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MrMobius@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
I thought the US would be way up there given the intensive livestock industry there. But I guess we all underestimated the pig industry in China. They have multi-storey slaughter houses for pigs over there!
Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
Really, why?
Like why not process rural, it has to be cheaper to just use rural land and go horizontal than vertical.
Liz@midwest.social 4 months ago
We used to do vertical in Chicago. You drive the livestock to the top floor, butcher them there, then use gravity to move them around.
blaue_Fledermaus@mstdn.io 4 months ago
Brazil certainly should be broken down by state, I imagine the USA as well.
My state in south Brazil has VERY strict controls on animals entering the state so we can use less antibiotics and other stuff.
Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 4 months ago
Then you’d likely have to do that for every country with subdivisions that affect the chart
Enkers@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
Hope you had a great christmas
My leek+mushroom stuffed seitan roast was delicious, antibiotic-free, and cruelty-free. So tyvm, I did.
Tangent5280@lemmy.world 4 months ago
How did it taste? Do you have a recipe I can follow? I don’t know hoe far a vegan ingredients shopping run will go where I live though.
Enkers@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
The gluten doesn’t have a very strong flavour on its own (it basically tastes like unflavoured bread) but it picks up whatever you season it with very well. The recipe I make goes for a typical poultry seasoning with nooch and veggie broth. The stuffing is very umami with a little brightness from the lemon. It’s very yummy.
Here’s the recipe I use for the roast:
theppk.com/…/seitan-roast-stuffed-with-shiitakes-…
And I make the gravy from this recipe:
rabbitandwolves.com/vegan-crispy-black-pepper-cau…
(Which incidentally is also a very good vegan holiday recipe in its own right!)
You might have trouble finding vital wheat gluten. I’d recommend checking either health food or bulk stores, or just buying it online. Everything else should be pretty easily accessible.
While you can make the recipe with the wash-the-flour method from regular flour, it’s already a bit of a challenging recipe, and you have to tweak quite a few things to get the proper wet:dry ratio, so I wouldn’t recommend it, especially for your first try.
PagingDoctorLove@lemmy.world 4 months ago
If you get a lot of specialty items (like faux cheeses and meats) it won’t go far. If you shop like normal but just skip the animal products it’ll almost surely be cheaper than regular groceries. You can make your own seitan very easily, there are many YouTube videos showing you how. It’s just a simple dough that is washed and kneaded to develop the gluten. You can also make your own tofu, but tofu is dirt cheap unless you get fancy stuff so I recommend just buying it.
veganpizza69@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Going to have to try that.
deegeese@sopuli.xyz 4 months ago
Are the nordics low because of cleaner feed operations, or are the nordics zero because it’s been banned?
Nikelui@lemmy.world 4 months ago
In Scandinavia they have a policy to minimize the use of antibiotics, even on people, to prevent antibiotic resistance.
Delirioum@programming.dev 4 months ago
Which has two sides to it. It is very hard to get antibiotics unless there is a clear sign of a specific infection going on, e.g. after a tick bite those red circles on the skin.
In any other case just having high fever for a bit does not prompt doctors to check for bacterial infections. Instead they ask you how long you got that fever and if you say anything lower than 6/7 days they simply tell you to come back after 6/7 days if the fever isn’t gone still. Only then they run a blood test and prescribe antibiotics, should you have a bacterial infection.
I understand the idea but you could probably test much earlier and give the antibiotics, if useful, earlier so that people can avoid feeling miserable for just a few days instead of a whole week. It also just prompts people to lie about how long they’ve been sick, just in case.
ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
Agriculture isn’t terribly industrialised in Sweden and Norway. So smaller farms means fewer animals get infected when something is going around. And fewer practises like weaning piglets early and giving them prophylactic antibiotics.
And the projection makes them look big on the map.
MissJinx@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Easy to not use any when you can just freeze bacteria to death lol
Kolanaki@yiffit.net 4 months ago
henfredemars@infosec.pub 4 months ago
Informative shitpost.
ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 4 months ago
It’s probably misinformation.
obscur_e@lemm.ee 4 months ago
how much antibiotics should i take if i go to china? im around 70 kilos
Birch@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
Depends, do you plan on being eaten?
abbadon420@lemm.ee 4 months ago
Depends on how long you want to remain in Chinese prison
Acinonyx@lemmy.sdf.org 4 months ago
>china being a shithole again
every time
franzcoz@feddit.cl 4 months ago
Thanks, greetings from Chile x.x
ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Your country is really long. Mine’s pretty long too, though not as long as yours.
AA5B@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Wait, is this really true? I always assumed US was on the bad side of this trend
Delphia@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Americas is low because they are cheap bastards, not out of any concern for food quality or animal welfare.
BudgetBandit@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
I get the color coding, I don’t like it.
ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Aren’t colors fun
lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com 4 months ago
Mmmmh… Antibiotic with taste of chicken… Yummy…
aquinteros@lemmy.world 4 months ago
this should be adjusted for amount produced … in chile the antibiotic usage is high but we mostly consume meat from Argentina and Brasil
ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 4 months ago
But it’s per kilogram of meat (produced).
SpiceDealer@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Can someone explain the disparity between Australia’s and New Zealand’s use of antibiotics in meat?
bollybing@lemmynsfw.com 4 months ago
Different countries, different laws.
Hawk@lemmynsfw.com 4 months ago
Probably exports. Small population + large number of exports, it’s possible the per capita scaling skews this.
evasive_chimpanzee@lemmy.world 4 months ago
In addition to what others said, they likely have different percentages of livestock. Beef vs. Dairy vs. Sheep, etc
ComradeMiao@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 months ago
Is this true? Every Chinese person I know says the US is more than China and it affects meat flavor
GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 4 months ago
I mean, thats asking the fox what he did in the hen house, to coin a paraphrase. Chinese citizens are generally very nationalistic and have a very skewed perspective due to the near total control of information the government has.
ComradeMiao@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 months ago
I got an interesting answer from family. They said they only get countryside local chicken this way they don’t get the factory chicken with all the meds. These are typically used in restaurants not homes.
This makes sense!
Acinonyx@lemmy.sdf.org 4 months ago
yeah I’m sure the chinese citizens only get told correct information by their government. I can’t imagine there being false propaganda in china
ComradeMiao@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 months ago
I got another answer in a comment that may be why
ComradeMiao@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 months ago
Might be true here I found this …ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/…/antibiotics-09-00918-f001/
jewbacca117@lemmy.world 4 months ago
The is is interesting. I thought the US would be much higher. Though doesn’t surprise me to see china so high up
MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
Light blue is bang on in the middle so it’s still quite a lot.
protist@mander.xyz 4 months ago
“Bang on in the middle” of the legend. Well, below the middle of the legend. The bottom half of the legend covers 0 - 50 while the top half covers 50 - 200+. The US is at 31 mg/kg as of 2020
testfactor@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I mean, we’re doing better than basically every other 1st world country, and those that are beating us don’t have big livestock industries.
MrNesser@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Survey was for antibiotics not steroids