Daily Mail is considered expensive toilet paper by a lot of Brits.
The worst thing about it is that it’s not even available in two-ply.
Submitted 8 months ago by STRIKINGdebate2@lemmy.world to mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world
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Daily Mail is considered expensive toilet paper by a lot of Brits.
The worst thing about it is that it’s not even available in two-ply.
Daily Hate Mail
So it’s the Fox News of Britain?
GB News and Talk TV are the Fox News of Britain.
I’d say the Daily Mail are more like an amalgamation of Breitbart and TMZ.
for an expensive toilet paper brand, even they try to save on manufacturing costs
Yep, the Daily Fail. Fucking Murdoch rag.
It’s owned by Viscount Rothermere, another ultra rich wealth-hoarding media mogul.
The Daily Shart has never been anything but tabloid garbage, no one should ever be subjected to anything from that publication for the good of all humankind
Guys! I have this genius idea.
Let’s pay them to stop the strike!
It’s so simple. Give them a reason to keep doing their jobs, and this whole thing can be over with. Amazing.
Our government can’t pay doctors, but it can give away trillions to private corporations and constantly raise the pay of politicians.
Almost like shitstains like Tories shouldn’t ever be elected. It’s amazing how dumb a certain percentage of the population is.
I’m interested, but do we get our mates from Eton to profit from this?
Anyone taking the Daily Mail as a serious news outlet is a lost cause anyway.
Their whole business model is to generate outrage through sensationalism.
We call it trolling and clickbait on the internet, apparently some media outlets call this a business strategy.
I mean, to be fair, it’s also a business strategy on the Internet.
The daily fail
Daily Heil
But didn’t you hear? Nobody wants to work!!!(for slave wages and predatory insurance plans)
From the paper that brought you: “Hurrah for the Blackshirts” an editorial from 1934 reporting on Hitlers blackshirts, by the then editor Viscount Rothermere who’s son the current Viscount Rothermere still owns it… same shite different arsehole…
Not much up to date with UK politics but striking Doctors sounds a bit irresponsible. I totaly get the need for fair compensation and they should totally get that, no question, but is it a good idea to strike in the health industry? There have to be better options, no? Or maybe I‘m just uninformed but this sounds like it’s puting peoples health at risk, which feels wrong to me.
As far as I’m aware, doctors striking typically works differently than most other labor. They usually have a certain number of doctors in rotation working to take care of crticial things. Non-critical operation gets delayed indefinitely though.
Just like the rail worker strike in the US, my opinion is that if some people are that critical that anyone thinks they shouldn’t strike, their employers shouldn’t let it get to that point. Preferably the employees would have democratic control of the company so it never becomes an issue, but that’s not going to happen anytime soon.
I totaly get the need for fair compensation and they should totally get that, no question
Great!
but is it a good idea to strike in the health industry?
Oh, but I do see some questions here haha. I see your point, but to that end:
There have to be better options, no?
No, there really aren’t. All labor has is collective action (and although it seems crazy doctors are usually working class) . It’s the only way they’ve ever made progress, and where they lack it, workers’ rights are always eroded.
If healthcare never paid a decent wage in the first place, there wouldn’t be highly-skilled doctors and the population wouldn’t be at risk from suffering from a healthcare strike - because they would just be suffering day in and day out instead.
If it feels wrong, they can be paid. End of story.
How is “despite waiting lists being a record high” on the doctors? That’s on the hospitals or government for not hiring enough doctors, probably because they don’t pay well enough. The doctors should add “the waiting lists are too long” to their complaints (if not already on there).
[they] should add “the waiting lists are too long.
They have, for your information :)
He said: "The government was presiding over this problem long before any industrial action - waiting lists were steadily getting worse for the decade leading up to the pandemic arriving.
“In fact, it is these waiting lists - and doctors being unable to do their jobs because of underinvestment, workforce shortages and rota gaps - that lie behind the strikes they’re being forced to take now.”
If junior doctors are paid so badly wouldn’t a better response to this be to quit and do something else or move to a different country? You help yourself and eventually the NHS has to realise that only paying a gazillion bureaucrats whilst having too few and too badly paid doctors isn’t going to work out. To be fair this is already happening, many doctors have left and we have 22 month waiting times…
They are leaving.
Drexit (“Doctor-Exit”) is the exponentially growing trend for doctors to walk away from their jobs in the NHS, either to new healthcare systems overseas such as Canada, Australia, New Zealand or perhaps worse, into new professions altogether, leaving behind their well trained medical brains. This exodus has been gaining momentum for several years with the workforce now at breaking point.
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Four in 10 junior doctors are actively planning to quit the NHS as soon as they can find another job, according to a survey by the British Medical Association. The survey, released as part of the BMA chair of council Prof Philip Banfield’s new year message, found poor pay and working conditions were among the main reasons for junior doctors wanting to leave.
“If junior doctors are paid so badly wouldn’t a better response to this be to quit and do something else or move to a different country?”
They are, and they have been…? The NHS has been hemorrhaging staff since well before the pandemic, from nurses, senior nursing staff, registrars, junior doctors and consultants… I know at least 5 people myself from various hospital/GP health care trades that have unstick and moved to Canada, Australia or New Zealand… because of exactly these problems. They get payed better and have a higher quality of life in the commonwealth than back here…
What I am shocked at is people still buy tabloid news papers in the UK especially the junk papers like the daily mail. The UK media is brought and sold just like the US media. All trash, don’t support them.
I wonder if putting “harming” in scarequotes is their way of saying “We’re not saying that!”
It is. They’re attributing the quote to Steve Barclay. But they’re aware that they’re also editorializing and endorsing the comment.
Daily Fail or Daily Heil, there’s no denying that this is one useless rag of a tabloid.
Does this really belong in this community? Is this REALLY mildlyinfuriating?
I think so. I get the same sort of articles pushed on me in my news feed, like “How this 20 year old’s side hustle allowed her to buy a house with cash!” It feels sometimes like a narrative being pushed by media conglomerates to keep people hopeful or to sway public opinion, but I assume the actual answer is that those articles generate a reliable number of clicks and therefore revenue.
So yeah, it’s infuriating to consider that people are being manipulated like that, but in most cases it doesn’t really affect me, so my fury stays at a mild level.
It sounds like you think this shouldn’t be here, but do you think it’s not worth talking about or that we should all be more than mildly infuriated?
It’s definitely worth talking about and it makes me more than mildly infuriated because this affects me directly (as someone who administers anesthesia). But I think I’m just getting heavy political agenda vibes verses something that’s ACTUALLY mildly infuriating that other people can relate to. I’m being overly critical I’m sure. But for example - go to this community’s equivalent subreddit. There’s a post where someone bought diving goggles and the retailer placed price tag stickers on the LENSES of the goggles, leaving a gooey residue. That’s definitely mildly infuriating and fitting for the sub. I just feel this post is low effort political outrage.
Would you just shut up, and tell me how Annabel will heal her heartache?!?!
I walked into a doctor’s office. The guy referred me to someone by circling a number on a piece of paper then charged my insurance 250.
Spot the American.
They’re striking because they’re greedy? But to strike they’re losing money, so…
It’s the Daily Mail… What were you expecting. Even toilet paper has more worth
Toilet paper is actually priceless. It’s very important. I think you meant “used” toilet paper.
I would expect nothing else from the Daily Fail. That paper is a crock of shit.
Toilet paper is better, right?
But if healthcare is a human right, then they should not strike as that is violating the rights of others?
That’s the Daily Mail for you.
It’s a tabloid for the working class that actively promotes shitting on the working class. Unfortunately, they’re as popular now as they ever have been.
Waiting lists are always at an all time high.
It’s like every other instance of people demanding better pay the bosses always blame the workers.
Although in this case the bosses agree with the workers, it’s the utter idiots we have in government that are blame.
They aren’t idiots as much as they are greedy. They didn’t get into government leadership positions because they want to help people. They do it so they can take advantage of it and make money.
When they fuck up and people suffer, it isn’t an “accident”. It’s design because in the end they are making money off the people paying them off, etc.
Our big mistake is thinking these people are well intentioned, but forgiving their fuck ups because of “incompetence”. No, they are purposefully fucking you over to benefit themselves.
The bosses ARE the government. Never work for the public sector!
Wasn’t Brexit supposed to save them money so they can pour it back into the NHS?
Ah yes, another lie from the brexiteer brigade which is a gift for future generations to live with.
Our GDP per capita is now lower than Lithuania, just another brexit benefit.
You have no fucking clue what you’re talking about. If you think that life is bad in the UK, you’d die from starvation in Lithuania.
Yeah, right.
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Fuck the Daily Mail.
And The Sun along with them.
Absolute fucking tags that I wouldn’t wipe my ass with.
I feel the author also deserves some credit. So: Fuck Steve Barclay.
Written by, and for, cunts.
It’s not left vs right it’s wealthy vs everyone else
You just described the left part of left vs right.
So you’re trying to gaslight people into thinking that wealthy people only represent the left or the right? Rofl.
No. The true left is all about freedoms and rights - liberal democracy. What you call left is the same authorisation shit as right.
I disagree.
Left is more than wealth. Left is often reffered to socialism or liberalism. Either cases have at its core nothing to do with wealthy at all. Its not because your local politics have the left as wealthy fuckwads that this is everywhere.
That said, dont get me wrong, this is some terrible shit to say and the wealthy should piss off.
I get the spirit, but it’s the first time I hear doctor labeled as working class. World has changed…
“And it wouldn’t be surpising If there’d be another rising Said the man from the Daily Mail”
Not to detract from the discussion but does anyone know what’s handwritten at the top of the ‘paper’ above the word Daily? It looks like it says “Hi Hi Farm” or “4141 Farm” and it’s becoming that mystery that’s going to periodically pop in my head at night when I’m trying to sleep.
Amazing how we’ve gone from “clap for the NHS they’re amazing” to “you want fair compensation? psst!”
Also if the strike has only been going on for a little while then how does the Daily Mail account for the fact that NHS quality has gone down every year of the decade long Tory rule.
Maybe it’s not the doctors that’s the problem… maybe it’s the politicians (including Labour since Wes Streeting is chomping at the bit to carve up the NHS and continue the Tory legacy)
Suoko@feddit.it 8 months ago
It makes you feel rich (and stupid) just like the elite