"Florida is a conservative Christian state"

Submitted ⁨⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Buttflapper@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world⁩

An actual quote I saw today posted on Twitter: “Florida is a conservative Christian state, and they voted against murdering unborn babies. The democratic process is complete. They can leave if they want to do that.” There’s a lot to unpack there. I also got into an argument with the guy who posted it, who claimed somehow that it’s not ok for Federal government to regulate Women, but if states wants to do it then it’s ok, and they should just leave to another state then. like… wow. America is a strange place

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WashedOver@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
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GrymEdm@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Conservatives want their women to be able to get abortions while also being able to tell everyone they oppose it. It’s a phenomenon called “the only moral abortion is my abortion”.

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- Pacmanlives@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I mean the “Only Moral Abortion is my Abortion “ The rich will just travel overseas for a clinic and spend a week somewhere on a beach for the rest of week sipping on cocktails, while the poor will just get poorer, sicker and hungrier
  
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Badeendje@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Any sane person needs to GTFO out of Florida anyway. The weather is only going to get more extreme and so are the christo fascists.

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- electric@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I’m just trying to finish my degree to leave. It’s a shame Miami is so unique because I can’t find any place with such diversity. Only comparable alternative I could find in the US was NYC.
  
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  - rustydomino@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Come to California. We have the best tacos and xlb.
    
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hperrin@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
57% If Floridians voted in favor of abortion rights.

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- Buttflapper@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  
  57% If Floridians voted in favor of abortion rights.
  
  One small correction: 57% of the people who voted, voted in favor. Florida has approximately 22 million people as of the last census. No: 4,547,767 (42.8%) Yes: 6,068,933 (57.2%)
  
  So, approximately 15.93 million people in Florida did not vote, meaning about 27.6% of people in Florida voted… Truly insane to see
  
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  - Boddhisatva@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I’m rapidly coming to the conclusion that people who cannot be bothered to vote shouldn’t really count.
    
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  - atrielienz@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    22million people who are eligible to vote? I want to know if that’s everyone who lives in Florida (man women, children, citizens, non-citizens etc), or just eligible voters.
    
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- spankmonkey@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  They voted for abortion rights at the state level, then voted in a Senator, two Representatives, and Trump into office so they can pass a national abortion ban.
  
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  - Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    In some other states yes, but the abortion protection in Florida failed to pass, leaving their 6-week (2 weeks from detectability) ban in place.
    
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Stern@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
That vote was like… 57% to 43% in favor of abortion, and only failed because it needed to hit 60%. Ironically the amendment that made that requirement possible didn’t pass with 60% of the vote.

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- Valmond@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  What is this weird 60% rule?
  
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  - Stern@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    axios.com/…/florida-60-percent-constitutional-ame…
    
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usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Most people actually voted in favor of the florida abortion ammendment. The threshold is just unusually higher (60%) than most states. It was close to 60% but just a little shy at around 57%

With a different national environment with just a bit higher dem turnout, it probably would’ve passed

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- TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Both abortion and weed should’ve passed, they had the majority.
  The case to put the 60% rule in place DIDNT EVEN GET 60% ON ITS VOTE
  
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  - Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Ironically enough to make the vote require 60%, in order to pass it only received 57%.
    
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  - Buttflapper@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I commented this elsewhere, but I’ll say it here too :)
    
    57% of the people who voted, voted in favor. Florida has approximately 22 million people as of the last census, with about 17.732 million over the age of 18. Here are the vote counts:
    
    No: 4,547,767 (42.8%) Yes: 6,068,933 (57.2%) This means about 7.115 million people in Florida did not vote, so approximately 40.1% of the adult population voted. Truly wild to see.
    
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GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
So we’ve been going on for a pretty long time about how Florida is basically largely going to get completely lmaoed by climate change, and trying to warn people moving there and so on.

But as time goes on, I’m thinking maybe it’s best if they suffer the consequences of their actions, and let the ocean have this one.

Refugees will of course not be accepted in accordance with the new regime policy either, and FEMA has been fully dissolved.

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- send_me_your_ink@lemmynsfw.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  The problem is not everyone who wants to can move. Picking up everything and moving to New England or the West Coast is not viable for people making minimum wage.
  
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  - DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    It’s more viable for renters than people who have to sell a house no one will buy but is too much of their net worth for them to feel like they can walk away from it.
    
    In practice, sure, the situation is actually similar but the homeowners won’t feel like it is and humans are mostly illogical.
    
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  - Mac@mander.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    There won’t be much to pick up after it’s destroyed by mother Gaia.
    
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  - loomi@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    They should have voted then, or if they did vote, vote a different way. America is going to get the government they deserve.
    
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- Veneroso@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Climate change is the term that the GOP came up with in focus groups before it was “less scary”.
  
  Call it what it is. Global warming.
  
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  - GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I think global warming as a term is not great, because it fails at communicating the end result of the overall average temperature increase, which is more chaotic weather on account of the increased energy present in the system. Sometimes this will mean temporary local reductions in temperature, and sometimes it will mean unusually cold years in places. Don’t give people the option to use ‘bUt iT’s cOlDeR tHiS yEAr sO hOw cAn gLoBaL wArMiNg bE rEaL’ as an easy argument.
    
    Climate change is the more accurate term, but I do prefer terms that more accurately communicate the severity of the situation, such as the climate crisis, for example.
    
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BigTrout75@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Why stop at abortion? Which Bible verse is that anyway? Let’s get to work and add more laws. How about the one for adultery? That’s a good one.

Leviticus 20:10 threatened that ‘the man that committeth adultery with another man’s wife … the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death’, while Deuteronomy 22:22 thundered, if a man be found lying with a woman married to an husband, then both of them shall die

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- fern@lemmy.autism.place ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  No dont go after my polycule too :(
  
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RBWells@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Abortion protection was proposed as a constitutional amendment because the backwards -ass gerrymandered legislature here is much more conservative than the population. A majority of us voted for freedom of choice even though the amendment on the ballot had bold text added by the governor, including the dubious claim that it would “increase the number of abortions performed in the state”. They only added these annotations to the two amendments DeSantis opposed.

I was born here, my kids were born here, I am progressive, my kids are progressive, all y’all dehumanizing us, why? We are just people, like you!

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Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I think the tiniest sliver of silver lining is that republicans seem to want states to decide on a whole slew of things, meaning that any anti-trans legislation likely won’t mean I need to leave the country, only sell my house and move to another state and pray I can find a job there.

This timeline sucks.

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- XeroxCool@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  No, they want states to decide on issues they’re losing federally but still let the fed decide things if they’re winning. There is no consistency, just temporary workarounds.
  
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TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Hi am Floridan. Yes I want to leave but can’t because i either have to go to uni in Florida, or be in debt.

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- Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Not to pressure you to leave if it’s not feasible for you (I’ve so been there), but in case you haven’t heard of it: the Academic Common Market program, run by the Southern Regional Education Board, may be an avenue to get out of Florida while staying in college.
  
  Hang in there.
  
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  - electric@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Pretty neat that exists for people who want to study something niche.
    
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Paraponera_clavata@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Get off twitter tho…

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- ContrarianTrail@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  And go where? Get off twitter and come to Lemmy to get dogpiled for not having views that perfectly align with ours.
  
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- Buttflapper@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  People can share tweets virtually anywhere by screenshotting it and reposting it on Facebook, reddit, etc. I saw it on Facebook and clicked it.
  
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  - Aedis@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    That… Somehow makes it even worse.
    
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Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Soooo the 58% of Floridians who voted for banning anti abortion laws also want Fl to be a Christian state?

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bradorsomething@ttrpg.network ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
These are hard times, and more are coming. And I don’t exactly remember the quote, but it’s along the lines of:

“When a run-away team of horses is headed off a cliff, the driver can sometime be seen encouraging them on, presumably, since he knows he cannot stop them, he at least feels some sense of control over the situation.”

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- Buttflapper@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Wow, that is metal as fuck dude… what a terrifying image that provides…🫣
  
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