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• RegalPotoo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I’d be ok with anonymous donations if they were truly anonymous both publicly and to the management of the institution receiving the money.

  Maybe this is something that the government could facilitate - pool these resources, then help distribute them where they are needed. Almost like how taxes work.

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  • SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    If anyone is aware of the source, it’s not anonymous, it’s undisclosed.

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    • MalReynolds@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Agreed, literal anonymous, way cool. Undisclosed, much less so.

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    • abbadon420@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The tweet speaks of “dark money”. I like that term better. It feels worse

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    • Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I work for a nonprofit and “anonymous donor” definitely means “c-suite folks know who it came from”

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  • norimee@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    This exactly. If you really want to stay anonymous then use a middleman and do it anonymous to the recipient as well.

    Everyone involved with the institution, students, parents who pay tuition, teachers, authorities who financially support the institution (…) have a right to know in whose pocket they are.

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    • rain_worl@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      do like onion routing, use two middlemen, i guess you’d literally use locks, sorta like that encryption analogy

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  • hate2bme@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Just like they do social security? The government is terrible at the distribution of money.

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    • Reddfugee42@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Elaborate?

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    • RegalPotoo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      They seem to be pretty good at making sure the military has all the finding they need

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    • vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The program that lifted millions of seniors out of poverty. That money.

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• twice_twotimes@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Important additional context that didn’t make it into this tweet, this donation was explicitly directed toward promoting “free inquiry and expression” at UChicago. Decades ago that was a legit strength of UChicago that really was pretty ideologically neutral, and that history gives them a phenomenal tool for spinning dog whistles and ultra conservative policies as part of “the life of the mind.”

  Here’s the announcement email from the University’s president yesterday.

  Worth noting that Eman Abdelhadi is faculty at UChicago, speaking out against her own employer alongside hundreds of other faculty. Eman is particularly adept at making sure every time they use “free inquiry and expression” as a conservative dog whistle it gets thrown back in their faces. (She’s also just kind of a badass.)

  UChicago admin work very hard to promote this image of the school as a bastion for “sane conservatives” by taking stances diametrically opposed to the what the students and faculty actually stand behind. The real UChicago is anti-genocide, pro-union, and knows that promoting free speech doesn’t mean tolerating hate speech.

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  • MonkeMischief@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Ah, so basically “The Department of Just Asking Questions.” 🤢

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    • TassieTosser@aussie.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      JAQing off.

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  • A7thStone@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I only have two words “Chicago Boys”. This shit has been going on there for a long time.

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    • twice_twotimes@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Oh 100% absolutely. I mean the gentrification of Hyde Park and Woodlawn with active, deliberate harm to the black community started at the University’s inception in 1898 (1895? 92? They keep changing the “established in” date on all their merch and propaganda, it’s hard to keep up) and continues to this day with no signs of slowing.

      I also should have specified that if we’re talking about student/faculty attitudes the “real” UChicago community does not or at least should include Booth and the psychopathic econ department. That’s where all the money comes from (because it’s evil) but everyone except admin hates them. Also I’m pretty sure they would argue “community” means communism and community of any kind should be abolished in favor of a social free market or some shit, whatever garbage they are peddling these days.

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  • jabathekek@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Thanks for the context. I know this is a meme community but I wish some more context was posted a long with it.

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• RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Simpsons did it!

  “Well, frankly, test scores like Larry’s would call for a very generous contribution. For example, a score of 400 would require a donation of new football uniforms, 300, a new dormitory, and in Larry’s case, we would need an international airport.”

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• someguy3@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Um, if it’s anonymous can they influence anything?

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  • hannesh93@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Anonymous usually means that they don’t want their name to show up publicly.

    There’s almost certainly knowledge of who that money is coming from at least with a couple of persons that received the funds.

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    • bobs_monkey@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      More like they don’t want the wider public to know it was them that donated. Some folks that are extremely wealthy go to great lengths to keep their names out of people’s minds and stay out of the public eye as a matter of personal security.

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  • deegeese@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The university knows who’s paying its bills and has agreed to keep it a secret.

    A truly anonymous donation should be double-blind to the donor AND recipient. If you don’t want credit, don’t expect influence either.

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    • Zagorath@aussie.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I don’t know what you mean by

      double-blind to the donor AND recipient

      But to me that phrase kinda implies that the donor doesn’t know who they donated to. Which…no. It should be blind to the recipient. Entirely blind.

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• memfree@beehaw.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It sounds like the donor had requirements. From The Tribune:

  The University of Chicago has received a $100 million gift from an anonymous donor to support free expression, marking what may be the largest-ever single donation to support such values in higher education, the university announced Thursday.

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  Discussions surrounding the donation have been ongoing for over a year, according to a university spokesperson.

  From …suntimes.com/…/university-chicago-donation-free-… :

  The gift was ridiculed by advocates involved in the encampment that highlighted abuses against Palestinians in the Israel-Hamas War and torn down by the university in the spring.

  “It’s truly a slap in the face,” said Yousseff Hasweh, a U of C grad who’s diploma was withheld by the university for two months, allegedly for his involvement in the protest.

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• PriorityMotif@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  University of Chicago is the home of the federalist society.

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  • logos@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    And the home of the Chicago school of economics.

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    • PriorityMotif@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      They won’t change, but they can amplify it.

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  • psmgx@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yeah was gonna say the same. U of C has some pretty balls-out political and economic priorities

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• Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Do you think the donation will somehow make the University of Chicago more conservative?

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  • eskimofry@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Just hold out the finger in the air for when there is a change in the intensity of propaganda

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• jabathekek@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Not publicly supported enough though lol. *leers at 40k of student debt

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  • fossilesque@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Rookie numbers.

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    • jabathekek@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Gotta pump them up… but they’re a function of time?!

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• hannesh93@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Should it? I get that political parties should report donors - but for nonprofits and other institutions I feel it’s not that necessary since they are directly investing that money in projects (that the donor may choose - but if that’s not the case then that investment isn’t happening) - for political parties and politicians it can be seen as a bribe as the things they invest in usually don’t have a direct return of investment.

  And there should be rules and regulations making sure that that donation is not ending up in some kind of contract for the company of the donor but that whatever that investment is funding has a transparent process

  Where do we draw the kind? Should donors to libraries be made public even if that person wants to remain anonymous but fund an expansion? Should donors to non-profits be made public?

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• SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Dafuq? If it’s anonymous, how is it exerting influence?

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  • Entheon@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s only anonymous to the public. I imagine the donor and the university are in frequent direct contact.

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    • SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Are they, or is it just your imagination?

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  • Coldcell@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Is it hard to conceive of agreeing to something behind closed doors and donating anonymously to hide the tracks?

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    • SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Is it hard to suggest that in a less condescending manner?

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  • solsangraal@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    “i’ll give you 100 million dollars on the condition that $X of it be spent on ______” is how it’s exerting influence

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    • SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      But if it’s actually anonymous, how is that communicated?

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• GBU_28@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Agree in general. Ez fix: strings attached that it’s anonymous and unattached. A third party manages the exchange, and everyone is under oath. A step in the right direction at least

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• Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  So if I donate to someone it’s “dark money”?

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  • Comment105@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    If it’s millions of dollars and done anonymously in a culture of prominent bribery with little to no “no strings attached” charity at that scale, it seems reasonable to suspect foul play and call it “dark money”.

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