play the game.
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 year ago
You can get cheaper tickets to a real game.
sturmblast@lemmy.world 1 year ago
lol have you seen ticket prices lately?
son_named_bort@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Maybe nosebleeds at a bottom 5 NFL team, and even that is questionable. Football tickets are very expensive these days.
nomnomdeplume@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Let’s say you score a 20$ ticket to a 3.5 hour game. That comes to $5.7 per hour of entertainment. Meanwhile, this game at $70 means you only need to put in 12.5 hours of playtime to get the equivalent, and after you can continue to play as much as you want unlike the in-person ticketed experience.
legion@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Anytime I consider buying a Madden game, I watch a YouTube video of competitive play for the latest version. It always reveals how garbage the football sim part is. It’s all audibles and hot route spam and exploiting the useless AI in the same ways over and over again.
I’ll never buy a Madden game while all that crap is in there. They should make it so that spamming audibles and hot routes causes players to blow assignments and false start all the time, but the average “competitive” Madden player would probably die from nonstop crying and pants-soiling if EA did anything like that.
Mdotaut801@lemmy.world 1 year ago
That’s actually a brilliant solution. Wanna spam audibles? Flag, false start. Or like you said, botched assignments, perhaps a lineman fucks a protection and you take a sack.
Madden games are such trash, the last one I touched had Peyton Hillis on the cover. I’ve always assumed they’re still ass. I truly don’t know how people play sports games in general.
Katana314@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I don’t know what audibles are, but I’ve become increasingly interested in action-strategy type games that find ways to directly punish players that have high Actions Per Minute, encouraging people to take fewer, more deliberate movements. Kinda like combo rhythm in Arkham, rather than mashing X to attack.
Pottsunami@lemmy.world 1 year ago
The only sports game worth buying is nba 2k. The graphics are way better. The franchise mode is a million times better. There is less glitches. Stop buying madden. Tell the NFL you dont want EA anymore
KickAssDuke@lemmy.world 1 year ago
*Wii Sports has entered the chat
Delusional@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I also enjoy FIFA. Certainly wouldn’t buy it full price but $5-$10 is worth it.
SCB@lemmy.world 1 year ago
people should be paid more for their work!
things shouldn’t cost slightly more money!
Gotta pick one chief.
orangeboats@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Cut the CEOs’ pay and you’ll be able to get both
SCB@lemmy.world 1 year ago
EAs CEO makes $20MM. They have 13k employees. That’s an $1100 raise, give or take, if you take every penny from the CEO.
So no, it won’t get you both, in any meaningful sense.
Vordus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 year ago
EA chose neither.
SCB@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Do you have a source on that? Because EA pays in the top 20-25% for their market.
vividspecter@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Are these still cut down releases based on last-gen console versions? That seems to be the historical trend with EA PC ports.
But even if not, that price is still high.
WorldieBoi@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Same for FIFA. Or EAFC.
WarmSoda@lemm.ee 1 year ago
I got Madden 22 for free. It was the first Madden I’ve played since the 360. It was fun for about half a season and then everything falls apart.
theworstshepard@lemmynsfw.com 1 year ago
Are you maddening?
sucricdrawkcab@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I buy Madden on sale every 2 years. Last year was the first time I bought it new since Madden 25. Same game with betterish graphics
vox@sopuli.xyz 1 year ago
madden should not be
scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 1 year ago
Yeah I have a version of Madden from 2015 that works perfectly fine and seems to be more or less the same game, have been very happy with it. I refuse to pay $70 for a game that I know is riddled with microtransactions for really… nothing else changing
DetectiveKakuna@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I am curious as to why you say the game riddled with microtransactions? The only micro-transactions I have ever seen is the card pack shit and that is incredibly easy to not pay for by just playing the other 95% of gameplay features they offer in the game that are completely free of microtransactions.
HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Not gonna lie, Madden shouldn’t even be 7 dollars.
mojo@lemm.ee 1 year ago
then don’t buy it people keep buying it, so why wouldn’t they raise the price?
woelkchen@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Typical moron gamer moment, though: Bitch about price, buy it anyway, leave a bad review at 500 hours played, and repeat next year.
BilboBargains@lemmy.world 1 year ago
They named this pathology The Maddening.
twistedtxb@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
Now that FIFA’s gone, EA needs another cash cow.
lud@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Fifa isn’t gone, only the FIFA in-game branding is gone. It’s just called FC24 instead of FIFA 24.
And most of the world that plays FIFA isn’t going to play an American football game. American football is completely different and not relatable to pretty much anyone except those from USA (or maybe Canada, dunno).