Submitted 1 year ago by STRIKINGdebate2@lemmy.world to mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world
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Amazing how we’ve gone from “clap for the NHS they’re amazing” to “you want fair compensation? psst!”
Also if the strike has only been going on for a little while then how does the Daily Mail account for the fact that NHS quality has gone down every year of the decade long Tory rule.
Maybe it’s not the doctors that’s the problem… maybe it’s the politicians (including Labour since Wes Streeting is chomping at the bit to carve up the NHS and continue the Tory legacy)
They got their claps, what else do they want?
Guys! I have this genius idea.
Let’s pay them to stop the strike!
It’s so simple. Give them a reason to keep doing their jobs, and this whole thing can be over with. Amazing.
Our government can’t pay doctors, but it can give away trillions to private corporations and constantly raise the pay of politicians.
Almost like shitstains like Tories shouldn’t ever be elected. It’s amazing how dumb a certain percentage of the population is.
I’m interested, but do we get our mates from Eton to profit from this?
Wasn’t Brexit supposed to save them money so they can pour it back into the NHS?
Ah yes, another lie from the brexiteer brigade which is a gift for future generations to live with.
Our GDP per capita is now lower than Lithuania, just another brexit benefit.
You have no fucking clue what you’re talking about. If you think that life is bad in the UK, you’d die from starvation in Lithuania.
Yeah, right.
It’s not left vs right it’s wealthy vs everyone else
You just described the left part of left vs right.
I disagree.
Left is more than wealth. Left is often reffered to socialism or liberalism. Either cases have at its core nothing to do with wealthy at all. Its not because your local politics have the left as wealthy fuckwads that this is everywhere.
That said, dont get me wrong, this is some terrible shit to say and the wealthy should piss off.
So you’re trying to gaslight people into thinking that wealthy people only represent the left or the right? Rofl.
No. The true left is all about freedoms and rights - liberal democracy. What you call left is the same authorisation shit as right.
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Fuck the Daily Mail.
And The Sun along with them.
Absolute fucking tags that I wouldn’t wipe my ass with.
Written by, and for, cunts.
I feel the author also deserves some credit. So: Fuck Steve Barclay.
Anyone taking the Daily Mail as a serious news outlet is a lost cause anyway.
Their whole business model is to generate outrage through sensationalism.
We call it trolling and clickbait on the internet, apparently some media outlets call this a business strategy.
I mean, to be fair, it’s also a business strategy on the Internet.
What I am shocked at is people still buy tabloid news papers in the UK especially the junk papers like the daily mail. The UK media is brought and sold just like the US media. All trash, don’t support them.
Daily Mail is considered expensive toilet paper by a lot of Brits.
The worst thing about it is that it’s not even available in two-ply.
Yep, the Daily Fail. Fucking Murdoch rag.
It’s owned by Viscount Rothermere, another ultra rich wealth-hoarding media mogul.
So it’s the Fox News of Britain?
GB News and Talk TV are the Fox News of Britain.
I’d say the Daily Mail are more like an amalgamation of Breitbart and TMZ.
for an expensive toilet paper brand, even they try to save on manufacturing costs
Daily Hate Mail
How is “despite waiting lists being a record high” on the doctors? That’s on the hospitals or government for not hiring enough doctors, probably because they don’t pay well enough. The doctors should add “the waiting lists are too long” to their complaints (if not already on there).
[they] should add “the waiting lists are too long.
They have, for your information :)
He said: "The government was presiding over this problem long before any industrial action - waiting lists were steadily getting worse for the decade leading up to the pandemic arriving.
“In fact, it is these waiting lists - and doctors being unable to do their jobs because of underinvestment, workforce shortages and rota gaps - that lie behind the strikes they’re being forced to take now.”
But didn’t you hear? Nobody wants to work!!!(for slave wages and predatory insurance plans)
From the paper that brought you: “Hurrah for the Blackshirts” an editorial from 1934 reporting on Hitlers blackshirts, by the then editor Viscount Rothermere who’s son the current Viscount Rothermere still owns it… same shite different arsehole…
Why is written ‘harming’ in single quotes? Is this some opinion that someone has had that they are publishing as fact?
Yes, the health secretary, it literally says so in the headline.
I read a while back that it's to insulate the paper from any potential defamation lawsuits, the quotes are there to ensure the difference between "we believe the strikes are harming patients also this person says they must stop" and "this person believes the strikes are harming patients and also says they must stop"
It's actually very common practice in the UK, most headlines make use of quotations to endorse a position by means of quoting an opinion and providing context to that opinion.
In this specific case it is of course bullshit, the language of the headline is deliberately worded to incite anger against the healthcare professionals and the quotes are added to preserve the emotive qualities of the headline when read by the layperson while insulating the paper from legal risk.
Yeah it’s in the first line of the article under the headline.
Daily Fail or Daily Heil, there’s no denying that this is one useless rag of a tabloid.
Capitalism is pay to play bitch. Funny how it’s harmful when it affects their control but underfunding healthcare isn’t.
There’s nothing capitalist about the situation.
That’s the Daily Mail for you.
It’s a tabloid for the working class that actively promotes shitting on the working class. Unfortunately, they’re as popular now as they ever have been.
I would expect nothing else from the Daily Fail. That paper is a crock of shit.
Toilet paper is better, right?
It’s the Daily Mail… What were you expecting. Even toilet paper has more worth
Toilet paper is actually priceless. It’s very important. I think you meant “used” toilet paper.
The Daily Shart has never been anything but tabloid garbage, no one should ever be subjected to anything from that publication for the good of all humankind
Striking doctors...are striking doctors.
Yes, it will harm patients, but when wouldn't it? How exactly do they think strikes work, working anyway and loudly complaining?
And as can brought up, the people not meeting the demands should be falling under the same scrutiny. It could be ended by either side.
Thatcher outlawed this (surprise, surprise) but thr way Japanese train drivers strike is they run the trains but refuse to collect fairs. That seems like a much better system to me.
I don't know how doctors could do something similar though.
They do, doctors are still working for emergency cases, pre appointments get pushed…
The daily fail
Daily Heil
Would you just shut up, and tell me how Annabel will heal her heartache?!?!
It’s like every other instance of people demanding better pay the bosses always blame the workers.
Although in this case the bosses agree with the workers, it’s the utter idiots we have in government that are blame.
They aren’t idiots as much as they are greedy. They didn’t get into government leadership positions because they want to help people. They do it so they can take advantage of it and make money.
When they fuck up and people suffer, it isn’t an “accident”. It’s design because in the end they are making money off the people paying them off, etc.
Our big mistake is thinking these people are well intentioned, but forgiving their fuck ups because of “incompetence”. No, they are purposefully fucking you over to benefit themselves.
The bosses ARE the government. Never work for the public sector!
I wonder if putting “harming” in scarequotes is their way of saying “We’re not saying that!”
It is. They’re attributing the quote to Steve Barclay. But they’re aware that they’re also editorializing and endorsing the comment.
Well, appointments are being cancelled because of the strikes, so technically that’s correct? 🤷
Doctors aren’t the only ones with power to end the strike. What about their demands?
Understaffing, penny-pinching, forcing medical professionals to take on more and more work with no help, to say nothing of increased pay. These are the working conditions that hurt patients chronically.
That's why doctors and nurses strike. Especially THESE doctors - the new ones who just graduated from medical school. They're the single most exploited group of people working in healthcare when you account for how little they are paid in comparison to how much they're expected to work and how much revenue they generate.
In the US we call them resident doctors. In the UK junior doctors. I absolutely support their strike
It's the government that has systematically been selling off the NHS to private companies and allowing private insurers to let those who can pay skip those queues making them longer for everyone else, and it's the government that has refused to give enough money both to the NHS itself and its staff (intentionally, so that it can't function, which makes people like you complain about queues and blame strikes instead of looking at why they are both happening in the first place, while they're busy doing the aforementioned selling off and profiteering).
Well done for putting yourself up as an example to show everyone who this propaganda is aimed at and how well it works.
Whilst I agree that the daily mail is a peice of toilet paper, the rest of this post is concerning.
I would encourage you not to see the world in black and white. The NHS has been outsourcing operations to private providers since Tony Blares day, it’s not a new occurance.
Also private doesn’t have to mean american style healthcare. I would strongly encourage you to read up about how health care works in Germany and Franc. Both have fully privatised health care with goverment provided insurance coverage. Their systems are more efficient and provide better outcomes than the UK, whilst spending less money per person.
Whilst I agree front line staff are under paid, I also think the NHS suffers from poor management on a mid to upper level and that a polarised view set discourages us from seeking meaningful reforms.
If doctors aren’t working, patients aren’t being seen.
It’s not really that deep, but for some reason you’ve assumed my entire political philosophy from one short comment. Which is precisely the problem with political debate nowadays.
I walked into a doctor’s office. The guy referred me to someone by circling a number on a piece of paper then charged my insurance 250.
As someone who is consistently a patient I can very safely say that the only things that harm me are pharmaceutical and insurance companies. (I’m USA based)
Not much up to date with UK politics but striking Doctors sounds a bit irresponsible. I totaly get the need for fair compensation and they should totally get that, no question, but is it a good idea to strike in the health industry? There have to be better options, no? Or maybe I‘m just uninformed but this sounds like it’s puting peoples health at risk, which feels wrong to me.
I get the spirit, but it’s the first time I hear doctor labeled as working class. World has changed…
Not to detract from the discussion but does anyone know what’s handwritten at the top of the ‘paper’ above the word Daily? It looks like it says “Hi Hi Farm” or “4141 Farm” and it’s becoming that mystery that’s going to periodically pop in my head at night when I’m trying to sleep.
PooCrafter93@lemmy.sdf.org 1 year ago
Dude isn’t this “mildly infuriating”. The daily mail is designed to piss people off, feels more than “mildly” infuriating lol
can@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
!deliberatelyinfuriating?
PooCrafter93@lemmy.sdf.org 1 year ago
Lol